The Running Thread - 2016

[Waiting2goback]

Goofy and the Marathon were the only ones that didn't sell out for early registration, so odds are it won't sell too quickly. Are you changing your mind???

Months for Goofy and full to sell out, as I recall, too. I know I switched from half to full in late May.

I know the full didn't sell out until November. But I can't remember if Goofy was still available when I signed up last summer or not.

I'm not changing my mind. I have always wanted to do Goofy. I just don't know if I should do Goofy and stay cheap this year and then do Dopey and stay cheap next year or if I should skip this year and stay at a nicer hotel next year for Dopey. That's my biggest dilema.

 

[Waiting2goback]

Can I get some advice/input on my training schedule? I am following the JG Marathon schedule and just adjusted the dates for my 1st full marathon on Sept. 5th. This is what the next few weeks are supposed to look like:
5/15 Half Marathon
5/21 4 miles
5/28 15 miles
6/5 11.8 (Navy 10 Nautical miles)
6/17 17 miles
6/18 5 miles
6/25 6 miles
7/2 20 miles

Well I just got a good deal on a plane ticket to visit my daughter on Memorial Day weekend and seriously doubt I can get in a 15 mile run. I'm there 3 days and we are driving up to Denver to the Giants/Rockies games. Could possibly get in 10-12 miles, but then my schedule looks like this:

5/15 Half Marathon
5/21 15 miles
5/28 10-12 miles
6/5 11.8 (Navy 10 Nautical Miler)
6/17 17 miles
6/18 5 miles
6/25 6 miles
7/2 20 miles

Seems like a lot of long mile weekends with no step back weekends. Can someone chime in with any adjustments I should make? I really don't want to injure myself by trying to do to many miles too soon. Any advice would be appreciated!

I don't understand why your 20 mile run is in early July for a September race. It should be in early August. If you move that out then you have a month to get in a few more long runs and spread them out. I'm on my phone right now so I can't go into great detail but does that make sense or did I read something wrong?

 

[Dis5150]

Are you racing the half marathon and/or Navy 10 NM? If you are racing both, then I would probably just reduce the 15 miler to the 10-12 that you think you can get in and leave everything else the same. If you are going to treat the races as easy long runs, then I would probably just switch the 5/21 4 miles with the 5/28 15 miles, so that you only run 4 miles when you are with you daughter.

I will be racing the half and taking the Navy 10 NM easy. I am hoping for a good POT for Marathon weekend.

 

[opusone]

I will be racing the half and taking the Navy 10 NM easy. I am hoping for a good POT for Marathon weekend.

In that case, I think you keep the 4 miles on 5/21 as part of recovery from the half, then just reduce the 15 to 10-12, or if you really want to get the 15 in, is there anyway you could do it the day before you leave for your daughter's (or the day after you return)? I know weekday long runs can be problematic scheduling-wise, but I have had success every once in a while just waking up really, really early or doing the run after work. Just a thought.

 

[DIS-OH]

QOTD: Injuries happen from time to time. What was your last injury and what was the last problem? How long did it take to recover from it?

ATTQOTD: I'm backwards on this...in 2004, I had a complete rupture of the Achilles' tendon. It was misdiagnosed and I did not have surgery to repair it until 4 months after the injury. (It was not a running injury; I missed a step while going down a set of stairs.)

In 2009, my oldest daughter talked me into running the 2010 PHM. I was a couch potato at that time.

So...5 years after a major injury, I became a runner!

 

[keahgirl8]

QOTD: Injuries happen from time to time. What was your last injury and what was the last problem? How long did it take to recover from it?

It was a hip injury after Princess 2015. I'm still recovering from it.

QOTTD: I have a weird running related injury now. I've had pain in my lower leg since February. Took three weeks off, didn't help. Started seeing a physical therapist and she says it's a tight tendon constricting a muscle. She said I couldn't make it worse continuing to train for my half on May 1 but it's been painful, especially the first mile or two.

Does the pain increase when you're running?

 

[cavepig]

Oh wait silly me, my latest injury is a terribly stiff crick & painful neck I got from sleeping wrong a few nights ago! I never realized how much your neck moves when you run till now, had to take some days of just walking or it was too bouncy & painful & today I felt like C3-PO turning if I heard something as I attempted to run somewhat normal. I have a talent (and I'm sure many others do to) of hurting myself not while running but just living, I'm sure some of you get this!

 

[roxymama]

Oh wait silly me, my latest injury is a terribly stiff crick & painful neck I got from sleeping wrong a few nights ago! I never realized how much your neck moves when you run till now, had to take some days of just walking or it was too bouncy & painful & today I felt like C3-PO turning if I heard something as I attempted to run somewhat normal. I have a talent (and I'm sure many others do to) of hurting myself not while running but just living, I'm sure some of you get this!

