Waiting2goback
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Hi! I'm Christine - brand new to this forum but I'm going to jump on in. I've read a lot of this thread - what a wealth of information! I'm hoping to get registered for the Glass Slipper Challenge in 2017 which will be my first Disney race. I ran my first half marathon last October after a couple of injuries causing me to defer my June race. This year I've run 3 halfs so far and have a couple more planned.
Is there a place that's appropriate to ask training questions? I could use some help from more experienced runners. I got the Hansons Half Marathon book after reading about it here. Their plan is 18 weeks and I have 11 and 14 weeks before my fall half marathons, so I would have to tweak the plan somehow to use it.
So me for two weeks before I shut it down. HA.
It was me last summer with my PF and from January to May this year before I finally went to the doctor. I guess it even applies now as I prepare for a race tomorrow.![]()
Ah-ha... Yup, had an adductor strain at one point, but mild, thankfully. My sister actually had the real deal a couple years ago that knocked her off the tennis court for a good while. Her's was the type that was very high in the hip, and from what I understand, just requires rest. If it's a full on pull, like hers, you just have to wait for the tissues to reconnect, I hate to say. You may already know this, but you can test it by squeezing a soccer or exercise ball between your knees. Depending on how much effort you put in before it hurts tells you how bad it is. Here's a cheesy little video on the test.
For me, I gently (and carefully) strengthened the adductors by first squeezing the exercise ball between my knees, stopping at the first sign of pain in the effort. After a while, I was able to add the ole' exercise-band-on-the-ankle adductor pull. I also foam rolled it... gently! No stretching. Oh, and cold/hot/cold/etc for a while each day until it cleared up, which it mercifully did right before Dark Side, but it did reduce my last two weeks of training. It's a group of muscles that doesn't get a lot of attention, but greatly benefits from some strength work, and is really easy to do. Just don't go after it until you can do it without the pain. I hope this has helped, if I wasn't already telling you stuff you didn't know!
This year may be the first year since the 2014 Boston Marathon that a BQ could simply be enough to get you in. Where as it was around BQ-2min almost two years ago.
Ran a 13.1 mile training run today - my longest run since my injury. It was 10 degrees cooler today than last week, which allowed me to run faster with a lower heart rate. I ran 15 seconds/mile faster and my heart rate was 135 BPM (stayed below 130 for the first 8 miles). The run felt amazing, and I feel great.
Amazing what a difference a cool morning can make.![]()
But I would say attempt to incorporate that first half INTO your current training plan (line it up in place of a long run of similar length), and when it comes time to race it, take that one a little easier, and instead of racing for time, use it to focus on avoiding the typical race-day mistakes (starting too fast, eating the wrong thing before, etc).
My question to you is, you have run 3 half's this year already, do you need a full 18 week plan anyway? Aren't you most likely already in decent shape? Give us some more info and you will most likely get plenty of feedback.
Hi! I'm Christine - brand new to this forum but I'm going to jump on in. I've read a lot of this thread - what a wealth of information! I'm hoping to get registered for the Glass Slipper Challenge in 2017 which will be my first Disney race. I ran my first half marathon last October after a couple of injuries causing me to defer my June race. This year I've run 3 halfs so far and have a couple more planned.
Is there a place that's appropriate to ask training questions? I could use some help from more experienced runners. I got the Hansons Half Marathon book after reading about it here. Their plan is 18 weeks and I have 11 and 14 weeks before my fall half marathons, so I would have to tweak the plan somehow to use it.
1) What kind of training have you been doing lately? Days per week, pace, duration of runs, daily mileage, weekly mileage, etc.
2) What is a recent half-marathon result that you feel best represents your current fitness level?
3) What is your motivation for running?
4) Which of the two halfs is your "A" race? Which is the race you want to give your best effort?
1) Leading up to the races - 4 days a week, pace typically 11:10-11:45, daily miles 4/4/3/long (6-12), weekly miles 16-21
I took the week after the last race off, then was on vacation for 2 weeks (got in 3 shorter runs each week). Found a 5k while on vacation(6/18) and finished in 28:36 - a post-40 and 4 kids PR. I've never done any speed training or tempo runs. I've just tried to get the miles in, building up the long run a mile a week with some dropback weeks.
2) Half marathon on 6/5 - 2:21:18 - the best of the 3 this year
3) Overall, better health and fitness. The weight has just kept creeping up with kids and age. I figured I'd better do something to help improve my health. I started Couch to 5k in 2014, then continued with the "to 10k" app, finishing that in 2/15. The sad thing is I'm 12 pounds heavier now than I was then.Back then I couldn't run for 2.5 hours though. Now it's to see how far I can go, how much better can I get. I feel good when I run regularly.
