The Genie Usage, Tips and Strategy ONLY Thread

[Babars_Wife]

I thought you could only pull the second (stacked) one at 11 if your first return time was later.

In this case their “return time” was after 11 because they probably waited until after 11 to scan into their ride (window was 10:40-11:40 and they scanned at 11:15ish)

 

[CWTC]

From what I've heard, you won't be able to see the later times until you book. After you press the button to "book attraction", your assigned time will be 2 or after on the next page regardless of what time was listed on the tip board when you booked.

I can confirm this. Epcot is our first park and we wanted to ride ROTR again: booked that for 3pm and Smuggler’s run was showing LL for 1120am. I was curious what would happen if I tried to book it: G+ presented me with a 2 pm LL for it with a comment of “time adjusted for park hopping.”

 

[Miffy]

Let's say you didn't purchase G+ and now you're in MK, for example, and you see all the standby wait times are not to your liking and you're thinking of buying G+.

Will Genie show you what the next available G+ times would be if you purchased it? Or would you just be taking a stab at better wait times if you purchase G+?

And, similarly, would you be able to see what G+s had already sold out?

I'm picturing myself RDing, then later in the morning maybe wanting to repeat some rides that now have longer standby lines.

 

[wisblue]

The Tip Board on the app shows both standby wait times and the available LL return time.

If the LL spots for an attraction are “sold out” it will say “not available”.

 

[randumb0]

Would Genie + be considered an upper level course at the local university?

 

[ZeeWP]

I thought I was getting this stuff fairly well but maybe not. In the above, at 7 am Slinky was booked for 10:43 and before they tapped in to the ride, they were able to pull a second one at 11:00 for Splash Mountain? I thought you could only pull the second (stacked) one at 11 if your first return time was later.

I think it's the tapping in time, not the return time. So it's 2 hours after park opening OR after you tap into the ride with the LL OR when the window of that ride is closed if you don't use LL pass.

 

[PepperjackDragon]

Tips from my days experience:

1: set up your tip board with your desired rides the night before. The tip board is what you use to make selections.

2: add selections that might sell out first then add by area in the park-s they cap the # of attractions added to your list, so this way you don’t have towalk back and forth.

3: when a specific selection time is not to yourliking you can pull down and refresh. Alternatively, if the attraction you want is farther down the list this can be irritating because you have to scroll down and refine it on your list. Instead, if you tap the attraction then click the back arrow it will repopulate the list and keep the chosen selection at the top of your screen. (On iPhone anyway)

4: you have to click the last checkin Mickey stile before you can rebook. If you are close to the end of your window I recommend taking a screenshot of the ressie? Didn’t test what would happpen if the time expired while between the two.

5: I don’t know what happens if you have multiple stacked LL times that are unassigned. (I had 3, but was worried that if I left two unassigned I would lose one, as I doubt the system allows you two simultaneous unassigned LL) this, if you want to ride everything and take a dinner break, plan to leave a couple of the more popular attractions until evening. I got stuck with only close arrival times on small attractions, so had to either risk letting them “expire” or had to constantly login and reassign times which got irritating and risks forgetting and using up an attraction on accident.

6: holidays might not work but to get sddat The 2hlur mark I clicked it at exactly 7am, saw 9am time,gave A fast two count and clicked it-showed 1035 for me.

 

[AnnaKristoff2013]

The stacking and being able to overlap make the strategy SOUND really fun. BUT BUT, on busy days, will there be enough passes to make it worth it?

I worry that during Thanksgiving break next year, if I get G+, I will be able to use it only for SDD and that's it. by the time the two hour passes, all the good ones (MFSR, ToT, RRC) will be gone. So basically it will be the same cost as Rise to ride SDD.

I am probably getting overly anxious too soon...

