"That One"

[corndog]

Is that the new Republican tactic? Just take every valid objection by the other side and repeat it back.

Not being one, I don't know about the Republicans' tactics.

It is amusing, though, that any challenge to a position of yours is, per se, invalid.

 

[Mr Man]

That's what I kept thinking....actually what I thought was "That was demeaning, you old goat"

Most unintentionally funny post of the day.

Old Goats of America celebrate! We will not be forgotten....by our demeanor..... (huzzah)

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

I guess we disagree on the importance of this comment. I challenge you to name a presidential election in which the "tenor" was different from this one. Every presidential election is marred by smear tactics. You speak as if McCain was the first person to do this.

Weren't Democrats smearing president Bush as an idiot entitled drug addict in 2000 and then as an idiot, entitled drug addict warmonger in 2004? Didn't Bush swift-boat John Kerry? Didn't everyone smear Bill Clinton because of his extramarital affairs? Wasn't Al Gore smeared as a fat wooden statue who couldn't make people laugh if he had Letterman writing his jokes, and as a guy who dropped out of law school because he couldn't hack it, etc.? Come on, this is nothing new.

Good point. Eight years ago, then-Gov. Bush kicked the tar out of Sen. McCain during the 2000 primary season, with his surrogates spreading whispers of McCain's illegitimate child and Manchurian tendencies.

 

[Feralpeg]

So let me ask you - you are okay with a man who associates with an unrepentant domestic terrorist? You are okay with the fact that he listened to his pastor speak of racism and hatred for our country for 20 yrs? You are okay with a man who says are troops are air raiding and killing civilians? Why is this "mudslinging"? I happen to call it the "truth".

For John McCain's sake you'll be happy to see this end? John McCain doesn't need your pity. He's been through plenty. Last night he did just fine. He was tortured in Vietnam for 5 yrs....getting through a debate with the MOST LIBERAL senator in our country will not tire or weaken him dispite what many of you think or wish.

Yes, I am okay with it all because it has all been slanted and blown out of proportion. Obama was 8 years old when Ayers was involved in his anti-war activities. His only association with Ayers since has been on boards for organizations to promote education (whether they were successful or not is not the issue). Obama had nothing to do with Ayers anti-government activities.

I agree that I don't like what went on in Obama's church. But, I must say that I attended a church for many years with a pastor that I didn't really like. It was only after he refused to perform the marriage ceremony for a mixed race couple that I finally left the church. Sometimes, we get caught up in organizations that turn out to be out of line with our views. It can take awhile to figure that out. Obama has publicly announced that he is no longer a member of that church and does not condone Rev Wright's behavior.

If we want to bring up past issues on the candidates, McCain isn't exactly clean. I'd rather not go there.

As for the war comments, I'm afraid too much of that is true. I don't blame our soldiers. I fully support our troops. They are caught in a horrible position. I blame our leaders who have put them there. I don't believe we should be in Iraq. If we weren't there, the possibility of our troops killing innocents wouldn't exist.

As for McCain being tortured in Vietnam, I am not taking away from that at all. It was horrible. I know two men personally who were also POWs during Vietnam. One came back without a leg due to the infection he picked up from a wound that was not treated while he was a prisoner. Did you ever see the movie The Deerslayer? Well, it was based on fact. My other friend has never been the same since Vietnam. It was a horrible war!!! But, it is the past. Because he was tortured does not make him any more qualified to be POTUS. I respect him for what he went through. I do not respect his current position on the crisis facing this nation.

I stand by my previous assertions. He looked like a tired old man during the debate that just needs to have this thing end. Oh, and I never said I pitied the man. He knew what he was getting into when he made the decision to run for office. So did Obama. In my mind, it comes down to grace under fire. IMHO, Obama has handled it very well. I believe the whole thing is beginning to take its toll on McCain. That's my opinion and I stand by it.

 

[swandiverpatt]

What I heard and saw in the debate:

McCain practically quoted something that Obama said in the first debate (and I turned to my husband and he said the same thing). I can't remember what it was, but during the first debate McCain had found fault with it.

I was shocked by the insinuation that most Americans had not heard of Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac prior to this terrible economic slide. I think I yelled at the TV, "Yeah, we're all just a bunch of stupid idiots."

We started yelling every time McCain said, "My friends." -- I was thankful we weren't playing a drinking game.

And I, too, did not like McCain calling Obama "That one." He again in this debate seldom even looked at Obama. McCain looked like a tired, worn out old man ....

 

[castleview]

My grandparents always said "that one" and "this one" so I don't understand how this is disrespectful. Example: "Somebody put the cookies away before this one eats all of them". I actually found it affectionate.

Anyway, I can't believe everyone is saying that McCain was condescending by what he said, yet no one found picking on him about his age condescending.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

My grandparents always said "that one" and "this one" so I don't understand how this is disrespectful. Example: "Somebody put the cookies away before this one eats all of them". I actually found it affectionate.

Anyway, I can't believe everyone is saying that McCain was condescending by what he said, yet no one found picking on him about his age condescending.

If your mom came home and asked "Hey! Who broke the vase?" and ol' gammy pointed her thumb in your direction and muttered "That one.", I would hardly find it the height of affection.

 

[babytrees]

Most unintentionally funny post of the day.

