Teen Mom

[starrzone]

Well if they make that much. Then who cares if one of them gets a **** job. But why make Maci look like she's broke. Now it makes sense as to why she quit her job for the summer.

I was wondering that; she's still going to college right? I mean, when I lived at home and had student loans, working part-time, I could barely scrape by at college. She's a single mom with a pretty darn nice apartment, and she "took a break" from working in the summer! Oh, well...it IS a TV show, and I really like Maci

 

[simba20]

One thing that bugs me about this season so far, is how Ryan's mom is so on Ryan to go after Maci for joint custody or the fact that Maci has Kyle living with her. She moved back to Chattanooga, and yes, Kyle did come with her, but relationships move on and people do start up new ones. It really bugs me how much Ryan's mom speaks about how "bentley doesn;t need so many men comign in and out of his life/home." Ummm, Maci has now been with Kyle for quite some time, I don't see her "hooking up" with men by the dozen. If Ryan's mom would watch the show, she would also see how much Maci factors Bentley into her relationship with Kyle....she broke up with Kyle for a bit, becasue Bentley was a factor (not a negative one, she wanted to do what was best for him).

However, I do have to say that with Maci once again dropping her classes she is showing a bit of immaurity. I understand what it is like to be in school and miss your child (heack, I'm a 35 year old grad student who has a hard time balancing schoolwork with family time), but she needs to remember why she is there. If she's havign money issues, then dropping her classload down to one or two classes at a time will allow her to spend time with bentley and work possibly. If she's getting Financial Aid, then dropping her classes will come back to bite her in the butt (trust me, I know).

 

[Luvmy4boys]

I also hope Ryan's mom is watching this so she can see what a jerk her son is. Does he have a job?

 

[cornflake]

Ryan has a job, Maci is the one sitting on her orange butt doing nothing - she's spent two years in community college and has racked up 8 credits after withdrawing from three semesters worth of classes and flunking two classes outright. She's taken every summer "off" so she can sit around doing nothing, she moved to chase a guy then moved back and now they're both unemployed and uneducated.

Hate Maci.

Ryan needs to get their custody agreement looked at by a judge so he can secure 50/50, stop having to pay her support and stop her from pulling that 'can I take him on your day? Can I? Can I? Why not, your reason can't be good? Can I? No? Well, I'll just take him anyway' crap.

I didn't know there was a thread on this show here!

 

[morethananyonex]

Ryan has a job, Maci is the one sitting on her orange butt doing nothing - she's spent two years in community college and has racked up 8 credits after withdrawing from three semesters worth of classes and flunking two classes outright. She's taken every summer "off" so she can sit around doing nothing, she moved to chase a guy then moved back and now they're both unemployed and uneducated.

Hate Maci.

Ryan needs to get their custody agreement looked at by a judge so he can secure 50/50, stop having to pay her support and stop her from pulling that 'can I take him on your day? Can I? Can I? Why not, your reason can't be good? Can I? No? Well, I'll just take him anyway' crap.

I didn't know there was a thread on this show here!

Seriously, I don't understand how so many people are still on Team Maci. Not even MTV's editing can cover up her actions anymore.

 

[disney_mommy]

These shows are filmed way in advance, so she doesn't see what we see. I agree that she is the one egging him on about custody and Maci and all that.

Amber is such a whiny baby. Gary is trying to be there for her and support her and all she does is whine and yell at him. I feel sorry for him. He's so blind to her crap.

 

[castmember19]

I am another person on Team Ryan. I just can't stand Maci... Granted, she is a good mom, I just can't stand the way she seems to want to play house with Kyle. I think the situation with Bentley's birthday/Halloween changed how I felt about Maci. And now MTV editing wants me to believe that next week she's going to want to have Kyle's baby... Why am I not surprised?

Farrah is my favorite, which says a lot about the other moms.