I walk into a lot of walls and cabinets and branches...so I totally get it. And I may be the queen of the "reaching in the seat behind me in the car and straining my neck/back/arm"

 

[LSUlakes]

So this week is moving week for the family. The packing and soon to be moving is/going to be very stressful. A lot of moving parts all coming down to getting done in a 24 hour window. Running shall be my escape, just hope I have enough energy to get some miles in during the weekend.

Can I get some advice/input on my training schedule? I am following the JG Marathon schedule and just adjusted the dates for my 1st full marathon on Sept. 5th. This is what the next few weeks are supposed to look like:
5/15 Half Marathon
5/21 4 miles
5/28 15 miles
6/5 11.8 (Navy 10 Nautical miles)
6/17 17 miles
6/18 5 miles
6/25 6 miles
7/2 20 miles

Well I just got a good deal on a plane ticket to visit my daughter on Memorial Day weekend and seriously doubt I can get in a 15 mile run. I'm there 3 days and we are driving up to Denver to the Giants/Rockies games. Could possibly get in 10-12 miles, but then my schedule looks like this:

5/15 Half Marathon
5/21 15 miles
5/28 10-12 miles
6/5 11.8 (Navy 10 Nautical Miler)
6/17 17 miles
6/18 5 miles
6/25 6 miles
7/2 20 miles

Seems like a lot of long mile weekends with no step back weekends. Can someone chime in with any adjustments I should make? I really don't want to injure myself by trying to do to many miles too soon. Any advice would be appreciated!

That's an interesting situation you have on your hands. I know very little about the plan you are following, but I find it odd that you have two recovery weeks (long runs) back to back. I would go as follows:
Half - Race hard
10-12 easy
15 miles
Navy 10 miler (See you there!)
5 miles
17 miles
6 miles
20 miles

If you have to keep those distances. Again I am not familiar with the program you are following, so I don't know what kind of miles are being put in during the week and at what intensity. Good luck.

 

[Dis5150]

I don't understand why your 20 mile run is in early July for a September race. It should be in early August. If you move that out then you have a month to get in a few more long runs and spread them out. I'm on my phone right now so I can't go into great detail but does that make sense or did I read something wrong?

I don't know either? It is the Jeff Galloway Beginner Marathon training schedule. In August I will have 23 miles and 26 miles with 2 step back weeks between each, with my marathon on Sept 5th.

 

[Dis5150]

That's an interesting situation you have on your hands. I know very little about the plan you are following, but I find it odd that you have two recovery weeks (long runs) back to back. I would go as follows:
Half - Race hard
10-12 easy
15 miles
Navy 10 miler (See you there!)
5 miles
17 miles
6 miles
20 miles

If you have to keep those distances. Again I am not familiar with the program you are following, so I don't know what kind of miles are being put in during the week and at what intensity. Good luck.

I just got the plan off of last years Jeff Galloway Beginner Marathon training plan on runDisney site. I changed the marathon date to my sept race and went backwards changing the dates. And that's what it says to do. I haven't ever had 2 step back weeks between my long runs before. I don't know how important it is since this is my first time training for a marathon. This is my dilemma lol.

 

[Miranda]

I think a lot of marathon plans only go out to 20-22.

I thought the Galloway half plans went kind of long, especially the "for speed" one that had you go up to 17 in training for a half, but also the Tink plan last year had long runs of 13 and 14 with 2 step back weeks in between. I didn't really like having the double step back weeks and I was glad that the W&D plan didn't have them. Although I have no idea why 2 plans in the same year were different.

 

[Dis5150]

In that case, I think you keep the 4 miles on 5/21 as part of recovery from the half, then just reduce the 15 to 10-12, or if you really want to get the 15 in, is there anyway you could do it the day before you leave for your daughter's (or the day after you return)? I know weekday long runs can be problematic scheduling-wise, but I have had success every once in a while just waking up really, really early or doing the run after work. Just a thought.

Maybe after I get back. I think at my (slow) pace it will take me 3 1/2 to 4 hours to do 15 miles. That is hard to get in after or before work lol. I'm okay with just doing the 10-12, just didn't know if that would be long enough to allow me to do a 17 miler the next long run.

 

[Waiting2goback]

I don't know either? It is the Jeff Galloway Beginner Marathon training schedule. In August I will have 23 miles and 26 miles with 2 step back weeks between each, with my marathon on Sept 5th.

I think a lot of marathon plans only go out to 20-22.

