Texas

[godisney14]

yep New York and New Jersey was doing it wrong in the beginning while Florida and Texas was doing it right. Now it’s the other way around. They need to learn from each state mistakes and what they did right.They all can learn and save lives and open the
Economy safely.

I’m confused.
What is it specifically that FL and TX were doing correctly as opposed to NY and NJ when their cases were high?

 

[kymom99]

I’m confused.
What is it specifically that FL and TX were doing correctly as opposed to NY and NJ when their cases were high?

I wondered the same. I think the reality is it took a bit longer for covid to take hold there

 

[RamblingMad]

yep New York and New Jersey was doing it wrong in the beginning while Florida and Texas was doing it right. Now it’s the other way around. They need to learn from each state mistakes and what they did right.They all can learn and save lives and open the
Economy safely.

This makes no sense. NY and NJ had far more cases from the start. The virus really hit the coastlines and then moved inward. NY and NJ had to learn on the fly how to deal with this virus. They made a lot of mistakes, but they had to learn as they went. FL and TX are lucky to have it hit later.

The problem is that FL, TX, and AZ are not actually following the guidance for reopening. They're reopening regardless of the cases. Remember this:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/openingamerica/
The states seeing a surge aren't following these guidelines.

 

[LuvOrlando]

So sad for the people of Texas.


Pointing a finger is pointless but things aren't looking great in our cities, in Pittsburgh in particular but the state is still pushing to open county by county.
PA unceremoniously split with the NE consortium.
Genuinely worried

 

[gwynne]

So sad for the people of Texas.


Pointing a finger is pointless but things aren't looking great in our cities, in Pittsburgh in particular but the state is still pushing to open county by county.
PA unceremoniously split with the NE consortium.
Genuinely worried

I think it's reasonable to point out this pandemic didn't hit everyone at the same time with the same intensity.
Pittsburgh is a wonderful city. I loved living there years ago. Hoping they can slow the spread and reduce their case numbers.

 

[LuvOrlando]

Me too

 

[AustinTink]

Oh, Texas, why can't you straighten up and fly right for even a month...

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/h...3HETefx4yWPUSnYvjoxuEaUNsEOYBRFj4eGTuDWKMoBPg

 

[Planogirl]

Oh, Texas, why can't you straighten up and fly right for even a month...

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/h...3HETefx4yWPUSnYvjoxuEaUNsEOYBRFj4eGTuDWKMoBPg

Not a surprise. There's an article that the bar owners plan to sue too. It's all a mess.

 

[godisney14]

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/ne...pitals-hit-100-base-ICU-capacity-15372256.php

Interesting...

 

[Planogirl]

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/ne...pitals-hit-100-base-ICU-capacity-15372256.php

Interesting...

Yes interesting and I'll just say that something smells a bit off.

 

[Disneyfan754321]

I am a parent of two 25 year olds.. all I can say is darn millennials. I tell him Tarrant/Dallas county has mask requirements. They still go out with out mask and none of their friends wear mask.
The TX governor says police are not allowed to write citations for lack of mask so these young adults are bucking the system because the local police just tell them they have to leave.

 

[HeatherC]

I am a parent of two 25 year olds.. all I can say is darn millennials. I tell him Tarrant/Dallas county has mask requirements. They still go out with out mask and none of their friends wear mask.
The TX governor says police are not allowed to write citations for lack of mask so these young adults are bucking the system because the local police just tell them they have to leave.

So frustrating. Until they know someone sick and dying they just don’t care. They all think they are invincible but fail to see how their actions affect others. Maddening.

And I feel your frustration because my kids are in their 20’s too. Luckily, here everyone is wearing a mask so it’s not an issue. Plus, they also see their grandparents weekly and would be devastated if they passed it on to them.

 

[Starport Seven-Five]

Oh, Texas, why can't you straighten up and fly right for even a month...

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/h...3HETefx4yWPUSnYvjoxuEaUNsEOYBRFj4eGTuDWKMoBPg

It gets worse the more you read. They don't even plan to require face masks for attendees.

 

[LuvOrlando]

20 somethings are not wearing masks here either, none of my kids friends do although mine do and they tell me flat out it's only because of me. They have been to grad parties, a wedding after party & Long Branch Beach NJ & no masks to be found other than on their faces. It's not going to end well.

As for the going ahead with the pep rallies, is it just me or does this seem really small & indulgent considering the OLYMPICS were cancelled - the OLYMPICS were cancelled to save lives but lets wear a shirt and cheer for, well what? No matter who wins my life doesn't change so the only feeling I get is mad.

 

[gwynne]

It gets worse the more you read. They don't even plan to require face masks for attendees.