 

[aaarcher86]

I was definitely disappointed when Macy pulled the 'I just want 2 more hours' thing and took some of Ryan's time away. That aggravates the heck out of me. I don't like Ryan, but he was totally right when he said she did the exact same thing on Bentley's birthday that he was doing for Halloween. I do hope he gets their agreement approved by a judge so that kind of stuff stops happening. It isn't fair to do that regardless of which parent it is.

 

[DVCisME]

Ryan has a job, Maci is the one sitting on her orange butt doing nothing - she's spent two years in community college and has racked up 8 credits after withdrawing from three semesters worth of classes and flunking two classes outright. She's taken every summer "off" so she can sit around doing nothing, she moved to chase a guy then moved back and now they're both unemployed and uneducated.

Hate Maci.

Ryan needs to get their custody agreement looked at by a judge so he can secure 50/50, stop having to pay her support and stop her from pulling that 'can I take him on your day? Can I? Can I? Why not, your reason can't be good? Can I? No? Well, I'll just take him anyway' crap.

I didn't know there was a thread on this show here!

I think Maci was stating than when she dropped her classes she had 8 credits the current semester.

Ryan stated, while at the lawyer, that he has been working full time for two months. What was he doing prior? Ryan stated that Bentley has his own room but it seemed he sleeps on the couch. He did not seem to have the desire to persue a legal agreement. It seemed that was what his mother wanted. I also failed to see Ryan protest Maci taking Bentley from the birthday party to her mom's. He just walked away. Ryan also was shown walking in from work and not even acknowledging Bentley.

Can a legal agreement state whether one party or the other can live with other people, as Ryan's mom suggested? I also thought it was weird that his mom asked if they would ever get together again.

Farrah's story is kind of stretched to the limit, in my opinion. Her mom seems to be the primary caregiver to Sophia.

Amber is a trainwreck. If she was so upset about not having Leah she should have been at the other apartment setting it up.

 

[disney_mommy]

Farrah's story is kind of stretched to the limit, in my opinion. Her mom seems to be the primary caregiver to Sophia.

Amber is a trainwreck. If she was so upset about not having Leah she should have been at the other apartment setting it up.

I agree about Farrah - we've seen her mourn enough. And if I have to see her doing that weird scrunched face/eyes closed/mouth stretched out thing one more time, I'm going to hurt somebody.

That's all I could think when I was watching Amber last night - get up off your butt and do something. Don't lay there and talk about how bad you have it and how much you miss Leah. Do something about it.

 

[jrmasm]

I don't think Maci is perfect but I do think that Ryan is pursuing a legal agreement for 2 reasons:

1) to stick it to Maci
2) his mom is pushing him to do it


I really don't think Ryan cares one way or another about custody of Bentley.

 

[cornflake]

I think Maci was stating than when she dropped her classes she had 8 credits the current semester.

Ryan stated, while at the lawyer, that he has been working full time for two months. What was he doing prior? Ryan stated that Bentley has his own room but it seemed he sleeps on the couch. He did not seem to have the desire to persue a legal agreement. It seemed that was what his mother wanted. I also failed to see Ryan protest Maci taking Bentley from the birthday party to her mom's. He just walked away. Ryan also was shown walking in from work and not even acknowledging Bentley.

Can a legal agreement state whether one party or the other can live with other people, as Ryan's mom suggested? I also thought it was weird that his mom asked if they would ever get together again.

Farrah's story is kind of stretched to the limit, in my opinion. Her mom seems to be the primary caregiver to Sophia.

Amber is a trainwreck. If she was so upset about not having Leah she should have been at the other apartment setting it up.

She said she had 8 credits. If she were talking about her current semester, she wouldn't have had them yet, she'd have been taking them and as we saw, she again dropped everything.

Her first semester, when she was living with her parents, she dropped all her classes because she was too "busy" with Bentley, though she was living at home with her and Ryan's parents willing to babysit and Ryan himself there.

Then she tried online classes and dropped those because... of Bentley.

