The Running Thread - 2016

ATTQOTD: Not going to vote today. But that is because I am German. Next time I will get to vote won't be until September 2017. And then I will vote! However, since that will be on a Sunday, no problem adjusting my running plans then.
 
I ended up finishing Sunday in 1:48:36. It was an awesome day. Just 41 seconds off of my half PR and I really had no goal other than to enjoy the race. I ran my 2nd marathon just 4 weeks prior to this half (I'd signed up for this half a full year ago), so wasn't sure if I had fully recovered, etc. My limited training runs since the marathon were nothing special and I certainly didn't feel like I had much speed in me. So I really approached this half almost like a training run. The first half of the course is hilly and then it's flat. Last year I went out too fast and was miserable for the last 6 miles. This year I planned to go out slow and then once I got to the flat part I figured I'd just go with whatever I was feeling.

I found the 152/345 pacer (this race is a half and a full... which is just 2 loops of the half). I asked him if he was planning to run just even splits or even effort because of the hills. He told me he had never run the course, so didn't really know much about it. So I was briefly concerned, but then I quickly found out he had been a pacer at the Chicago marathon that I had just run and so I figured he must be able to run whatever pace he needs to. I'd never run with a pacer before for even a minute, and had barely noticed even noticed pacers in prior races past the corrals. Although I didn't really want to start as fast as his pace, the race was small enough that I figured I could easily keep an eye on him and just see what transpired. Surprisingly, that pace (which happened to be my marathon goal pace from 4 weeks back) still seemed easy and natural for me on Sunday.

So I ran with that pacer until almost the 7 mile mark and we were pretty chatty. I had never really run a race before while being conversational. At about the halfway mark, it flattens out and apparently I sped up. I found another runner to hang with at about the 8 mile mark and we stayed together until about the 12 mile marker. We were both talking and, again, the race just felt easy like a long run. From the midway point until the end of the race, I really don't remember anyone passing me. Runners just felt like they were coming back to me. This was the polar opposite of last year's race. It was weird... maybe because I had no aspiration to PR. Maybe my marathon training was still carrying me. With about 2 miles to go, I realized I could probably PR if I wanted to run hard enough to really hurt. I decided against that. With about a mile to go, I did intentionally pick up the pace. I finally got a little "uncomfortable", but this was only in the last 1/2 mile or so. My fastest 2 miles ended up being miles 12 and 13.

In hindsight, I'm guessing I could've pushed harder in the 2nd half and probably could've PR'd. However it was really a nice run and I can't imagine enjoying the actually running part of a half marathon anymore than this. A bigger venue with more spectators could've been nice and exciting. Running in Disney certainly would've been more fun. But something about just showing up and not knowing what to expect, and then a very solid race just sorta unfolding organically is pretty special. My splits were 55:43 and 52:53. I tried to run negative splits in Chicago, but couldn't help myself from going out too fast. I'm sure it's easier to actually do it in a half, but FOR ME this is the way to race. So....

ATYQOTD: My best races are when I can relax early in a race and just "let the pace come to me". It's really difficult to execute when you have fresh legs that just want to take off when the gun sounds. But my most enjoyable and successful races have come when I was disciplined enough to start slow and finish stronger.

Congrats on your race! It sounds like you had a very pleasant experience! Those are always the best.
 
I was curious so I decided to Google the event and found an article. To sum it up, it seems it didn't change the order in which people finished but did add some time/distance to the run. The women's winner was in the group that went extra and according to the article (Which seems to have been written by someone with little knowledge of the sport) ran an extra "mile or two". Looks like up to a dozen people ran extra, before the error was realized. The women who won had only had a 12 miler as a long run leading up to the race and forgot to charge her GPS watch the night before so wasn't sure of exactly how much extra she ran. That is impressive with only having a 12 miler to go on, heading into a marathon and running low 3:15:xx ish. The reason I said the guy who wrote the article didn't know much about the sport, is because he/she mentioned that elite runners aren't always allowed to use a watch during a run. I cant think of a single major marathon in which this is true, but if it is please correct me.

Seems like a few stories like this lately. Some people at popular BQ marathon in PA got stopped at a train crossing and had to wait out the train. I also heard about a pacer getting lost and running several people off course at another marathon. Would be so awful to have something like any of these happen to you at a race.

ATTQOTD: not voting - I'll leave it at that.
 

ATTQOTD: Voted this morning... long lines. I would've had to get up super early to run, so I'll just say I'm still "recovering" from Sunday and get back at it tomorrow.
 
Seems like a few stories like this lately. Some people at popular BQ marathon in PA got stopped at a train crossing and had to wait out the train. I also heard about a pacer getting lost and running several people off course at another marathon. Would be so awful to have something like any of these happen to you at a race.

I read about the train one! http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/index.ssf/2016/09/via_runners_stopped_by_train_c.html
One of the running blogs I read mentioned a few in one of their posts. I would be pretty miffed if I was attempting a big PR or to BQ and then the pace leader took me off course http://www.pressdemocrat.com/sports...thon-race-director?gallery=6040676&artslide=0
or if it was mismeasured: http://www.kgw.com/news/local/vanco...take-means-runners-times-wont-count/327771670

Some of the commenters said that the runners should have memorized the course to prevent taking wrong turns, but I can't imagine memorizing a 3 mile course, let alone 26 miles. Probably running trails you need to be better prepared (Barkley comes to mind). All my races, I've sort of turned off my mind in terms of where I'm supposed to go and hope that the volunteers can point me in the right direction. I did go off course during my last half, but luckily not too far since it went into a dead end.
 