4) I'd say the first since it's supposed to be a flat & fast course. The second is what I ran last year, and while there aren't any killer hills it definitely isn't flat. I'd like to see what I can do after some solid training and the first would be a great chance for a nice PR.
Background - When I picked up my progressive series medal (5k/10k/half) after finishing my first half last year I saw others picking up running jackets for completing the triple half challenge. I knew what my next goal was - 2016 halfs in April, May, and October. For my first half this year (4/3) my training slipped off during the 3 weeks before the race. I don't remember why I was in such a funk, but I only did 2 runs a week after having a regular, steady progression to that point. I got a reprieve, because that race was actually postponed due to an unexpected snowstorm and high winds with gusts over 75mph. Rescheduled for 4/24, which was only 3 weeks before the second half (originally 6 weeks apart). Most of my training prior to this race was done on a treadmill. I decided to try to run with a pace group - my choice being 2:15 or 2:30. My first half was 2:21:23, so I decided to go with the 2:15. There were hills, lots of hills. I was able to hang on until almost mile 7 and then let the pace group pull away. By mile 8 I was taking a lot of walk breaks - I just gave up but kept moving. A disappointing 2:33:50 finish.
Instead of that kicking me into gear, I only managed 5 runs in the 3 weeks leading up to my second half (5/15). I drove that course the night before - no major hills, but the second half had rolling hills. Went out with the 2:30 pace group this time thinking I could try to pick up the pace later in the race if I was feeling good. Turns out the pacer went out at a 10:48 pace instead of 11:27. I actually felt good through mile 7, but was feeling it by mile 10 and started taking some short walk breaks. Not nearly as bad as the last half and I wasn't nearly as discouraged. Finished in 2:26:38 - and improvement, but still not as good as my first half.
I decided to throw in a third half 3 weeks later (6/5) because I felt better about my second performance but still needed to redeem myself. I did not want to wait until fall for my next half. Life was very hectic during those 3 weeks and training was sporadic. Weather predictions the day before the race? Severe thunderstorms all morning. We were notified the race may be called before or during, but they were going to try to run as scheduled. Race morning the storms had been pushed off and we only had steady rain. Back to the 2:15 pace group (yes, there is a lesson to be learned here). The first mile was very narrow and congested, so when it cleared the pacers saw we were behind (10:44 instead of 10:17) and picked up the pace. The first 6 miles averaged a 10 minute pace - definitely faster than I should have been going and I started slowing down. Minor walk breaks after mile 9 and my pace just slowed down. Time - 2:21:18 - a 5 second PR.
I thought it would help me to run with a pace group because I wasn't confident I could keep a steady pace myself. The trouble is I should have been right in the middle of those groups and wrongly chose optimism and dreams twice instead of the reality of my training. I also didn't drop back the two times that I realized the pacers were significantly quicker than what they should have been. I felt okay then, so why slow down? Yeah, it doesn't work. Sometimes it takes awhile for the lesson to sink in.
This got very long...time to turn in so I can run tomorrow.
I know you can never say never, but I'd like to say never again for me.
Ran a 13.1 mile training run today - my longest run since my injury. It was 10 degrees cooler today than last week, which allowed me to run faster with a lower heart rate. I ran 15 seconds/mile faster and my heart rate was 135 BPM (stayed below 130 for the first 8 miles). The run felt amazing, and I feel great.
Amazing what a difference a cool morning can make.![]()
@Waiting2goback hopefully to DC!!
And I'll be there for dopey 2018!! I promised my boyfriend and marathon weekend is the reason we met in the first place. I plan on going to as many going forward as I can!
1) Leading up to the races - 4 days a week, pace typically 11:10-11:45, daily miles 4/4/3/long (6-12), weekly miles 16-21
I took the week after the last race off, then was on vacation for 2 weeks (got in 3 shorter runs each week). Found a 5k while on vacation(6/18) and finished in 28:36 - a post-40 and 4 kids PR. I've never done any speed training or tempo runs. I've just tried to get the miles in, building up the long run a mile a week with some dropback weeks.
2) Half marathon on 6/5 - 2:21:18 - the best of the 3 this year
3) Overall, better health and fitness. The weight has just kept creeping up with kids and age. I figured I'd better do something to help improve my health. I started Couch to 5k in 2014, then continued with the "to 10k" app, finishing that in 2/15. The sad thing is I'm 12 pounds heavier now than I was then.Back then I couldn't run for 2.5 hours though. Now it's to see how far I can go, how much better can I get. I feel good when I run regularly.