I thought the Galloway half plans went kind of long, especially the "for speed" one that had you go up to 17 in training for a half, but also the Tink plan last year had long runs of 13 and 14 with 2 step back weeks in between. I didn't really like having the double step back weeks and I was glad that the W&D plan didn't have them. Although I have no idea why 2 plans in the same year were different.

This is why I was confused. I thought the 20 miler would have been the last long run. I personally don't like Jeff's marathon plans (I never really look at his other plans). I think to run 3 days a week, and toward the end of the plan to run 2 of those days for only 30 minutes and the third day to jump up to 18+ miles for a long run is awful. If your pace is 13:00/mile, for example, then you are running just over 2 miles on those two weekday runs and then you jump to 26 miles for your last long run? I have also heard Jeff say on many podcasts that there is no need to get above 22 miles for a longest long run before a marathon so to have you get up to 26 miles for the training plan is also confusing.

What made you pick the Galloway plan?

I think a plan like this, and there are many to choose from, is a better option. Not sure if anyone else has an opinion.

http://www.halhigdon.com/training/51137/Marathon-Novice-1-Training-Program

 

[gjramsey]

ATTQOTD: Dealing with a strained groin right now, and have not run for a week. I am going to take at least one more, and possibly two before trying to run again. Luckily, I have entered my off-season, and nothing planned until the fall.

I have tweaked my hammy a couple of times, and both times it was doing 800 repeats.

 

[Slogger]

I'm in for Chicago in October too.

Yay You! I've heard it's awesome.

I have always wanted to do Goofy. I just don't know if I should do Goofy and stay cheap this year and then do Dopey and stay cheap next year or if I should skip this year and stay at a nicer hotel next year for Dopey. That's my biggest dilema.

Not sure about 2017 but you should definitely plan on Dopey 2018. All the cool kids will be there!

 

[camaker]

This is why I was confused. I thought the 20 miler would have been the last long run. I personally don't like Jeff's marathon plans (I never really look at his other plans). I think to run 3 days a week, and toward the end of the plan to run 2 of those days for only 30 minutes and the third day to jump up to 18+ miles for a long run is awful. If your pace is 13:00/mile, for example, then you are running just over 2 miles on those two weekday runs and then you jump to 26 miles for your last long run? I have also heard Jeff say on many podcasts that there is no need to get above 22 miles for a longest long run before a marathon so to have you get up to 26 miles for the training plan is also confusing.

What made you pick the Galloway plan?

I think a plan like this, and there are many to choose from, is a better option. Not sure if anyone else has an opinion.

http://www.halhigdon.com/training/51137/Marathon-Novice-1-Training-Program

I have had great success using one of Higdon's half marathon plans and plan on using the Novice 1 marathon plan to get ready for my November race.

 

[disneydaydreamer33]

Oh wait silly me, my latest injury is a terribly stiff crick & painful neck I got from sleeping wrong a few nights ago! I never realized how much your neck moves when you run till now, had to take some days of just walking or it was too bouncy & painful & today I felt like C3-PO turning if I heard something as I attempted to run somewhat normal. I have a talent (and I'm sure many others do to) of hurting myself not while running but just living, I'm sure some of you get this!

Ugh, I do this once or twice a year and it is so frustrating- and painful! Mine usually last about a week.

I think a lot of marathon plans only go out to 20-22.

I thought the Galloway half plans went kind of long, especially the "for speed" one that had you go up to 17 in training for a half, but also the Tink plan last year had long runs of 13 and 14 with 2 step back weeks in between. I didn't really like having the double step back weeks and I was glad that the W&D plan didn't have them. Although I have no idea why 2 plans in the same year were different.

Yeah the Galloway plan for speed I did for Princess was quite weird. I only went as far as 15, but I did think it was kind of odd for a 13.1 mile race. And I've decided for training purposes, I really need to run 4 times a week, not just three.

 

[dis_or_dat]

ATTQOTD: My worst running injury was symphysis pubis dysfunction somewhere in my early-mid 2nd trimester. It was so painful I couldn't even put on my pants or walk up stairs. Couldn't run for almost 6 months. My last injury is probably the mild runners knee I'm dealing with right now.

 

[keahgirl8]

Ugh, I do this once or twice a year and it is so frustrating- and painful! Mine usually last about a week.

Yeah the Galloway plan for speed I did for Princess was quite weird. I only went as far as 15, but I did think it was kind of odd for a 13.1 mile race. And I've decided for training purposes, I really need to run 4 times a week, not just three.

I personally like going past 13.1. It makes me feel more comfortable knowing that I can go even farther than the race distance.