Then recently we saw her get last semester's grades - she had taken four classes and failed two (like F failed, so no credits there). This semester, she just dropped everything - again. Again blaming Bentley though she now has no job, the four grandparents, Ryan with custody 2-3 days per week and unemployed Kyle sitting around. How Maci is not able to manage community college - and remedial classes at that, as we've seen - is beyond me.

Maci is, as Ryan said when she dropped the first semester, lazy as ____. I thought he was being unfair at the time, now I see he knew her well.

She sits around doing nothing but fawning after her bf. Neither of them can even be bothered to cook - we've seen them feeding that kid those frozen peanut butter and jelly things that continue to amaze me with their existance, and toaster french toast. They can't be bothered to do anything with the kid - this episode she was all 'oh mah gawd Bentley, you peed your pants!' then busted out 'is that why you were saying pee pee before?' Way to potty train. Also good job on breaking him of the pacifier habit. They can't be bothered to get jobs, and when Bentley went to Ryan's this past episode, Maci's reaction to his leaving was that she was bored and "this is stupid," now that he wasn't there. Gee, Maci, I have several ideas of how you might cure your boredom - get off your orange butt and do something!

Ryan didn't have a job because he was laid off from his previous job and was unemployed for a period of time. When they were first on 16&, Ryan had a good job, he was sent for an out-of-state training seminar by his employer, his own apartment, his own vehicle, etc. Maci moved into his place.

He was laid off. Presumably he's been looking for a job as he found one and started a couple months ago (in show time). Maci did office work for her father and bartended for a hot minute and since then, she's sat around. She has no room to talk about Ryan, imo.

As for the couch thing, I think Bentley naps there, not sleeps there in general.

Ryan protested her taking Bentley twice, for extended periods, once by the car and once at the party. When she would not stop and eventually just said she'd take him regardless, Ryan gave up and walked off.

Judges can absolutely dictate that parents can't live with a non-spousal partner, yep. Given Maci's behaviour (the running off to chase Kyle with no notice), it'd seem fairly likely Ryan could get it added.

 

[Disneychix]

She sits around doing nothing but fawning after her bf. Neither of them can even be bothered to cook - we've seen them feeding that kid those frozen peanut butter and jelly things that continue to amaze me with their existance, and toaster french toast. They can't be bothered to do anything with the kid - this episode she was all 'oh mah gawd Bentley, you peed your pants!' then busted out 'is that why you were saying pee pee before?' Way to potty train. Also good job on breaking him of the pacifier habit. They can't be bothered to get jobs, and when Bentley went to Ryan's this past episode, Maci's reaction to his leaving was that she was bored and "this is stupid," now that he wasn't there. Gee, Maci, I have several ideas of how you might cure your boredom - get off your orange butt and do something!

Ryan didn't have a job because he was laid off from his previous job and was unemployed for a period of time. When they were first on 16&, Ryan had a good job, he was sent for an out-of-state training seminar by his employer, his own apartment, his own vehicle, etc. Maci moved into his place.

He was laid off. Presumably he's been looking for a job as he found one and started a couple months ago (in show time). Maci did office work for her father and bartended for a hot minute and since then, she's sat around. She has no room to talk about Ryan, imo.

Judges can absolutely dictate that parents can't live with a non-spousal partner, yep. Given Maci's behaviour (the running off to chase Kyle with no notice), it'd seem fairly likely Ryan could get it added.

Wow, do you know Ryan or something? I don't get how you can totally be on his side.
First, they have Bentely an equal amount of time according to their agreement. I think Maci said she gets him maybe one more night? So why is it only MACI's responsibility to get the kid off the paci?
Second-almost everytime they have shown Maci dropping off or someone coming to pick up Bentley it's been ryan's mother or father. Where is Ryan?
Third-I don't remember the specifics but I'm fairly certain that Ryan was not just 'laid off' and really looking for another job. I seem to remember both Maci and his parents begging him to go look for a job.

Maci doesn't need a job because she is getting paid by MTV. Who cares if she drops out of college? Ryan didn't go to college either!

