teen parenting ideas, please

WINTER

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Nver had trouble with my daughter before. Good Christian family. She became a freshman and listens to bad music does poorly grade-wise and now I find out that she has been lying to me. Our rules are she doesn't ride with other people yet. Twice she has said she is staying with a friend who she has named and I have found yet she wasn't with that person at all. Anyone with similar situation:confused3
 
I don't have teens, yet, and I dread dealing with situations you described.

When I was a teen, I llied to my parents about where I was going and who I was with numerous times. But I never did anything heinous or terrible, and I turned out o.k. I think they probably knew I was lying on more than one occasion, but they also knew they had taught me well, and hoped I would make good choices. For the most part, I did.

Now if I had gotten caught, I would have been grounded for eternity.

Denae
 
Unfortunately, I went through similar stuff with my oldest DS. He was also raised in a Christian home, had the kind of friends who were positive influences, homeschooled, took music lessons, etc. Some how I had the idea that all that protected him from making bad choices :confused3 It was a hard lesson for me to learn that he not only could make his own choices, some of them were 180-degrees against MY choices. I didn't know it,but we were in for a rough ride.

Without going into all the sordid details, i will tell you that DH & I decided to present a united front. When our son lied to us & got caught,he lost privileges. We gave him opportunites to rebuild trust. When he defied us & shouted bad words , he lost more privileges. We tried to continue to show him love while we drew our lines in the sand...When he became unmanageable & threatening, he lost even more privileges. He even lost the use of his room (and all his electronics)and had to bunk with his mentally handicapped little brother! Eventually he understood that we could hold out longer than he could.

It was a very difficult 5yrs for us and I understand how a child like this can knock you off-balance. I never saw it coming. DS was always such a good boy. But somewhere in his teens he lost his way. I think he was trying to stretch his wings, but he was doing it in all the wrong places and with all th wrong people. The one constant in his life was the love of his family and no matter what he did or said, we would reply with "I love you". I wish you the best with your daughter :grouphug:

May I tell you how it all turned out? :goodvibes This man-child is now 20. He works, directs theater, & writes music. He is kind & loving to his brother & sister. He runs errands for me without complaint and pays rent to his dad. He even wrote me a long letter of apology for all the years of difficulty and asked for forgiveness. Looking back, he says that he must have gone temporarily insane because he doesn't know why he acted that way. I say, just wait 'til you have kids of your own.:flower3:
 
I have had my own issues but different ones than yours (well, except for the grades).

The worst to me seems to be the lying and saying she is somewhere when she is not.

I will tell you, I do everything HUMANLY possible to ensure my DD doesn't do this. I cannot control her 100% without locking her up. But if she is spending the night out, I contact the parent, I ask what they will be doing, I ask if there will be a parent at home. I also explain that I don't allow my DD to ride in cars with teenage drivers (some of her friends have older brothers). There have been one or two occasions when I had to call off the "sleepover" because a parent admitted that they wouldn't be there or that they were allowing a 16 year old cousin to drive the girls around. Nope. No way.

So, how far are you going to check out what your daughter is doing?
 

The more you push them the more they will rebel, plain and simple. Like all things in moderation.... . I find that kids, given reasonable boundaries growing up, grow up to be responsible people. Kids given too much freedom or not enough freedom are the adults that can't function in society. They are the kids you find parting too hard in college, etc.

I think a lot of parents confuse discipline with control. The more you try to control your child, the more they are going to rebel. It is human nature to want to make your own decisions and by taking that ability away they are going to find ways around that. Again, giving them TOO much responsibility is also not good because they become overwhelmed.

Kids also have a pretty good radar for gravitating towards kids like them. DS14 had a 'friend' who I thought was a nice kid. He was always very polite at our house and didn't do anything to cause me to think otherwise. DS stopped wanting to play with him and I kept pushing him to play with him. He finally told me that this boy was very mean and was always calling other kids names, etc. From that point on I decided that I would let my kids decide who were the nice kids. My son was 5 years old when this happened and while they have had a few friends I haven't cared for, it only took them about 2 weeks to figure out that these were not the kids they should be hanging around, coming to the decision on their own.

By making all the decisions for your children you are preventing them from learning how to make good decisions. Kids don't all of the sudden become responsible, it is a gradual process that starts when they are infants/toddlers and letting them choose between having cheese or crackers for a snack to picking out their own clothes to figuring out what friends the want in school and so on.
 
Well, I don't know if you'd welcome my perspective since I don't live in a "Christian" home, but my values are as solid as anyone's.

I've had major problems with my oldest child -- he's 16 now. Basically, I keep a fairly tight reign, but the key for us is consistency. He knows the consequences will be pretty harsh when he messes up. He went through a long and restrictive grounding last year that really sent the message that I meant business. He's tried us a few times since then, but nothing major, and each time I follow through with an appropriately long grounding.
 
Golfgal speaks very true words.

Part of the nature of the beast with teenagers is rebellion. I agree that the more they are 'controlled' the more they will rebel. But at the same time you have to have and enforce boundaries. The other thing is, teenagers WILL lie to you. That does NOT make it OK.

I will pass along to you the words of my now 17 yo DD. She went through a period of time in her life when her grades were horrid, it seemed I didn't approve of any of her friends, and it was not uncommon for her NOT to tell me the truth. I had no faith that she would come through teenhood OK. There were other issues that I won't get into here. It wound up being a power struggle between the two of us. Lots of yelling, lots of stress for mom, and for her.
She told me about a year ago that "The more you try and MAKE a teenager behave a certain, the more they WILL behave that [undesirable] way, simply to spite you. It's the way we are." This teenager is now an honor student, a leader in clubs at school and in the drama department, and still holding true to her True Love Waits vows and her Drug Free Youth contract. Has she made mistakes?? Oh, yeah - and we went through a period of about 4 years where I thought I'd never make it, and neither would she....

Your teenager is not going to learn to swim if she's not thrown in the pool. You have to let your kid make mistakes before they begin to learn from them. We as parents are doing a horrible injustice to our kids by sheltering them and protecting them from all the "bad stuff" out there. If you're having trouble coming up with what seems to be effective methods of discipline, try the "Parenting With Love And Logic" books and there's a great book out there called "Yes, Your Teenager IS Crazy". Gives lots of insight into the teen psyche.

Although the drop in grades can be a red flag for other problems, it is best NOT to overreact - but if you can, get to the bottom of things. Consequences, not control!! Take away priviledges, such as coming and going (previously referred to as being grounded), remain calm when they're yelling at you (they HATE that!), be consistent, and be loving!

This too, shall pass.

Good luck!
 
I agree with the previous posters. The only thing I have to add is that it is essential that you and your spouse present a UNITED FRONT to your daughter in regards to any "consequences" imposed for inappropriate behavior/grades. If you don't, your teen will learn very quickly how to "play" one parent against the other and it can negatively affect your marriage as well as the family dynamics.

Good luck! Mine are 19 and almost 17 and while I love them more than life itself, they can be very challenging to raise at times.
 


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