The Last to Post-2nd Edition - Part 3

[usnuzuloose]

Tonight was Mrs. Knott's Chicken Dinner.

Tomorrow night is Napa Rose.

Clear as mud?

Nah dont mind me as I got older I started reading dislexic ( sp? ) just me reading stupid

 

[skiingfast]

I really really do hate the situation in the USA. I saw a story about the situations people have ended up in with student loans. Breaks my heart

Tuition costs have been very inflated. In some places so have housing costs.

 

[Gisele]

Like dude, why are your snow flakes still up? Are you expecting an early winter?

 

[usnuzuloose]

I am surprised here rent has stayed about the same

 

[usnuzuloose]

Like dude, why are your snow flakes still up? Are you expecting an early winter?

I like the pic.

 

[queenie82]

Like dude, why are your snow flakes still up? Are you expecting an early winter?

Cool picture too. Sun is just setting here.....

And I'm just sitting here waiting for my computer.

 

[usnuzuloose]

Why? Did it go somewhere?

 

[Gisele]

I say it is time for some signatures to be changed. That is my vote. For some are just so dated and old.

 

[usnuzuloose]

Where did you find it? If you dont mind me asking?

 

[skiingfast]

Like dude, why are your snow flakes still up? Are you expecting an early winter?

Someone told me to keep them. I had a different signature picture but haven't been able to find it. It will be snowing soon enough.

I am surprised here rent has stayed about the same

Is it more than in 1990? There was a thing about property costs inflating which dragged up rent costs.

 

[Gisele]

i see....well if you like i can send you new sig ideas and pics.

 

[usnuzuloose]

That would be very nice of you. Thank you

 

[usnuzuloose]

Someone told me to keep them. I had a different signature picture but haven't been able to find it. It will be snowing soon enough.



Is it more than in 1990? There was a thing about property costs inflating which dragged up rent costs.

Dont know about 1990, hate to say it but life was a blur then. No drugs or anything like just life in general

 

[skiingfast]

But you are aware of the housing bubble right?

 

[usnuzuloose]

As of 08 ? Yes we had a home and sold it on a short sale

 

[skiingfast]

Anyone watch Sunday night football? I forgot it was on, but enjoyed some football during the week.

 

[PrincessInOz]

I don't wish to create a large debate but I am curious how one justifies implementing something so completely unsustainable...

How long do you propose something like that could go on?
I had a mother who had friends return to uni to do things as a result. Maybe she should have gone back and done medicine. But how do you think the government pays for free university education?

I spent 10 years in the university system one way or another and only because of international students and post grad can they afford to do things. They were completely stripped of funding during that time.

I'm just highly confused as to how it was ever a good idea...

As someone who's first degree was free (well, shall we amend this to completely subsidised by the Australian government) and who's second degree was completely self-funded (making me one of those students who dropped serious cash), I see pros and cons to most sides of the education debate. My personal opinion is that the Australian education system is what it is and I accept it for that. Don't really care two ways about it other than I'm profoundly grateful to have been able to get an education, subsidised or paid for.

As to how long it goes on for? At some stage, the Aussie government will probably start to cut their expenses and at that point who can say about what the fees charged per degree will head to. Fees in Australian Universities certainly have the potential of heading the way of American Universities. It is the subsidy provided by the Australian government that keeps the fees as low as they currently are.
Afterall, the Australian government used to provide *free* water and gas to its residences. Privatisation and the subsequent taxing of the utility company revenues provides the government a means of keeping the dollars rolling in without the pain of being the one to increase the rates for these utilities.

HECS is a means of recovering some of those costs from the students and the Aussie Government has found a better means to collect the fees, via a student's tax after they earn a certain amount. Yes, the contribution per student is lower than what the US students have to pay but who can say what the future brings?

And the government pays for it by collecting taxes from everyone and corporates. Same as how they pay for everything else.

But I was on a completely different tangent......the debate was about whether *free* education was the WORST thing that happened in Australia.

Given a different sample population (eg Aboriginal people might think the First Fleet landing; farmers might say rabbits and cane toads)....I'm sure we can come up with a list of worthy contenders for worst thing to happen in Australia.

 

[skiingfast]

Do they encourage hunting of the rabbits? Does Oz have any native rabbits?

In Yellowstone lake, which is in Yellowstone National Park there is a problem. The US national park system works to preserve the native ecosytem, educate the public about the ecosytem and history of the parks, and allow people access to the parks. In Yellowstone Lake the native fish(a subspecies of cutthroat trout) calle yellowstone cutthroats are declining because of introduced Lake trout which prey on the younger cutthroats.

So they changed the fishing regulations. A. There is now no limit on keeping lake trout, when it used to be limted based on number and size of fish. B. If you catch one, you have to kill it and dispose of it properly(mostly so you are luring bears to people with fish).

It is great for fishermen. Also to take care of the problem they use less organic methods like netting them.

Wish I hadn't sold my boat before they changed the regulations. But the boat was a money sink, fun for a while a pain later.

 

[skiingfast]

Another question about the Cane Toads, I saw a show where they catch them. Why don't they fork them? Is that not a frog hunting technique use in Oz?

 

[PrincessInOz]

Rabbits are NOT indigenous to Australia. They are a pest and cause untold $$ damage for farmers.

They then introduced myxomitosis into Australia as a means of curbing the rabbits.....


A lot of the animals in Oz are imported. So, again....it is what it is and Australian Customs and Quarantine try very hard to make sure they don't introduce anything else that will become a pest in Oz.

Australia still doesn't have foot in mouth disease.....that has been reported. And until last year, we didn't have Equine Flu either.