I was curious so I decided to Google the event and found an article. To sum it up, it seems it didn't change the order in which people finished but did add some time/distance to the run. The women's winner was in the group that went extra and according to the article (Which seems to have been written by someone with little knowledge of the sport) ran an extra "mile or two". Looks like up to a dozen people ran extra, before the error was realized. The women who won had only had a 12 miler as a long run leading up to the race and forgot to charge her GPS watch the night before so wasn't sure of exactly how much extra she ran. That is impressive with only having a 12 miler to go on, heading into a marathon and running low 3:15:xx ish. The reason I said the guy who wrote the article didn't know much about the sport, is because he/she mentioned that elite runners aren't always allowed to use a watch during a run. I cant think of a single major marathon in which this is true, but if it is please correct me.
Interesting. Thanks for looking it up.
 
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I read about the train one! http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/index.ssf/2016/09/via_runners_stopped_by_train_c.html
One of the running blogs I read mentioned a few in one of their posts. I would be pretty miffed if I was attempting a big PR or to BQ and then the pace leader took me off course http://www.pressdemocrat.com/sports...thon-race-director?gallery=6040676&artslide=0
or if it was mismeasured: http://www.kgw.com/news/local/vanco...take-means-runners-times-wont-count/327771670

Some of the commenters said that the runners should have memorized the course to prevent taking wrong turns, but I can't imagine memorizing a 3 mile course, let alone 26 miles. Probably running trails you need to be better prepared (Barkley comes to mind). All my races, I've sort of turned off my mind in terms of where I'm supposed to go and hope that the volunteers can point me in the right direction. I did go off course during my last half, but luckily not too far since it went into a dead end.

It's crazy to think people should memorize the course. Unless you from the area I just don't see how that's even doable. And thanks for the article links. I can't believe people were hopping between the train cars to try to keep running. Boston isn't worth dying for.
 
ATTQOTD: Hubby voted and then when he got home I voted. There was a long line for the electronic machines, but I just did paper ballot and was done in no time. I'm a planner so I made a cheat sheet of who I wanted to vote for and brought it with me.
My run is scheduled on a treadmill at 9pm tonight anyway. Maybe the will announce the new pres while I'm running??

Congrats @cburnett11 - that run sounds very zen!

I'm sometimes a course memorizer/overplanner, but even I would likely just follow the herd if everyone was going in a different direction. Maybe one day I'll win a race by being the only one to go the right way (yeah probably not.)
 
Looking for some recommendations for a spring marathon (Mid March to mid May) and was curious if anyone had a recommendation? The closer to may, the farther north I would like to go to get ideal weather.

@IamTrike how did you like the Tobacco Road Marathon? How's the course and weather? Would you recommend it?
 
Looking for some recommendations for a spring marathon (Mid March to mid May) and was curious if anyone had a recommendation? The closer to may, the farther north I would like to go to get ideal weather.

@IamTrike how did you like the Tobacco Road Marathon? How's the course and weather? Would you recommend it?

Little Rock! Then you get one of their gigantic medals.
 
AQOTD: I mailed in my ballot a week ago. No run for me today. I've got a sinus infection that's got me wiped out.

I feel your pain on the sinus thing. I think I would prefer the stomach bug over this. At least I know the bug will run its course in a fairly short time, whereas a sinus infection is a big unknown.
 
Looking for some recommendations for a spring marathon (Mid March to mid May) and was curious if anyone had a recommendation? The closer to may, the farther north I would like to go to get ideal weather.

@IamTrike how did you like the Tobacco Road Marathon? How's the course and weather? Would you recommend it?
If you want northern in May you can come up here to Canada! The Toronto Marathon is on May 7, and it is a pretty fast downhill BQ course.
 
ATTQOTD: I voted on my way to work. Today is a scheduled rest day, so voting has no impact. It really wouldn't have anyway. Part of me wishes I had a run scheduled to take my mind off waiting for the results.
 
QOTD: Since today is election day, todays question will focus on that. Did you or are you going to vote? Are you going to have to adjust your running plans to both run and vote today?

Already voted, and since I get up by 4:30am to run, no changes were needed to my running plans.
 
Little Rock! Then you get one of their gigantic medals.

I have seen them at a race expo last year and that medal is massive. I think I've read that each year that make it a little bit bigger than the previous years... If so, they are going to have some interesting issue in about 20 years lol. Hills?

If you want northern in May you can come up here to Canada! The Toronto Marathon is on May 7, and it is a pretty fast downhill BQ course.

That would require a passport which I don't have. I guess I could get one but international travel seems like a expensive option. I'll look into it though.
 
I've posted in here a few times about the problems I have been having with my ITB.

I just wanted to let people know that after several months of dedicated physio exercises - I got through the three races at Wine and Dine weekend completely unscathed. No pain during the race, or afterwards (I happily ran down a set of stairs at the Boardwalk hours after which made me want to do cartwheels!).

The added bonus? All those pistol squats for five months gave my thighs added strength - which meant for the first time ever I've run a half and don't have any thigh pain afterwards. In fact I have no muscle pain at all after the three races. This has made me realise the importance of strength training, stretching (after a race, not just before) and foam rolling. It has made a world of difference not just to how my injury has healed, but also how I have recovered after the races.
 
I have seen them at a race expo last year and that medal is massive. I think I've read that each year that make it a little bit bigger than the previous years... If so, they are going to have some interesting issue in about 20 years lol. Hills?

Hills are relative. My idea of hills living in VA is going to be different than yours in BR. I've not done the race yet (on my list for 2018). I've read there are a few hills, but it's no Blue Ridge Marathon. I think the LR marathon seems manageable. You just aren't going to BQ there. But, isn't that what Houston is for?

@Dis5150 could probably give more insight to the hills. I believe she's done the half, so she may have familiarity with the course.
 













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