I’m going Christmas week so I’m really curious to see how this works out on Thanksgiving. I feel like they’re going to have to do something to increase LL availability for the busy days (maybe by changing the LL/standby ratio), because otherwise you’re right, people ar going to be paying $15 pp for one ride. I’ve also heard reports that LL’s are almost always walk-ones. I think they could increase the number of LL’s given out to give LL people around a 15 minute wait on average to increase aviailability, especially on busy days.

 

[Boardwalk III]

If you are having problems I suggest you update your personal info on file with MDE especially update the Wallet APP . Somebody suggested that when I went into AT&T for Genie help. And they didn’t even try to sell me a new phone!
I also have better online since I narrowed down all those magicbands on MDE….instead of having over 10 linked magicbands connected to my name I now have only 2…front desk suggested that was problem .
You can modify and editthe magicbands online when you use Your MDE . It took me awhile to figure it out but it can be done.

Were you able to delete your extra magic bands? I have more than 10 and need to get rid of some. I did move many of them to “inactive” but I’ve also heard it doesn’t really help unless you delete them and you have to call DISNEY IT for that. Wondering if that’s true?

 

[AnnaKristoff2013]

Some of the ILL$ prices went up because it's the weekend. When they gave examples at the media event a few weeks ago, they indicated prices for some rides would be higher today (Saturday) than on Tuesday. I would expect most, if not all, of those increased prices to be reduced again (to Tuesday's prices) on Monday.

How much do you want to bet the prices never get as low as they were on opening day, ever again?

 

[ZeeWP]

I’m going Christmas week so I’m really curious to see how this works out on Thanksgiving. I feel like they’re going to have to do something to increase LL availability for the busy days (maybe by changing the LL/standby ratio), because otherwise you’re right, people ar going to be paying $15 pp for one ride. I’ve also heard reports that LL’s are almost always walk-ones. I think they could increase the number of LL’s given out to give LL people around a 15 minute wait on average to increase aviailability, especially on busy days.

That is my hope!

 

[ZeeWP]

How much do you want to bet the prices never get as low as they were on opening day, ever again?

For some, like Rise yeah, they going up up up.

But EE or Space Mountain, I can see them either going lower, or disappearing into G+.

 

[AnnaKristoff2013]

HS to MK park hopping with Genie+ today Saturday Oct 24th

so the basic plan then how it played out.

we have done everything we wanted 2-3 times this week without Genie EXCEPT slinky dog and splash. So the idea was to early entry HS pick up a genie plus for Slinky then triple stack for a 2pm MK arrival.

It worked. I’ll give the final results then a few tips from my experience. Not a pro, just my first time using it but maybe it will be helpful.

7am: SD booked for 1043am
8:15- arrive to park
8:30-910: MMRR then MFSR
9:10-11:00 Plenty of time left for a quick toy story
and saucers. Frozen song along.
11:00- book 1:35pm splash mountain
(considered a noon toy story but
wanted to let kids rest)
11:15 Slinky dog
11:16 book splash at 1:35pm (later changed
to 2pm, must have gone down)
11:30 Hotel bus: worst wait of the day by far
1:16. Book Jungle cruise (daughter request

2pm arrive at MK

here I will just list the LL I got and what they changed to after getting the rides

LL0: Slinky

A1: splash 2pm
B1: thunder mountain 2:20pm
C1: Jungle Cruise 2:50pm

A2irates of Car 3:25
B2: Peter Pan 5pm (had to refresh 5 times to get it here)
C2: Pooh 4pm

A3: Ariel 4:30
B3: Haunted Mansion 7pm
C3: Mad Tea 4:25

A4: Buzz at 815
C4: small world (we also worked small world in but can’t remember which ride I booked it after, did it right before Pan. Something seems slightly off in the transition order actually but very close to how it went down.)

This was the busiest day yet. Everyone of the rides was showing 60+ between 2-5pm when we rode, a few looked to be overestimated but some looked like underestimates. Really long and slow lines.

