The demise of unrestricted resorts, by year.

[Brian Noble]

If DVC sticks to this policy, it’s going to limit flexibility for those who don’t own directly through them.

That is indeed the point.

 

[eticketplease]

If DVC sticks to this policy, it’s going to limit flexibility for those who don’t own directly through them.

I think that is what they are trying to achieve to get people to buy directly through them.

They can highlight that you can stay at any DVC resort subject to availability when buying straight from us.

 

[Tatebeck]

I feel like as time marches on and more and more resorts enter the "restricted" territory SAP will be a mute point and people will just go back to the mantra of "Buy Where you want to stay"

I see people either
1. Not adding on more points
2. Adding on Direct anywhere
3. Adding on Resale but only to add to their current home resort(s) since they won't be able to go anywhere else with them.

Unless it is an extremely popular like BCV 2.0 or BWV 2.0 I don't think too many people will be buying standalone restricted resale

Yep, they want to get rid of the cheap resale SAP options, If you want to see all the resorts, they will make you buy direct eventually.

A smallish resale contract at a resort you own direct points at really is one of the best hacks. Lower your overall point cost for the resort, then bank and borrow when you know you want to stay at that resort and save the direct points for direct SAP. I may get some eventually for our RIV contracts. And maybe sell BWV before it expires to get a little something back out of it. We got a good deal on it at $99pp so even after a few years we may be able to offload it and break even still.

 

[Brian Noble]

The plural of anecdote is not data, but...

I would never, ever have purchased directly from DVD prior to 2019, because I did not need to spend thousands (and thousands) of dollars so that the tapstyles would turn purple and welcome me home.

Now? Purple tapstyles!

I don't think too many people will be buying standalone restricted resale

I think this depends on the price. If they are cheap enough, someone will bite.

 

[wilkydelts]

I understand the arguement of certain post 2042 resorts needing updated point charts when they go to get sold again, but SSR and OKW post 2054/57 are going to have to have the reasonable point charts in comparision to the other resorts or they will never be purchased. DVC has to be reasonable, point charts and price points can not just keep increasing without rebuke.

 

[Girlstar30]

It's not that I don't like it. It's still a WDW deluxe resort and I would rather be at any of those than at home lol. But I do like others much more.

I just never understand why someone would make a large purchase and buy a deeded real estate interest at a resort they do not want to stay at when the only thing guaranteed in that contract is to be able to stay at that very resort. Just having the chance to maybe change out resorts at 7 months unless Disney changes it seems risky when you can just buy at a resort you want to stay at.

None of this applies if you truly love SSR of course. If you love SSR it is indeed a great deal.

Because without it I couldn't have 100 extra points to play with for 1 and 2 bedrooms at a cheaper price, with cheaper maintenance fees, and that lasts almost as long as my other two more desirable to me contracts.

It's a great buy right now and Disney can do a lot of things that would make this product undesirable to me. If they limited us to just one resort, I wouldn't buy any contract and wouldn't want to keep my contracts, that's why I dont buy Riviera resale. If I successfully pass ROFR and I can successfully book VGF and PIT at less than 7 months like I have this year with my SAP+ points then the job can and is being accomplished.

18 years is a long time that's almost half of my life time. If I can enjoy these resorts for just half of my current lifetime I will be so happy

 

[Tatebeck]

Because without it I couldn't have 100 extra points to play with for 1 and 2 bedrooms at a cheaper price, with cheaper maintenance fees, and that lasts almost as long as my other two more desirable to me contracts.

It's a great buy right now and Disney can do a lot of things that would make this product undesirable to me. If they limited us to just one resort, I wouldn't buy any contract and wouldn't want to keep my contracts, that's why I dont buy Riviera resale. If I successfully pass ROFR and I can successfully book VGF and PIT at less than 7 months like I have this year with my SAP+ points then the job can and is being accomplished.

