The man Cheney shots has had a heart attack

Bob Slydell said:
Only if you're negligent. :)

Well.........................that's why you have investigations. ;)
 
LuvDuke said:
Well.........................that's why you have investigations. ;)

Not of basic hunting accidents. Otherwise, there would be thousands of wasteful investigations every year.
 
sgtdisney said:
Low class, low morals, low security. Sure you can go on. :clown:
:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

That's all Bush has going for him...security?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but when Bubba was President, we captured the man responsible for the attack on the World Trade Center during his watch...how Bush doing finding his guy? Last I heard he was making new threats against America from whatever rock he's living free under right now...lovely job your boys doing!!
 

Laugh O. Grams said:
:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

That's all Bush has going for him...security?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but when Bubba was President, we captured the man responsible for the attack on the World Trade Center during his watch...how Bush doing finding his guy? Last I heard he was making new threats against America from whatever rock he's living free under right now...lovely job your boys doing!!

Interesting perspective. Funny, many people think Clinton had a chance to get Bin Laden, BEFORE 9/11 happened, but didn't take it. He was probably too busy 'smoking' cigars and entertaining his interns. :hippie:
 
Laugh O. Grams said:
:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

That's all Bush has going for him...security?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but when Bubba was President, we captured the man responsible for the attack on the World Trade Center during his watch...how Bush doing finding his guy? Last I heard he was making new threats against America from whatever rock he's living free under right now...lovely job your boys doing!!

If you wanna go there, if Clinton had the marbles to allow the CIA to capture Bin Laden when he had the chance (3 times by the way), then it wouldn't even be an issue now would it?
 
julia & nicks mom said:
Just a quick note on why Cheney had a medical team -

this is SOP for the president and Vice president -

here is a link detailing it with the president:

http://www.dcmilitary.com/airforce/beam/5_47/national_news/3300-1.html

Thank you - we've heard a lot about the medical team here. Likely because Wilford Hall is here. Seemed scary to me, given Cheney's health, that he has a medical team with him. However, it looks like SOP.
 
Bob Slydell said:
Not of basic hunting accidents. Otherwise, there would be thousands of wasteful investigations every year.

I respectfully disagree here. Every gunshot wound has to be reported and is investigated.
 
Laugh O. Grams said:
:rotfl2: :rotfl2: :rotfl2:

That's all Bush has going for him...security?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but when Bubba was President, we captured the man responsible for the attack on the World Trade Center during his watch...how Bush doing finding his guy? Last I heard he was making new threats against America from whatever rock he's living free under right now...lovely job your boys doing!!
That's true he did, but we also had two embassies bombings and the USS Cole. Did Bubba go after those involved? Nope. He only cought the man responsible for the Trade Center bombing...only because the man was on our soil.
 
Bob Slydell said:
Not of basic hunting accidents. Otherwise, there would be thousands of wasteful investigations every year.
Is that really true - that most shootings are not investigated at all? I would have guessed otherwise, but confess I have no direct knowledge. I know that any time there is death involved, one cannot move the body until the ME rules it as natural. My DMIL pased away in our home overnight and my FIL was distraught that he could not move her until the ME arrived and confirmed that it was massive heart attack. And police were present. I have presumed that if someone is shot, even if it is not fatal, there would be some investigation. Could it really be that there is not? I also thought that if you report to the ER with a gunshot would that LE is called. No? Does someone know otherwise?
 
sgtdisney said:
Interesting perspective. Funny, many people think Clinton had a chance to get Bin Laden, BEFORE 9/11 happened, but didn't take it.
And Bush didn't?!?! Do the words of the internal White House memo "Bin Laden determined to strike within US" mean anything to you? Guess not...it sure didn't mean anything to President Bush...
 
LuvDuke said:
I respectfully disagree here. Every gunshot wound has to be reported and is investigated.

They'll investigate. It'll involve interviewing each of the parties present at the accident and getting their statements. I'd be shocked if any of the statements said anything other than it was an unfortunate accident.

