I can only speak for myself. I left this thread while I was still undecided because even then it appeared to be an anti-Hillary thread. I saw nothing valuable in that so I moved on. Of course, YMMV.
I agree that some have called Obama supporters "kool aid drinkers" and "mindless" but the operative word is "some". I don't consider anyone behind a candidate any of these things, at least not those that post here. Yes, the girl on TV squealing that Obama "is so cute!" is mindless but I haven't seen that here.
And no I won't explain anything, not here at least. I don't have the stomach for the trashing I'd get and I do believe that would happen. I would bet that most Obama supporters wouldn't be eager to get into that either. I don't believe for a second that most of the rabid supporters have any desire to hear about the other candidate at this point.
I'm sorry, but if you think they are referring to "some" Obama supporters, I'd have to suggest you haven't been reading that thread. There are very few qualifiers used at all. "I was just on the Obama thread and all they're doing is picking on Hillary. What a bunch of kool aid drinkers those people are." Those comments are on virtually every page of that thread (largely by one or two posters, I'll admit).
Let me see if I can explain something: Hillary supporters see Barack's comments about how he matches up better against McCain as the equivalent of Hillary's comments about only she and McCain being qualified to be president. But look at those two statements again. Can you not see how the former is talking about the contest - that Barack can better present the argument since he's been against the war from the start, etc. - while the latter is essentially saying, "If I'm not the democratic nominee, you should vote for the other guy"? The difference in the two statements is
obvious, I would think. Yet you won't find a critical word about Hillary's repeated comments among her supporters. Not
one.
Then look at the "victim" card that Hillary's campaign is playing. They complain and complain about the press, basically saying that only she has received any press scrutiny (shocking, considering she's been the front runner from day one of the campaign...at least until people started voting). Do you see Obama's camp condemning Saturday Night Live for repeatedly slamming him while kissing Hillary's derriere? No. For someone who puts herself forward as being a "fighter" and for being "tough", she seems to complain an awful lot. But do you hear
that in the press? No.
The point of all that is to simply point out that we
do have legitimate reason to dislike the campaign that Hillary is running. When her top advisors are repeatedly saying that only the states she wins actually matter...I'm sorry, but since I live in "flyover country", that kind of elitism is offensive to me. The same goes for the nonsense about Barack not being up to the job because he "lacks experience", all the while campaigning beside her husband who had considerably
less experience than Barack does. We aren't just "engaging in a bashfest against Hillary". We have ligitmate questions as to why she is choosing to stick to the issues instead of the negative campaigning and bashing of, again, not just the candidate but
US.
Bottom line in re: the liberal thread...we each have our candidate threads to discuss out own candidates. While I don't see the need for it - I've never been one to run away from a fight - I can understand wanting to have someplace where you can go to talk about your candidate without having to debate anything. But this thread is about liberal issues, and there is no bigger issue right now than who is going to be the candidate to represent us in the upcoming general election. I just don't see the reason why some people don't want to do that.
