The Official DIS Oscars LIVE Watch Party Thread! The Afterparty continues. . .

[AustinTink]

Maybe but it wouldn’t have been Jada’s first or last affair. Think this is more about Rock not obeying Jada’s Oscar boycott. He thought he could have his thoughts heard in a more positive way. And the the joke about her not being invited anyways. Methinks she doesn’t like being told no. But hey. Just my thoughts!

Even then. That joke from 2016 is not enough coupled with this new joke to set Will off. There has to be more to the Chris/Jada/Will story.

 

[Marrila]

Even then. That joke from 2016 is not enough coupled with this new joke to set Will off. There has to be more to the Chris/Jada/Will story.

Maybe? But there doesn't have to be anything more.
Smith is over 50. He's spent many years of his adult life in the privileged arena of Hollywood A listers.
Maybe he just felt entitled to do whatever he wished.

 

[DLgal]

Couple random clarifying points (sorry, too lazy to multi quote here)

1. The Oscar's are on a 2-3 second delay, max. The slap was a surprise to everyone. And it happened FAST. There was not enough time to react and prevent everyone from seeing it. The subsequent yelling was only cut out of the audio feed in America because the overseas networks get a "raw feed" but the US broadcast is subject to FCC compliance on censorship, so immediately after the slap, in anticipation of a verbal exchange, someone in the control room hit the button to cut the audio feed for the US broadcast, because they didn't know what Will would say. It was a preemptive move. The raw feed continued. Just a bit of "behind the scenes" perspective, and why we saw the slap but did not hear the cursing.

2. NO ONE at the Oscars knows the winners in advance. Not even the producers. Those sealed envelopes are handed over by an accounting firm just before the ceremony and the only people privy to the contents are the employees at that firm who tally the votes and create the envelopes. They are sworn to secrecy. Will was the "odds on favorite" to win best actor, but they didn't simply allow him to stay "so he could receive his award." They did not know he would win until the envelope was opened.

3. There has been speculation for years that Jada is Will's beard. It's one of those poorly kept Hollywood secrets. Whether anyone truly cares about that or not is irrelevant. But it's been out there for awhile. Perhaps this could explain Will's attachment to Jada and the insistence on remaining married to her. Who knows. But I do know that people who try to live a lie eventually crack.

4. Chris Rock is a class act for sure. He could be exploiting this situation if he were a lesser man. That he isn't, and that he is taking his time to process what happened before responding is admirable. That he apologized to Wanda Sykes for what happened speaks volumes as well.

5. I'm glad the Academy is admitting that they should have handled things differently, even if that's just a CYA move. I have heard that the actors unions are going after the Academy HARD for allowing "violence in the workplace" to go unchecked. Those unions are quite influential and I don't expect Will to get off easily. There is pressure to make an example out of him.

 

[leeniewdw]

Even then. That joke from 2016 is not enough coupled with this new joke to set Will off. There has to be more to the Chris/Jada/Will story.

Yeah, if there was bad blood for 6 years, you'd think think the agents/PR people would be able to convey that to the Oscars producer and ask that they ensure there wouldn't be a repeat with will a front runner for a major award.

I mean it's completely lame if it's a 6 year old 'feud', but if it was such big deal, seems like there's ways around it.

 

[TLSnell1981]

4. Chris Rock is a class act for sure. He could be exploiting this situation if he were a lesser man. That he isn't, and that he is taking his time to process what happened before responding is admirable. That he apologized to Wanda Sykes for what happened speaks volumes as well.

Apologizing to those who witnessed the assault. This stood out to me. CR has nothing to apologize for. He was the victim. However, it does let us know he is aware how this can affect those who witness violence.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

3. There has been speculation for years that Jada is Will's beard. It's one of those poorly kept Hollywood secrets. Whether anyone truly cares about that or not is irrelevant. But it's been out there for awhile. Perhaps this could explain Will's attachment to Jada and the insistence on remaining married to her. Who knows. But I do know that people who try to live a lie eventually crack.

What does this mean?

 

[Marrila]

What does this mean?

If you google "bearded relationships" it is explained.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

What does this mean?

That she is covering for him actually being gay. So they stay married to not out him, but actually live their own lives behind the scenes (or out in the open in Jada’s case).

 

[Pea-n-Me]

If you google "bearded relationships" it is explained.

That she is covering for him actually being gay. So they stay married to not out him, but actually live their own lives behind the scenes (or out in the open in Jada’s case).

Thank you.

 

[Imzadi]

Now I’m learning all the stuff she shared on her Red Table Talk and wow! I can’t believe she’s telling all this stuff to millions of people. She made Will look like a fool. No good can be gained from this over sharing and humiliation.

I think Jada and Will are both toxic narcissists. That's the only reason they are still together at this point, given everything they have told the world about their marriage.

Can someone please give us the Cliff Notes version of what was shared about their relationship and how it humiliated Will?

 

[Imzadi]

Even then. That joke from 2016 is not enough coupled with this new joke to set Will off. There has to be more to the Chris/Jada/Will story.

Yes, I posted yesterday that Chris & Will have known each other for about 30 years. Chris & Jada worked together in the past before she called him to not host the 2016 Oscars and boycott with her. TMZ says they all do not get along. Probably because Chris doesn't fall in line with fawning over them loving everything that comes out of their mouths the way he's supposed to. And he doesn't hide when he thinks what they say and do is B.S.