4) I'd say the first since it's supposed to be a flat & fast course. The second is what I ran last year, and while there aren't any killer hills it definitely isn't flat. I'd like to see what I can do after some solid training and the first would be a great chance for a nice PR.
Background - When I picked up my progressive series medal (5k/10k/half) after finishing my first half last year I saw others picking up running jackets for completing the triple half challenge. I knew what my next goal was - 2016 halfs in April, May, and October. For my first half this year (4/3) my training slipped off during the 3 weeks before the race. I don't remember why I was in such a funk, but I only did 2 runs a week after having a regular, steady progression to that point. I got a reprieve, because that race was actually postponed due to an unexpected snowstorm and high winds with gusts over 75mph. Rescheduled for 4/24, which was only 3 weeks before the second half (originally 6 weeks apart). Most of my training prior to this race was done on a treadmill. I decided to try to run with a pace group - my choice being 2:15 or 2:30. My first half was 2:21:23, so I decided to go with the 2:15. There were hills, lots of hills. I was able to hang on until almost mile 7 and then let the pace group pull away. By mile 8 I was taking a lot of walk breaks - I just gave up but kept moving. A disappointing 2:33:50 finish.
Instead of that kicking me into gear, I only managed 5 runs in the 3 weeks leading up to my second half (5/15). I drove that course the night before - no major hills, but the second half had rolling hills. Went out with the 2:30 pace group this time thinking I could try to pick up the pace later in the race if I was feeling good. Turns out the pacer went out at a 10:48 pace instead of 11:27. I actually felt good through mile 7, but was feeling it by mile 10 and started taking some short walk breaks. Not nearly as bad as the last half and I wasn't nearly as discouraged. Finished in 2:26:38 - and improvement, but still not as good as my first half.
I decided to throw in a third half 3 weeks later (6/5) because I felt better about my second performance but still needed to redeem myself. I did not want to wait until fall for my next half. Life was very hectic during those 3 weeks and training was sporadic. Weather predictions the day before the race? Severe thunderstorms all morning. We were notified the race may be called before or during, but they were going to try to run as scheduled. Race morning the storms had been pushed off and we only had steady rain. Back to the 2:15 pace group (yes, there is a lesson to be learned here). The first mile was very narrow and congested, so when it cleared the pacers saw we were behind (10:44 instead of 10:17) and picked up the pace. The first 6 miles averaged a 10 minute pace - definitely faster than I should have been going and I started slowing down. Minor walk breaks after mile 9 and my pace just slowed down. Time - 2:21:18 - a 5 second PR.
I thought it would help me to run with a pace group because I wasn't confident I could keep a steady pace myself. The trouble is I should have been right in the middle of those groups and wrongly chose optimism and dreams twice instead of the reality of my training. I also didn't drop back the two times that I realized the pacers were significantly quicker than what they should have been. I felt okay then, so why slow down? Yeah, it doesn't work. Sometimes it takes awhile for the lesson to sink in.
This got very long...time to turn in so I can run tomorrow.
So, ran the Gold Coast half marathon on the weekend here in Australia.
It was a lovely morning, nice and cool and clear. The thousands of runners crammed into the tram to the start line at 5am were freaking out the few drunks stumbling home after a big night out!
The first 17km were amazing. I was running better than planned. I was keeping a really consistent pace, and was keeping my 5k pace, which was amazing. My breathing and my heart rate were also right where I wanted them to be. I realised I was on track for a 20 minute PB at this point!Then, I noticed that I was starting to get some pain in my knee, and I started getting slower and slower as it became more brutal with every step. By the time I got to the finish line I was in agony and literally limped over. After the race as I went through the chute I really thought the knee would just give way. I eroded a lot of the good time work I did early on - but still managed a 6 minute PB with a finish time of 2:28.
I've subsequently worked out the problem is the dreaded IT Band. I'm still in a lot of pain in my knee today when trying to do things like walk down the stairs (I live in a three story townhouse!!!), but I am hoping with some rest and treatment things will get better.
Despite being on the other side of the world, I spotted a pair of runDisney New Balance Goofy shoes during the race, and at one point a lady in front had a Star Wars half shirt tied around her waist - made me feel like you were all there cheering me on
Also - biggest achievement of the morning - I didn't take a single walk break! I was prepared to, but half marathon number 5 was 100% running. Super proud of myself and the training I have put in.
I have a pic of the medal on Instagram if anyone is interested - @belindarae15