From 530ish (requested West wing so got delayed-huge mistake imo)-815 we ate at BOG and watched enchantment. I had a dilemma here, I couldn’t book things far enough out about because all except for Haunted Mansion were within 20-40min away and we were eating. Only had stuff like Barnstormer left to get and they just weren’t going to book up in advance. To keep the triple stack LL going I just booked and then canceled and rebooked later. I ended up pushing haunted mansion back until 9pm on purpose. We could have easily risen every G+ Via the triple stack but ended up shopping after eating, rode Mine train and called it the end of the trip.

Frankly it worked amazingly well and really made an excellent last day. However it wouldn’t work as well in HS because they just don’t have enough rides so they get booked pretty far out early on. Might be possible though if you were at AK and triple stacked for a jump to HS, but I doubt it. However it works so well jumping to MK it turns MK into a 1 or at MOST 1.5 day park. If one rope dropped FOP and paid ROTR and for MMR and evening rode Seven Dwarves it might be possible to complete all three parks (Genie+ and ILL rides only) in a single day, assuming smooth transportation especially once they allow hopping prior to 2pm. A stretch but I think it may be possible.

honestly if you add this to a 10 day trip I really don’t think the parks can sustain you for that long at this pace. Will either have to underutilize Genie+ or ride everything 5-10 times. Will edit later with my tips from experience.

Wait, so if you cancel a stacked LL you can immediately rebook another attraction as well? Interesting. I think this is yet more evidence that stacking, especially at MK, is the key strategy here.

 

[Miffy]

5: I don’t know what happens if you have multiple stacked LL times that are unassigned. (I had 3, but was worried that if I left two unassigned I would lose one, as I doubt the system allows you two simultaneous unassigned LL) this, if you want to ride everything and take a dinner break, plan to leave a couple of the more popular attractions until evening. I got stuck with only close arrival times on small attractions, so had to either risk letting them “expire” or had to constantly login and reassign times which got irritating and risks forgetting and using up an attraction on accident.

Could you explain what you mean by "unassigned"? Thank you!

 

[Alexis56578]

Would Genie + be considered an upper level course at the local university?

College student here. I could totally see this being a 2 or 3000 level course.

 

[AnnaKristoff2013]

Could you explain what you mean by "unassigned"? Thank you!

I think he means that, once he had stacked 3, he had the ability to make 3 at a time. But he didn’ tknow what would happen if he let two expire at onc without booking a new one. I would assume that would mean you would lose one of the “stacks.”

 

[Miffy]

I think he means that, once he had stacked 3, he had the ability to make 3 at a time. But he didn’ tknow what would happen if he let two expire at onc without booking a new one. I would assume that would mean you would lose one of the “stacks.”

I admit that now I'm completely confused!

 

[thanxfornoticin]

Would Genie + be considered an upper level course at the local university?

No more so than the education level required for Disney planning before! Dining at 180, now 60. FP+ at 60. Park hopping or not. Park reservations. For those DVC, reservations at 11 months or 7 months. Online dining starting at 6am et. "Play" options online at 7am et. Mobile order. Dining plans. Discounts for this and that.

It has always been a magical place, but one you really needed to understand to take full advantage. We always joked about needing a PhD in Disney (not just a high-level course!). G+ and ILL$ will be more of the same - until the next generation of tech comes out. And there will be another generation of change at some point!

 

[Boardwalk III]

Would Genie + be considered an upper level course at the local university?

Best Genie Plus post ever!

 

[AnnaKristoff2013]

I admit that now I'm completely confused!

You can make one LL attraction at a time generally. After you use one, you can make another. EXCEPT if you have a LL pass that is more then 120 minutes into the future, you can make an additional one after 120 minutes. Thereafter you can effectively make 2 for the rest of the day, one after each one expires. An unknown at this point is what happens if you let both of them expire without booking a new one first. Can you still make two for the rest of the day because the system “remembers” that you were stacked, or can you only make one for the rest of the day. He was worried about testing that theory.