End of investigation. Cheney's told to hunt more carefully next time. :)
 
Laugh O. Grams said:
And Bush didn't?!?! Do the words of the internal White House memo "Bin Laden determined to strike within US" mean anything to you? Guess not...it sure didn't mean anything to President Bush...

Clinton was in office for 8 years and never even tried to get him. Bush wasn't barely in office for 8 MONTHS when it happened. I am sure Clinton was busy though. Dallying with his employees. :cloud9:
 
Laugh O. Grams said:
And Bush didn't?!?! Do the words of the internal White House memo "Bin Laden determined to strike within US" mean anything to you? Guess not...it sure didn't mean anything to President Bush...
Bin Laden was offered to the US by Turkey, I think, on a couple of occasions and bubby turned them down.
 
Supposedly Texas Parks and Wildlife was notified pretty quickly and sent a Game Warden to investigate the accident immediatly. A report was filed and according to the report no alcohol was involved and it was reported as a true accident. These types of things happen every year in Texas and the Game Wardens are experienced in investigating such occurances. SmokingGun.com already has a copy of the report filed by the Game Warden on line as of yesterday. From that report and all other information available there is no reason for charges to be brought against Cheney. Its a sad occurance that unfortunatly happens from time to time during hunts. As far as this thing turning partisan all I can say is I wished the best for President Clinton when he had heart surgery and prayed for his recovery and will pray for the gentlemen who was shot by Mr Cheny. Partisan or not we are all Americans and I hope caring and feeling people whether we are spiritual or not and would never wish bad things upon people because I don't agree with their political views. If you do then I am very worried about you.
 
sodaseller said:
Is that really true - that most shootings are not investigated at all? I would have guessed otherwise, but confess I have no direct knowledge. I know that any time there is death involved, one cannot move the body until the ME rules it as natural. My DMIL pased away in our home overnight and my FIL was distraught that he could not move her until the ME arrived and confirmed that it was massive heart attack. And police were present. I have presumed that if someone is shot, even if it is not fatal, there would be some investigation. Could it really be that there is not? I also thought that if you report to the ER with a gunshot would that LE is called. No? Does someone know otherwise?


As far as I always knew all gunshot wounds are investigated, so that wpuld mean that as soon as the gentleman in question was taken to a hospital the investigation started...even if the media were not alerted immediately, I would guess the authorities were. There fore IF Cheney was drinking it would have been detected and with the vultures in the media I'm sure that would have been front page and headline news.
 
Of course the "media" can't run an alcohol test.......but the police (if they were notified right away) could have. It should have been done to avoid these questions.
The Game Warden looked into that... go read it yourself. Those desperately hoping to see the VP do a "perp walk" will be sorely disappointed again.
 
Nancy said:
As far as I always knew all gunshot wounds are investigated, so that wpuld mean that as soon as the gentleman in question was taken to a hospital the investigation started...even if the media were not alerted immediately, I would guess the authorities were. There fore IF Cheney was drinking it would have been detected and with the vultures in the media I'm sure that would have been front page and headline news.
Not sure on that yet. There is some doubt as to how long after the incident he was interviewed. One report says that evening, another the next day.
 
sgtdisney said:
Clinton was in office for 8 years and never even tried to get him. Bush wasn't barely in office for 8 MONTHS when it happened.
So when exactly, is the new guy supposed to start reading his memos and taking the least amount of resposiblity? 8 months and 12 days? 27 months and 3 days? Seeing that the term limit of the POTUS is only 4 years, you don't think that maybe, just maybe, he might want to start working on day one? Wow...you Republicans sure give a guy alot of time for on-the-job training!
 
Disney Deb said:
Of course the "media" can't run an alcohol test.......but the police (if they were notified right away) could have. It should have been done to avoid these questions.
What made you think it wasn't other than assumption? And what questions are there?
 


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