Old Goats of America celebrate! We will not be forgotten....by our demeanor..... (huzzah)

your right I wasn't trying to be funny.....I also did it in my house where only my kids and pets could hear me.

Some of the things I said about both men can't be repeated here(mainly I wanted them to answer the questions and stick to the format both campaigns agreed to)....I can not wait until this political season is over. I HATE being in a swing state.

 

[DawnCt1]

My grandparents always said "that one" and "this one" so I don't understand how this is disrespectful. Example: "Somebody put the cookies away before this one eats all of them". I actually found it affectionate.

Anyway, I can't believe everyone is saying that McCain was condescending by what he said, yet no one found picking on him about his age condescending.

My grandparents did as well. I notice that my SIL's mom does the same thing when she is talking about her grandchild. It reminded me of my grandparents when she said it. I think its a generational thing and of course, much ado about nothing.

 

[akhenaten]

My grandparents always said "that one" and "this one" so I don't understand how this is disrespectful. Example: "Somebody put the cookies away before this one eats all of them". I actually found it affectionate.

Anyway, I can't believe everyone is saying that McCain was condescending by what he said, yet no one found picking on him about his age condescending.

that would not have been seen as affectionate in my home... i guess its what you are used too.

I missed obama "picking on" mccain about his age....could you let me know exactly when in the debate this occured??

 

[Brianne]

I fear repeating all that's already been said so I'll simply say this: it wasn't the words but the tone in which the words were said, that struck me.

It's something I've said to my kids before: if you say something like "I love you" with a smile on your face, it's taken differently than if you say "I love you" with a frown.

 

[transparant]

Yes, I am okay with it all because it has all been slanted and blown out of proportion. Obama was 8 years old when Ayers was involved in his anti-war activities. His only association with Ayers since has been on boards for organizations to promote education (whether they were successful or not is not the issue). Obama had nothing to do with Ayers anti-government activities.

I agree that I don't like what went on in Obama's church. But, I must say that I attended a church for many years with a pastor that I didn't really like. It was only after he refused to perform the marriage ceremony for a mixed race couple that I finally left the church. Sometimes, we get caught up in organizations that turn out to be out of line with our views. It can take awhile to figure that out. Obama has publicly announced that he is no longer a member of that church and does not condone Rev Wright's behavior.

If we want to bring up past issues on the candidates, McCain isn't exactly clean. I'd rather not go there.

As for the war comments, I'm afraid too much of that is true. I don't blame our soldiers. I fully support our troops. They are caught in a horrible position. I blame our leaders who have put them there. I don't believe we should be in Iraq. If we weren't there, the possibility of our troops killing innocents wouldn't exist.

So...let me just make sure I'm hearing you correctly??? You believe that my hero, and my godson is killing innocents? Keep your damn support. If that is the what you believe him to be doing - He honestly doesn't need or want any "support" like that.

 

[castleview]

that would not have been seen as affectionate in my home... i guess its what you are used too.

I missed obama "picking on" mccain about his age....could you let me know exactly when in the debate this occured??

I was talking about this entire campaign regarding McCain's age. It's been questioned constantly.

 

[Pooh's Pixie]

Not good.

crcormier: The kids in your siggie are adorable, I just had to say! That baby has the most pinchable cheeks!

...back to the debate!

 

[H.E. Pennypacker]

Really, is that anyway for a presidential candidate to refer to another candidate?

I'm not a fan of either McCain or Obama but that was just downright rude and not a good indicator of how McCain would treat leaders of other nations.

Get real. It's a non-issue. Once again we see how the liberal, socialist left can diffuse the real issue and concentrate on minutia. I'm not happy with McCain's performance last night, but it certainly has nothing to do with his "that one" comment. It's because he once again failed to take Obama to task on his flawed policies and misplaced blame.

 

[djm99]

I didn't have a problem with it. The issue is the big sows, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac; who suckled up and who didn't put them back in the pen. If there is a tinge of anger in "that one", is it deserved.

Who are you?

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

I would think that the resident righties would be more up in arms about McCain's additional $300 billion to bail out struggling subprime home owners on top of the $700 billion bailout bill that just passed...

If there's a thread about it, I'd love a little shove in that direction...purely for educational purposes I assure you.

 

[Goofyluver]

Get real. It's a non-issue. Once again we see how the liberal, socialist left can diffuse the real issue and concentrate on minutia. I'm not happy with McCain's performance last night, but it certainly has nothing to do with his "that one" comment. It's because he once again failed to take Obama to task on his flawed policies and misplaced blame.

Come on people!

Dance with me if you're a liberal socialist lefty!!!

 

[akhenaten]

Get real. It's a non-issue. Once again we see how the liberal, socialist left can diffuse the real issue and concentrate on minutia. I'm not happy with McCain's performance last night, but it certainly has nothing to do with his "that one" comment. It's because he once again failed to take Obama to task on his flawed policies and misplaced blame.

first of all...I am not a socialist..... and attitudes like yours are making me more liberal by the minute!! LOL

this thread to me is just a light conversation about the debate....
i have plenty of opinions about the issues !!!

 

[castleview]

If your mom came home and asked "Hey! Who broke the vase?" and ol' gammy pointed her thumb in your direction and muttered "That one.", I would hardly find it the height of affection.

Ok, maybe I saw it as "acknowledgement" that I existed...and I liked it!!!!