"That One"

[Laura]

The world was much better off with Saddam Hussein in charge of Iraq?

Did you read her post at all?

Overthrowing a dictator wasn't the reason we went in there. In fact, for a time, we were mighty friendly with Saddam when it was politically advantageous.

 

[TLSnell1981]

Did you read her post at all?

Overthrowing a dictator wasn't the reason we went in there. In fact, for a time, we were mighty friendly with Saddam when it was politically advantageous.

I read the post. There are a myriad of reasons why we went into Irag.

 

[Carly_Roach]

I'm loving that, rather than acting all fake-offended, Obama supporters are turning an insult into a saucy slogan, a cash cow and a nose-thumb to the guy who insulted Obama in the first place.

I love the one with the check boxes on the left. The caption is:

___ This one

___ That one

Guess which one's checked?

 

[TLSnell1981]

I'm loving that, rather than acting all fake-offended, Obama supporters are turning an insult

Oh, please..... OS are fake-offended over anything and everything.

 

[HonnyDipp]

I have started to feel sorry for Sen. McCain. He looked and sounded old, worn down, and more out of touch with reality than ever before. His rudeness was his attempt to identify with "his friends" all across America. Maybe some people admired that type of talk but I think most fairminded voters took it for what it was...a rude description mouthed by a tired and probably defeated man running for national public office. He seems to me to be lacking energy, both physically and mentally, and I fear all of the campaigning is catching up with him in a big way. I can only hope that Americans want a President who has the youth and energy to work on the tremendously huge problems facing our nation and the world today. I don't think Sen. McCain has it in him after listening to him and watching him the past couple weeks.

Excellent. You put it perfectly.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

The world was much better off with Saddam Hussein in charge of Iraq?

As sad and sick as it is, the world is full of "acceptable dictators", as the British ambassador in Afghanistan recently discussed in relation to Afghanistan. For more than a decade, Saddam was our kind of dictator, until he was rendered useless. Looking at the quick and dangerous rise to power in Iran since Hussein was deposed, on many occasions I've felt that the United States would have been far better of if we would have just left well enough alone. In my mind, it kind of goes part in parcel with not supporting the war.

 

[Laura]

I read the post. There are a myriad of reasons why we went into Irag.

We went into Iraq because of WMDs and oil, not because Saddam Hussein was so eeeevil.

 

[Feralpeg]

The world was much better off with Saddam Hussein in charge of Iraq?

No. Saddam Hussein deserved what he got. However, there are other places in this world right now where the people are being brutalized worse than they were under Hussein. I don't see us marching in there. You can tell yourself that the war is about humanity, but you're just kidding yourself. We have never gone to war for any reason other than economics. Sure, we always have a way to gloss over that and make it seem like we are doing it for the good of mankind. Look under the covers an you will see that it is always a matter of money.

I am not going to debate the war with anyone here. You are entitled to your views. I have mine. I won't change your mind and you, certainly, will not change mine. Like or not...I will be voting for Obama/Biden.

 

[disneyfan67]

I remember in the 1996 POTUS debates between Dole and Clinton and one thing stands out in my mind after reading this thread.

Just as the debate was starting Bob Dole brought up the point that back in the 1992 debates, Clinton did not properly refer to Bush 41 as President Bush and called him by his last name only. Bob Dole said he would not disrespect Clinton in the same way and would properly refer to him as President Clinton in the debate and the campaign trail.

It may sound silly now, but looking back it was a classy move on Mr Dole's part. As that generation of his fades away, it seems like a lot of the courtesies and the proper way of doing things, fades away with them. IMO, John McCain shouldn't have addressed Obama in that fashion, but I'll leave that for you folks to spin it the way you see it.

One last thought and this is how I feel.

As more time passes I come to realise that my vote for Mr. Dole that year was probably the one I'm most proud of. I don't care what anybody says about Bob Dole because he was a decent man in my book, a true war hero who bore the wounds and disfigurement of his WW2 service, for the rest of his life. There's just no comparison to what Mr. Dole did for this country and GWB doesn't even come close to measuring up to him.

 

[H.E. Pennypacker]

Hehe... but how does Pennypacker explain me, a pro-business moderate, focusing on the same thing?

Uninformed if, as a pro-business moderate, you actually think Obama's proposed tax policies are going to benefit businesses in this country.

 

[Master Mason]

We went into Iraq because of WMDs and oil, not because Saddam Hussein was so eeeevil.

If we went in for Oil, then why exactly did Oil prices double or so since that time? That was the line that was used by those opposed to the war when it started. It has proven to be as false as the WMD.

 

[Quiksilvr]

If we went in for Oil, then why exactly did Oil prices double or so since that time? That was the line that was used by those opposed to the war when it started. It has proven to be as false as the WMD.

I think that if the war had been about oil, it would have only been successful if we had taken the oil and used it ourselves (I'm not saying I advocate that. It would have been the same as Iraq invading Kuwait... pure conquest, which I oppose). Instead, we "liberated" a country and, in gratitude, that country opted to sell us their oil at highly inflated prices. How nice of them!

 

[Junebugwv]

Excellent. You put it perfectly.

Someone who actually served his country, was tortured by enemies, earned the Silver Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart, and Distinguished Flying Cross, dutifully served in the US Congress and Senate, is Ranking Member of the Senate Committee on Armed Services; Ranking Member and former Chairman of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation; and Member and former Chairman of the Senate Committee on Indian Affairs is a person who has the life experiences and character to face the challenge of securing our freedom in a terror-driven world as well as bolster our economy.

I would expect him to look older and more tired than an opponent who does not have the experience or wisdom to lead this nation. Sen. McCain is also strong enough to take the ridicule of those who mock his age.

 

[Tikitoi]

Really, is that anyway for a presidential candidate to refer to another candidate?

I'm not a fan of either McCain or Obama but that was just downright rude and not a good indicator of how McCain would treat leaders of other nations.

But that's the republican mccain for you. He's getting desparate. He knows he is losing. And republicans are nothing but bullys anyway.

 

[Master Mason]

And republicans are nothing but bullys anyway.

It's so nice of you to let me know I am a bully when you don't even know me.

 

[bicker]

Please don't put words in my mouth.

Doing so is the easiest way, though, of coming up with something to discredit.

 

[bicker]

Uninformed

Wrong, again! You just are having a tough day.

if, as a pro-business moderate, you actually think Obama's proposed tax policies are going to benefit businesses in this country.

Who said I believed that? Oh yeah, putting words in people's mouths. The easiest way of coming up with something to discredit. I remember now.

Maybe you should be more explicit by what you are referring to, in the future, when you make sweeping generalizations.

 

[bicker]

I would expect him to look older and more tired

And perhaps less physically able to withstand the rigors of an office that is known for remarkably aging its occupants.

 

[Island_Lauri]

To me "That one" sounds like the singular form of "Those people"

 

[Mr Man]

It's so nice of you to let me know I am a bully when you don't even know me.

Careful, your post may be perceived as being "tinged with bully-ism".