And I have never heard of any judge making a judgement on who is allowed to live with the mother. Maybe if she was living with a criminal-you seriously can't argue that Kyle isn't a good influence on that child. I didn't see Ryan showing the kid how to pee on the potty. I've never seen Ryan give that child any food or put him to bed. Ryan is the one who can't get his own place-seriously! Why the heck is he living at home?

I'm not a fan of how the last show portrayed Maci but the girl does have money now from doing this show-she doesn't need to get a job, this is her 'job'.

 

[cornflake]

Wow, do you know Ryan or something? I don't get how you can totally be on his side.
First, they have Bentely an equal amount of time according to their agreement. I think Maci said she gets him maybe one more night? So why is it only MACI's responsibility to get the kid off the paci?
Second-almost everytime they have shown Maci dropping off or someone coming to pick up Bentley it's been ryan's mother or father. Where is Ryan?
Third-I don't remember the specifics but I'm fairly certain that Ryan was not just 'laid off' and really looking for another job. I seem to remember both Maci and his parents begging him to go look for a job.

Maci doesn't need a job because she is getting paid by MTV. Who cares if she drops out of college? Ryan didn't go to college either!

And I have never heard of any judge making a judgement on who is allowed to live with the mother. Maybe if she was living with a criminal-you seriously can't argue that Kyle isn't a good influence on that child. I didn't see Ryan showing the kid how to pee on the potty. I've never seen Ryan give that child any food or put him to bed. Ryan is the one who can't get his own place-seriously! Why the heck is he living at home?

I'm not a fan of how the last show portrayed Maci but the girl does have money now from doing this show-she doesn't need to get a job, this is her 'job'.

They don't have him equal time. The agreement they made at the mediators had Maci having him 9 days out of every two weeks, Ryan has him five days. So Ryan gets 10 days a month.

I think it's Maci's responsibility to get him off the pacifier because it's Maci who made a giant stink about him using the pacifier and kept telling Ryan in that snotty tone that he had to not let Bentley have it because she, Maci, had decided he shouldn't. See Bentley now.

Ryan is working - when Ryan's parents picked Bentley up this recent episode (when his dad came to the door and then said 'Mimi' was in the truck and Bentley said 'oooh!') they went home and then Ryan came in from work all filthy.

Ryan was laid off according to the show. The only job thing I remember was when his dad set up the meeting with the guy owned the trucking school - he told Ryan he should go to trucking school and Ryan didn't want to because he didn't want to drive a truck long distances and because the school cost money and it wasn't a guarantee of a job.

I think Ryan does have a degree of some kind, either an Associate's or a technical degree. He was older than Maci when they met, with his own apartment, etc.

I assume he's currently at home because he was unemployed and paying child support, which doesn't leave much for housing and food.

Maci needs to go to college and get a job because she's not going to have MTV paying her way forever and if she's too lazy to do it NOW, I can't imagine she's going to start up later - and she'll have missed out on years of work history and etc. Girl is lazy and dumb as a fencepost. I think a good parent makes sure to provide for their kid and she's just lazing around doing nothing to ensure his future.

I don't think Kyle is anything much - he wouldn't change a diaper in the last episode, he didn't cook, what's he good for for Bentley? We have seen Ryan caring for Bentley, we don't see that much of him to begin with, especially when Maci had moved.

As for the judge - they absolutely will dictate that no non-spouse live with the child. It's not rare, and Ryan doesn't have to prove anything about Kyle in particular, it's a blanket thing, to prevent people from moving in bf or gf after bf or gf which is disruptive and can be traumatic to the child. Given Maci's evil little propensity to bash Ryan in front of and to Bentley (Ryan has done the same), and go on nonstop about Kyle being "more of a father" (though he wouldn't change a diaper), and constantly tell Bentley to express affection toward Kyle, I can certainly see her doing the same with the next guy.

 

[DVCisME]

The Marci -Ryan arguement seems like it could go on and on, as I'm sure it could in any custody agreement.