In the old days conventioneers would come home with buttons, hats and posters. With the high risk of Covid-19 they have really upped their game.

 

[Starport Seven-Five]

As for the going ahead with the pep rallies, is it just me or does this seem really small & indulgent considering the OLYMPICS were cancelled - the OLYMPICS were cancelled to save lives but lets wear a shirt and cheer for, well what? No matter who wins my life doesn't change so the only feeling I get is mad.

If the IOC was headquartered in the US it probably would have went forward. We seem to be the only nation that can't wrap our heads around making sacrifices to beat this.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

If the IAC was headquartered in the US it probably would have went forward. We seem to be the only nation that can't wrap our heads around making sacrifices to beat this.

It's more complicated than that and you're misrepresenting the situation.

If you remember the rescheduling of the Olympics went back and forth between ...no..yes..maybe..ok yes we're going to do it but now we need to figure out if it has be at the end of the year of within a year and the IOC was resistant to rescheduling it or canceling it. AND a big reason why it was rescheduled is countries were going to stop their athletes from going. Hard to have Olympics without athletes. I don't think we should make everything out to be "well in the US we wouldn't get our act together" without realizing other countries aren't some benevolent entities either. If Japan still had all the countries' approval for their athletes to still go they may have waffled more.

For a bit more information in-depth (because I was typing off of memory and paraphrasing) you're welcome to read a bit more about the rescheduling of the Olympics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Summer_Olympics

 

[LuvOrlando]

I don't think it's very complicated at all.

The people who are pushing ahead with ANY public gatherings will be morally responsible for the outcome because, as authority figures, they are making a statement that it's ok. Now, one could argue it's a free country and all but thats only ethical if EVERYONE has the same access to information and care. This is plainly not true so responsibility is not shared.

As for the Olympics, it was stopped, the reasons aren't as important as the result.

 

[Starport Seven-Five]

It's more complicated than that and you're misrepresenting the situation.

If you remember the rescheduling of the Olympics went back and forth between ...no..yes..maybe..ok yes we're going to do it but now we need to figure out if it has be at the end of the year of within a year and the IOC was resistant to rescheduling it or canceling it. AND a big reason why it was rescheduled is countries were going to stop their athletes from going. Hard to have Olympics without athletes. I don't think we should make everything out to be "well in the US we wouldn't get our act together" without realizing other countries aren't some benevolent entities either. If Japan still had all the countries' approval for their athletes to still go they may have waffled more.

For a bit more information in-depth (because I was typing off of memory and paraphrasing) you're welcome to read a bit more about the rescheduling of the Olympics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Summer_Olympics

There have been multiple Olympics held while nations were boycotting the games. Most notable were 1980/1984:

In 1980 and 1984, the Cold War opponents boycotted each other's Games. The United States and sixty-five other countries boycotted the Moscow Olympics in 1980 because of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. This boycott reduced the number of nations participating to 80, the lowest number since 1956.[182] The Soviet Union and 15 other nations countered by boycotting the Los Angeles Olympics of 1984. Although a boycott led by the Soviet Union depleted the field in certain sports, 140 National Olympic Committees took part, which was a record at the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Games

My comment was admittedly a bit tongue in cheek but it comes from my increasing level of annoyance by the stupidity we are seeing inside the US regarding this. Our priorities are misaligned, states are running the response in completely different ways due to the power vacuum from the federal level, and the choices being made are resulting in the hardship dragging out far longer than necessary. The EU is at 1/10th of the new cases the US is at now and there is no reason we couldn't be there too.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

There have been multiple Olympics held while nations were boycotting the games. Most notable were 1980/1984:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Games

My comment was admittedly a bit tongue in cheek but it comes from my increasing level of annoyance by the stupidity we are seeing inside the US regarding this. Our priorities are misaligned, states are running the response in completely different ways due to the power vacuum from the federal level, and the choices being made are resulting in the hardship dragging out far longer than necessary. The EU is at 1/10th of the new cases the US is at now and there is no reason we couldn't be there too.

A boycott is not the same as a public health crisis where countries are saying "we don't want to put our athletes and our country at risk". Now we have had several Olympics cancelled due to wars. We didn't have winter Olympics until after the 1918 flu pandemic. That would have been interesting to compare to now.

Respectfully I see no tongue in cheek about your comment at all. You can be frustrated, rightfully so, about how we are handling the situation. It's entirely different to portray a situation, like the Olympics, as if there was this immediate outcry for public safety concern at the IOC level and so long as it was headquartered in the U.S. all would be gravy (and I'm not sure I would joke about that but that's purely my opinion). In reality hesitance to cancel or postpone such a large global event (no easy feat nor light decision) existed and it wasn't as if public safety was the #1 importance. I understand where you're coming from though