 

[Imzadi]

Apologizing to those who witnessed the assault. This stood out to me. CR has nothing to apologize for. He was the victim. However, it does let us know he is aware how this can affect those who witness violence.

Chris was bullied and victimized a lot during his childhood. Unfortunately, many victims feel responsible that it affects others.

I also have to wonder if, during the 30 years that Chris & Will have known each other and worked together in the past, if they both have mentioned to each other the violence they suffered in their childhood? I've never seen Everybody Hates Chris which is supposed to be partially about Chris' childhood experiences. I have to wonder if Will knew Chris wouldn't fight back but take the slap? And he could turn and walk back to his seat with that proud smirk he had on his face after.

Not only that, Chris would continue with the show.

Chris hasn't filed a police report.

Chris still hasn't spoken about the incident or made jokes about it.

 

[AustinTink]

Can someone please give us the Cliff Notes version of what was shared about their relationship and how it humiliated Will?

Jada is into polyamory and was raised in that type of environment. She openly has other men in her life. This came to light when one of the boyfriends talked to the media about it. Will and Jada had to address it. Her daughter has now come out as polyamorous also, based on her upbringing in that household. Will apparently acts likes he is cool with it, but it might be tearing away at him at this point. Their son has mental health issues and eating disorders that they talk about as well. No doubt from of the tumultuous family life he has experienced.

 

[Imzadi]

2. NO ONE at the Oscars knows the winners in advance. Not even the producers. Those sealed envelopes are handed over by an accounting firm just before the ceremony and the only people privy to the contents are the employees at that firm who tally the votes and create the envelopes. They are sworn to secrecy. Will was the "odds on favorite" to win best actor, but they didn't simply allow him to stay "so he could receive his award." They did not know he would win until the envelope was opened.

I think that has changed. Especially after the Moonlight debacle. They don't want any more of those types of incidents, no matter what they publicly say on the show. Were the accountants even introduced this year? I don't remember seeing them.

3. There has been speculation for years that Jada is Will's beard. It's one of those poorly kept Hollywood secrets. Whether anyone truly cares about that or not is irrelevant. But it's been out there for awhile. Perhaps this could explain Will's attachment to Jada and the insistence on remaining married to her. Who knows. But I do know that people who try to live a lie eventually crack.

Then he could have simply married Nicole Kidman and later Katie Holmes and gotten divorced.

 

[TheIncredibles!]

5. I'm glad the Academy is admitting that they should have handled things differently, even if that's just a CYA move. I have heard that the actors unions are going after the Academy HARD for allowing "violence in the workplace" to go unchecked. Those unions are quite influential and I don't expect Will to get off easily. There is pressure to make an example out of him.

Will put the Academy in an unbearable position. They cannot promise safety to people on stage any longer. They did not address that assault immediately. If it had been a stranger doing it they'd be in jail right now. The fact that it was an "elite" member of their personal society should not have factored. Safety first, the show must go on AFTER that is insured.

What happens at the next event where somebody goes on stage to smack somebody they don't like? How could you press charges against the next person if you didn't against the first person? It's going to be very interesting to see how this entire scenario plays out.

If anybody has any sense though Will Smith's career will take an incredible and long term hit for this. Plus... he's an ACTOR you should have ACTED like you were not upset you damn bozo.

 

[Imzadi]

Scientology too? I didn’t know about that. Yowsa, that’s a whole new level of nuts!

I hope this was his wake up call to seek professional help.

Scientologists don't believe in psychotherapy. They are only supposed to take more Scientology courses and get audited and do their version of cleanses.

When I see Will in tears I remind myself that he's an actor. How much of his reaction was real, and how much was a performance to impress his audience?

I think he probably started crying after an academy person told him to leave. Then he realized he had effed up. During his acceptance speech he said he hopes the Academy invites him back. And most of the speech was a justification for the slap.

 

[AustinTink]

Then he could have simply married Nicole Kidman and later Katie Holmes and gotten divorced.

Interestingly, like Tom, Will is linked to Scientology.

 

[AustinTink]

Scientologists don't believe in psychotherapy. They are only supposed to take more Scientology courses and get audited and do their version of cleanses.

The Smiths opened up a Scientology school under the guise of it being a Leadership School. When the truth came out about it, they closed it down. There is so much more to their story. I've always found them odd.

 

[Skywalker]

Every one of those "A-List" phonies who gave Will Smith a standing ovation should be ashamed of themselves. Really giving a standing ovation to the perpetrator while the victim is backstage somewhere watching this, probably still in shock? Go choke, Hollywood. Ya suck.

 

[fly girl]

Scientologists don't believe in psychotherapy. They are only supposed to take more Scientology courses and get audited and do their version of cleanses.




I think he probably started crying after an academy person told him to leave. Then he realized he had effed up. During his acceptance speech he said he hopes the Academy invites him back. And most of the speech was a justification for the slap.

You’re right, they don’t. But from previous post it looked like they only “dabbled” and weren’t full fledged.

I never heard of them being members of Scientology before that post (but I’m not the best on celebrity gossip either), so I was hoping it was just a brief dabble with no repercussions and not a Leah Remini type of situation.