I must have misunderstood Maci dropping her classes. I thought she dropped 2 of 4 meaning she was still enrolled for 8 credits that semester. I have no prior recollection of her college education, except that she failed something.

I personally just don't see Ryan doing much, could be the editing. But if that was one of my children and someone said they wanted more time (for Halloween) and I had custody I would have fought harder. And for Bentley's birthday I would have seen what Maci's plans were prior to the day. If I remember corectly he didn't even say happy birthday to him.
I have never been in a situation of split custody so maybe it is different.

Also did Ryan say it was "Ryan's choo-choo" on the last episode? I didn't catch it and thought that was what he said.

 

[hereyago]

I"ve never been Team Ryan, and I do really think his mom should honestly butt out: oh Ryan you don't want Bently to have alot of men in Bentley's life, really? let's see, Ryan had at least 1 girlfriend that we have seen and Maci has Kyle, so right now they are even. And it may back fire, let's say the judge says no living with someone not a spouse-which i doubt unless the child is in harms' way but say if the judge ordered that, now let's say Ryan moves out of mommy and daddy's house (does he not get paid for being on the show?) and he wants to live with someone, oops can't do it cause that goes againts the judges' ruling.

And Ryan: at the birthday party, he lied to his parents and didnt tell them Maci had invited him to go along with them trick or treating, so that helped instigate more stuff.

It did burn my bisquits about her dropping her classes. and I honestly hate seeing a young girl or guy think they can't be alone for sometime without someone being in their life. And i thought she needed some backbone when Bently wanted things, Kyle was right there and she was trying to study. Wasn't thrilled about the let's have a baby thing to Kyle-girl please don't go that route, you all ready have 1 kid by 1 guy you weren't married to,look how that turned out.

On to Farrah: ok I have a question: in a few episodes back she got a thing from Social Security saying Sophia wasn't going to get any from Derek's death because according to his mom , Derek denied she was his or something to that effect, big whoop, a dna proves it, what is up with that?

 

[cornflake]

I"ve never been Team Ryan, and I do really think his mom should honestly butt out: oh Ryan you don't want Bently to have alot of men in Bentley's life, really? let's see, Ryan had at least 1 girlfriend that we have seen and Maci has Kyle, so right now they are even. And it may back fire, let's say the judge says no living with someone not a spouse-which i doubt unless the child is in harms' way but say if the judge ordered that, now let's say Ryan moves out of mommy and daddy's house (does he not get paid for being on the show?) and he wants to live with someone, oops can't do it cause that goes againts the judges' ruling.

And Ryan: at the birthday party, he lied to his parents and didnt tell them Maci had invited him to go along with them trick or treating, so that helped instigate more stuff.

It did burn my bisquits about her dropping her classes. and I honestly hate seeing a young girl or guy think they can't be alone for sometime without someone being in their life. And i thought she needed some backbone when Bently wanted things, Kyle was right there and she was trying to study. Wasn't thrilled about the let's have a baby thing to Kyle-girl please don't go that route, you all ready have 1 kid by 1 guy you weren't married to,look how that turned out.

On to Farrah: ok I have a question: in a few episodes back she got a thing from Social Security saying Sophia wasn't going to get any from Derek's death because according to his mom , Derek denied she was his or something to that effect, big whoop, a dna proves it, what is up with that?

Re: the Farah SS thing. The DNA did prove Derek was the father and SS accepts that's th case - you can see it in the letter she holds up. However, the requirements to receive the $ aren't just genetics - the person in question must have supported the child in question while alive, to make the child eligible for continued support.

As Sophia wasn't born when he'd died, he'd have had to have demonstrated some intent to provide the support which, again according to the letter, is apparently shown by making paternity notorious - telling people he was indeed the father. As he apparently denied such or didn't mention it, SS says he didn't make it notorious, which shows no intent to support, hence she can't claim the benefit.

