"That One"

[Quiksilvr]

I thought the "that one" remark was funny. I always find it amusing when politicians allow a small glimpse of what they really think to seep out into the public eye.

Re the respect for world leaders thing--I think you're really overstating it. This was an adversarial situation in which candidates are acting like competing sideshow barkers. That's a little different than a state dinner. A debate is a situation in which it can be (under the right circumstances) good to spew a little venom. When a pol actually has the guts to do it, I enjoy it. Maybe that's a little sadistic, but we've all got to have our vices. I'd love for Obama to climb down off the Ivory Tower for a few seconds and actually throw a decent punch. McCain's remark wasn't even all that good. The fact that I enjoyed it just goes to show how little the candidates have been giving us this year.

Also, are you really naive enough to think that most world leaders like and respect each other? I'm willing to bet that most world leaders don't like or respect President Bush but when he comes knocking they pretend they can at least stand his presence. And that's all it is, "my friends", pretense. I think McCain could do just as great of a job pretending to like other foreign leaders as Obama would. This was just a debate situation... not negotiations with a foreign power. Different rules for different situations.

 

[corndog]

I guess this just goes to prove that someone, somewhere, is always offended by something.

 

[bicker]

I thought the "that one" remark was funny. I always find it amusing when politicians allow a small glimpse of what they really think to seep out into the public eye.

It's only funny until you realize the ramifications of McCain's erratic nature "seeping out" when it really matters, i.e., when the United States is interacting with the world community.

I guess this just goes to prove that someone, somewhere, is always offended by something.

People will always be offended by overt disrespect.

 

[4cruisin]

It's only funny until you realize the ramifications of McCain's erratic nature "seeping out" when it really matters, i.e., when the United States is interacting with the world community.

People will always be offended by overt disrespect.

Ehh, Bicker, I don't always agree with you but this time you stated eloquently what I was thinking.

 

[islangrl]

I disagree with your assessment on the outcome of the election, but heck, we are more abrupt with each other on this board and yet we come back and "play again". As far as I know, none of us are running for president...except me. http://www.news3online.com/index.php?code=46X2Fcr231YSo8I53lm7

Staying out of the battle..for now. But I do have to say, Dawn, this is hilarious! I was totally rapt, until the end!

 

[akhenaten]

calling obama "that one" was incredibly disrespectful....

would anyone defending that statement like to be called "that one"... i doubt it!!
it was a glimpse of the real mccain.....
pitiful... just like his campaign of hatred and fear....

 

[Chicago526]

The nutty thing is, that McCain was on a roll until he said "that one". Had he just said "he did" or "Senator Obama", he'd have scored a point. Instead, all we're talking about is not the point he was trying to make, but how he said it. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!

 

[corndog]

People will always be offended by overt disrespect.

Yes, yes, I know. It's always a vicious personal attack to point out the record or position of a Democratic.

 

[bicker]

It is quite a bit disingenuous of you to write that given that we were talking about McCain calling Obama "that one". Why do you feel the need to distort what other posters are writing?

 

[akhenaten]

It is quite a bit disingenuous of you to write that given that we were talking about McCain calling Obama "that one". Why do you feel the need to distort what other posters are writing?

they have learned from the masters in the republican party....

 

[DawnCt1]

Staying out of the battle..for now. But I do have to say, Dawn, this is hilarious! I was totally rapt, until the end!

Someone posted it about me on the Dis over the weekend. I wish I could take credit for it, but it was from "nosoupforyou'.

 

[chisnpeke]

Prior to this huge mess, there are a lot of people who had never heard of Fannie or Freddy, or if they heard the name, they didn't see how it all affected them. I think he was making a point about how a formerly obscure entity for many people has affected them so profoundly.

People are spinning what he meant. He meant that prior to this whole mess, many people had probably never heard of Fannie May or Freddie Mac. I know I hadn't.

 

[Planogirl]

It's nice that these candidates have people available to explain what they "meant" to say. It's a shame that they just can't seem to say it themselves.

McCain clearly erred on more than one occasion during last night's debate. What he "meant" is all well and good but these are just opinions. Obama has certainly made mistakes too but last night he far outdid McCain, in other words he kept his act together while McCain floundered around.

 

[corndog]

It is quite a bit disingenuous of you to write that given that we were talking about McCain calling Obama "that one". Why do you feel the need to distort what other posters are writing?

No distortions necessary. The outrage is only because he called Obama on his vote. If McCain had said "That one is the smartest man ever born", nobody would have said one word about it. We all know that, despite any protestations to the contrary.

 

[akhenaten]

No distortions necessary. The outrage is only because he called Obama on his vote. If McCain had said "That one is the smartest man ever born", nobody would have said one word about it. We all know that, despite any protestations to the contrary.

not true....

 

[Quiksilvr]

It's only funny until you realize the ramifications of McCain's erratic nature "seeping out" when it really matters, i.e., when the United States is interacting with the world community.

People will always be offended by overt disrespect.

That's just it, I made the point that I don't think McCain would allow that to occur in a different context, e.g., in an interaction with a foreign dignitary.

This was a debate!

If you want to talk disrespect, how about all those Pakistanis that Obama disrespected by saying: "If we know bin Laden is in your country, and you won't do anything about it, we're coming into your country, killing him, and daring you to do something about it." I bet that feels nice... to have someone in another country (a) call you out and (b) threaten to send its military into your country.

Get off your high horse. "That one" was not a big deal. It was funny, get over it. I personally thought the Pakistan comment by Obama was also funny, because I'm pretty sure he wouldn't actually do it. He would need evidence like bin Laden's current mailing address in Karachi and a live video feed of bin Laden eating dinner with the president of Pakistan before he'd actually do anything. He's a lawyer. I'm a lawyer. I know how lawyers think. We hate doing anything without being absolutely, positively, 100% sure of being right or being successful (the two are not necessarily the same). Thus, Obama will never actually send troops into Pakistan to "take out" bin Laden without the approval of the Pakistani government and his "tough talk" is hilarious.

 

[4cruisin]

No distortions necessary. The outrage is only because he called Obama on his vote. If McCain had said "That one is the smartest man ever born", nobody would have said one word about it. We all know that, despite any protestations to the contrary.

Not true for me. I still would have found the reference to Senator Obama as
"that one" disrepectful and uncalled for. Again, it points to the mind of a man that is running for president and will be called upon to use "good judgement" and diplomacy constantly. If he can't peform well in a simple debate, how well would he perform under pressure in a serious situation dealing with other heads of state?

 

[Jennasis]

No distortions necessary. The outrage is only because he called Obama on his vote. If McCain had said "That one is the smartest man ever born", nobody would have said one word about it. We all know that, despite any protestations to the contrary.

Duh...McCain's whole purpose for using "THAT ONE" was to be derogatory, in the context he used last night. Had he used it the way you described, it would not have been derogatory. It isn't the words themselves, but the context in which they were used.

 

[corndog]

Duh...McCain's whole purpose for using "THAT ONE" was to be derogatory, in the context he used last night. Had he used it the way you described, it would not have been derogatory. It isn't the words themselves, but the context in which they were used.

Thank you for being honest.

 

[Jennasis]

Thank you for being honest.

...I try (sometimes I fail, but I swear I try).