18 years is a long time that's almost half of my life time. If I can enjoy these resorts for just half of my current lifetime I will be so happy

If you were always going to book the most expensive 1BR at PIT or VGF every time anyway, then getting in at 7 months with SSR is indeed savings each time you do it. But it wont work every time and will likely get harder over time, even for 1BR which is usually the easiest. If you are fine with staying at SSR or eating a loss on an SSR contract if everyone tries to get out of their contracts if/when 7 month availability tightens up then that is an option you may be okay with. I just don't get the gamble myself. As the saying goes the juice just isn't worth the squeeze to me when there are other options out there. If it was SSR resale vs current Direct points as the only options then that would be a different story and even I would buy SSR. But there are a lot of other good options in a close enough price range.

As most members know, the cheapest views usually book first. So if you would normally book the cheapest view (even if it was a 1BR) but you end up having to book a more expensive view to get availability at 7 months, with a quick look that can range from an extra 54 up to 145 extra points for a week at the more expensive view(s) at Poly/VGF in the 1BR. If you have to use a bunch of extra points each time you stay like that, you may not end up saving anything, or maybe even spending more even with the cheap points. An extra 54 to 145 points each time and their dues can eat into that savings or the "extra" points you got by going with SSR very quickly. This difference will be less with the studios, and more with the 2BRs.

A member can buy the more expensive points even at VGF or Poly, but book the cheaper view room and still come out ahead. And with VGF or Poly you would get an extra 10 or 12 years. In 2054 you could sell the contract and get some money back when SSR members are left with nothing. And the whole time this member would always have the option of booking the better view if they wished, and wouldn't have to gamble on unknown long term 7 month availability.

It's multifactorial and every member has to make their choices.

Edit: Also some of the options actually have cheaper dues than SSR. Like BLT and Poly

 

[Girlstar30]

If you were always going to book the most expensive 1BR at PIT or VGF every time anyway, then getting in at 7 months with SSR is indeed savings each time you do it. But it wont work every time and will likely get harder over time, even for 1BR which is usually the easiest. If you are fine with staying at SSR or eating a loss on an SSR contract if everyone tries to get out of their contracts if/when 7 month availability tightens up then that is an option you may be okay with. I just don't get the gamble myself. As the saying goes the juice just isn't worth the squeeze to me when there are other options out there. If it was SSR resale vs current Direct points as the only options then that would be a different story and even I would buy SSR. But there are a lot of other good options in a close enough price range.

As most members know, the cheapest views usually book first. So if you would normally book the cheapest view (even if it was a 1BR) but you end up having to book a more expensive view to get availability at 7 months, with a quick look that can range from an extra 54 up to 145 extra points for a week at the more expensive view(s) at Poly/VGF in the 1BR. If you have to use a bunch of extra points each time you stay like that, you may not end up saving anything, or maybe even spending more even with the cheap points. An extra 54 to 145 points each time and their dues can eat into that savings or the "extra" points you got by going with SSR very quickly. This difference will be less with the studios, and more with the 2BRs.

A member can buy the more expensive points even at VGF or Poly, but book the cheaper view room and still come out ahead. And with VGF or Poly you would get an extra 10 or 12 years. In 2054 you could sell the contract and get some money back when SSR members are left with nothing. And the whole time this member would always have the option of booking the better view if they wished, and wouldn't have to gamble on unknown long term 7 month availability.

It's multifactorial and every member has to make their choices.

Edit: Also some of the options actually have cheaper dues than SSR. Like BLT and Poly

I guess for those that don't have flexibility and want the cheapest room then, yes, it doesn't make sense. For those with flexibility, like 1 bedrooms and the best views (ie myself ) it makes sense

 

[Tatebeck]

I guess for those that don't have flexibility and want the cheapest room then, yes, it doesn't make sense. For those with flexibility, like 1 bedrooms and the best views (ie myself ) it makes sense

Yeah, the SSR SAP member has to be more flexible and then willing to stay at SSR if they strike out because the points themselves end up being less flexible.

 

[Girlstar30]

Yeah, the SSR SAP member has to be more flexible and then willing to stay at SSR if they strike out because the points are less flexible.

If i strike out too many times it's back to the drawing board