Had Sophia been born and Farrah taken him to court (as, despite her rosy retro glasses she had told him she wanted him entirely out of her life, she theoretically could've) and the court established paternity and ordered support payments if she had more custody, then Sophia would qualify because the support was there and had been removed. They seem to look at it like no support was there or intended and thus who knows what would have happened so she's not entitled to it. *shrug* That's the way it's set up.

But if that was one of my children and someone said they wanted more time (for Halloween) and I had custody I would have fought harder. And for Bentley's birthday I would have seen what Maci's plans were prior to the day. If I remember corectly he didn't even say happy birthday to him.

I don't know what more he could've done really. They had the discussion by the car, when she asked and he said no. She asked again, he said no. She said why, he said remember when I wanted to see him on his birthday and you said no? She said it's just for a couple of hours it's no big deal. He said then it's no big deal not to. She said she offered that he could come with her and Kyle he said she could come trick or treat with him and Bentley. She asked for his reason because "it can't be very good' or some such and that's when he just looked at her and then said he had to go and got in the truck.

Then they did the same roundabout at the party and when he said no like the third time there she said she could just take him - that's when he said take him then and got up and said that that was why they were going to court. At which point she looked befuddled. I think the guy is beyond calm because I'd have lost it on her long ago - she doesn't quit until she has what she wants because that seems all that matters to Maci, what Maci wants. Not what's right, not what's good for anyone else in existence, just what Maci wants. Move a toddler away from his father and all four involved grandparents with no notice because she's tired of driving a whopping two hours on the weekend to see her bf? If it's what Maci wants!

 

[brockash]

I was definitely disappointed when Macy pulled the 'I just want 2 more hours' thing and took some of Ryan's time away. That aggravates the heck out of me. I don't like Ryan, but he was totally right when he said she did the exact same thing on Bentley's birthday that he was doing for Halloween. I do hope he gets their agreement approved by a judge so that kind of stuff stops happening. It isn't fair to do that regardless of which parent it is.

That's not totally true. Maci didn't ask Ryan if she could have 2 hrs. with him on Halloween, on Halloween. She brought it up to him days before that, and the only reason he told her no was because she wouldn't let him cancel her plans on Bently's b-day. I thought Maci was more than generous in telling Ryan he could go to the aquarium with them on his b-day. If Ryan wanted to take Bently for part of his b-day, than he should've said something before the actual day, not call the morning of, and expect that they would just changed any plans they had that day around for him on the spur of the moment. That's why Maci told him no, and then was nice enough ask him if he wanted to join them. Ryan needs to learn the whole world doesn't revolve around him, and he can't expect ppl. to only do things/live around his spur of the moment schedule. Him telling her no about Halloween was only motivated by vengeance, which I think is beyond low. I will say, that she needs to get her schooling in order, and just get it done. Yes, Ryan has a job, but he's not going to school, and sits/stays at home so his parents can pay all his bills.

 

[hereyago]

Thanks Cornflake. I honestly thought say a parent dies, it's pretty much an automatic thing for the kid to get it. And that honestly stinks considering she wasn't born yet.

 

[cornflake]

She brought it up to him days before that, and the only reason he told her no was because she wouldn't let him cancel her plans on Bently's b-day.

He never asked her to cancel anything - he asked if he could see Bentley on his birthday. She said he could come to the aquarium. She didn't say he could come by and see him later or take him for ice cream at some point or anything. I think Ryan should have asked specifically for some such but he didn't.

Also, she said no and he accepted it. He didn't harangue her and ask her why and say because he's sure her reasons weren't good enough and etc. He needs to go to court and get a 50/50 agreement so he can at the least stop paying her support (I'd find it highly amusing if she were ordered to pay him support but whatever) and stop her from pulling the stuff she does by threatening to just take him.

Thanks Cornflake. I honestly thought say a parent dies, it's pretty much an automatic thing for the kid to get it. And that honestly stinks considering she wasn't born yet.

Yeah I agree and I'm not sure how it works if someone doesn't know there's a pregnancy. I would guess you can maybe show there was a committed relationship and since they interview relatives they could say had he known he'd definitely have but .. dunno. It's odd.