The new search system- problems, observations, issues

[DisMN]

The thought being that the cruelty and stalking on the boards was in excess and made much easier by the earlier, (before Board Tracker (or B.B.T. as I will now refer to it)) simple link to search function.

So, now, troublemakers cannot make as much trouble, and we all will give up looking for a user friendly search function that is accurate.

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If you read the statement by Pete that Kathy Linked you too, you will see this is an issue about server strain... the DIS was often overloading it's servers, bring the DIS to a crawl.. servers cost a lot ot run and maintain.

It has seemed to me for some time now that people who use the DIS not for Disney information, but instead use it for stalking someone, might be putting a strain on the resources here. On one hand I miss the search function but on the other hand I am fine with knowing the stalkers are inconvenienced or hindered in their games.

I was wondering something though. Could a search feature be put on just certain forums? I mean would it be necessary to have it on the CB? If you could just put it on the forums where Disney/park/travel info was needed would that be less strain on the server?

 

[smjj]

It has seemed to me for some time now that people who use the DIS not for Disney information, but instead use it for stalking someone, might be putting a strain on the resources here. On one hand I miss the search function but on the other hand I am fine with knowing the stalkers are inconvenienced or hindered in their games.

I am sorry, I just will not buy that as a reason to replace a good search engine with one that is clearly inferior. The strain on the resourses maybe, but not to prevent stalkers and the such. I just don't buy it...smjj

 

[WebmasterAlex]

I am sorry, I just will not buy that as a reason to replace a good search engine with one that is clearly inferior. The strain on the resourses maybe, but not to prevent stalkers and the such. I just don't buy it...smjj

I'm glad to see common sense prevail!
It's all about the server load and any thoughts that we are manipulating the search system because of "stalkers" is just...just...just.. wrong

 

[WebmasterAlex]

ATTENTION!!! MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE FOR A MAJOR SEARCH ANNOUNCEMENT!

We ordered a new server for the boards today. The purpose of this server will be solely to provide search services for the boards
In other words we are going back to the old search!
It also means we now need 3 large servers to run just the boards......
Give me a week or two to set this thing up and get it rolling!

 

[WebmasterAlex]

Just for giggles, can you give some of us techies and rundown and the issues? Feel free to speak in nerd...I'm well versed...

Simple..server load
Put 3000 simultaneous users on a single Mysql database server and it's pretty loaded.. Add full text search and it crawls to a halt
What we are going to do is replicate the Mysql to a slave server (as soon as I can figure out how the heck they do that ) and we will have only the search queries go to that server so if search bogs things down it only affects search... nothing else

 

[NotSoLittleMermaid]

Thank you!

 

[DisMN]

ATTENTION!!! MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE FOR A MAJOR SEARCH ANNOUNCEMENT!

We ordered a new server for the boards today. The purpose of this server will be solely to provide search services for the boards
In other words we are going back to the old search!
It also means we now need 3 large servers to run just the boards......
Give me a week or two to set this thing up and get it rolling!

I may not have common sense but DUDE!!! being able to search again will be nice. I tried again yesterday and gave up.....so good luck getting it back up and running.

 

[dpuck1998]

Simple..server load
Put 3000 simultaneous users on a single Mysql database server and it's pretty loaded.. Add full text search and it crawls to a halt
What we are going to do is replicate the Mysql to a slave server (as soon as I can figure out how the heck they do that ) and we will have only the search queries go to that server so if search bogs things down it only affects search... nothing else

Now that you got me excited gimme some specs...what kind of server? I want to fly down and install it ;-)

I mentioned this a long time ago, but check out VMWare and ESX Server, its awesome. You could put the search function on a "Virtual" Server and only give it a specific amount of resources that wouldn't bog the server down and save you the cost of hardware. Of course the software isn't free so it might be a wash...

Good luck...I've spent many long nights with new servers...its never a quick and easy as they make it sound!

 

[Sk8Leigh]

ATTENTION!!! MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE FOR A MAJOR SEARCH ANNOUNCEMENT!

We ordered a new server for the boards today. The purpose of this server will be solely to provide search services for the boards
In other words we are going back to the old search!
It also means we now need 3 large servers to run just the boards......
Give me a week or two to set this thing up and get it rolling!

Thank you webmasters!!!

 

[WebmasterAlex]

Now that you got me excited gimme some specs...what kind of server? I want to fly down and install it ;-)

I mentioned this a long time ago, but check out VMWare and ESX Server, its awesome. You could put the search function on a "Virtual" Server and only give it a specific amount of resources that wouldn't bog the server down and save you the cost of hardware. Of course the software isn't free so it might be a wash...

Good luck...I've spent many long nights with new servers...its never a quick and easy as they make it sound!

We use leased servers we really can't run virtual's on them.
The other issue is that the main database server is completely loaded up anyway.

 

[travelbug]

ATTENTION!!! MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE FOR A MAJOR SEARCH ANNOUNCEMENT!

We ordered a new server for the boards today. The purpose of this server will be solely to provide search services for the boards
In other words we are going back to the old search!
It also means we now need 3 large servers to run just the boards......
Give me a week or two to set this thing up and get it rolling!

This is great news!!!! Thank you, Alex, and any other mods making it possible.

 

[Dan Murphy]

Greta news, Alex, looking forward to it. Hope the installation and all goes well.

 

[dpuck1998]

We use leased servers we really can't run virtual's on them.
The other issue is that the main database server is completely loaded up anyway.

Ahh..so you don't get to play with the new toy :-( I'm sure you'll stay plenty busy with SQL in general then...thanks for the updates...good luck...I'll be here all weekend to make sure the DST changes don't blow up the world.

 

[tink2020]

ATTENTION!!! MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE FOR A MAJOR SEARCH ANNOUNCEMENT!

We ordered a new server for the boards today. The purpose of this server will be solely to provide search services for the boards
In other words we are going back to the old search!
It also means we now need 3 large servers to run just the boards......
Give me a week or two to set this thing up and get it rolling!

Simple..server load
Put 3000 simultaneous users on a single Mysql database server and it's pretty loaded.. Add full text search and it crawls to a halt
What we are going to do is replicate the Mysql to a slave server (as soon as I can figure out how the heck they do that ) and we will have only the search queries go to that server so if search bogs things down it only affects search... nothing else

THANK YOU SO MUCH! We all realize that you (and Pete, and everyone else who works so hard on this site and these boards) don't have to do everything the way we'd like it..... but we REALLY appreciate that you heard us and stuck with us on this. I am so excited to be able to search well again, I could kiss you all! Seriously, it is (and you all are) MUCH appreciated!

 

[Isca]

Is this why my searches have been redirected back to the search page?

 

[DisneyWorld Delight]

Happy-Happy-Joy-Joy
Happy-Happy-Joy-Joy
Happy-Happy-Joy-Joy-JOY!!!!


I'll never ask for anything else, ever again!

 

[gradtchr]

We're not worthy Alex!!!!!!!!!! Words can not express how happy I am! Thank you soooooooooooo much!!!!!!

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

ATTENTION!!! MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION PLEASE FOR A MAJOR SEARCH ANNOUNCEMENT!

We ordered a new server for the boards today. The purpose of this server will be solely to provide search services for the boards
In other words we are going back to the old search!
It also means we now need 3 large servers to run just the boards......
Give me a week or two to set this thing up and get it rolling!

YAY!!! But can you do all this work from the soccer field?

 

[jfulcer]

Any updates on this yet?

 

[WebmasterAlex]

I'm still working on it! I had a last minute trip to Chicago on business so that has delayed things a bit