Team Focker Watch CHAT - New and Improved Part 4!

[jcc0621]

Janet.... You make me laugh... I needed that today

I aim to please AND Rule

I got some bad news, though.

Slight back story (I'll try to keep it short, but we know me.):

Back when the boys were 2 1/2 I headed "home" to IL for nearly 6 weeks as D was gone in training and I had a couple of weddings to attend at either end. As it happened, that was also the first of my maternal grandpa's radiation/chemo treatments for lung cancer. He'd had a 1/3 of his right lung removed in the mid 1990's, but continued to smoke, and the cancer came to the LEFT lung in 2005.

He's in poor overall health - he's also had an ostomy bag for years, heart issues, etc., so they did a long round of radiation/chemo, then said it was about all that could be done - that was around the middle of 2006.

He's just kept on keeping on since then. He's been on constant oxygen since last year, as has my grandma.

He has been coughing with some blood lately, so Mom took him to the doctor yesterday. They decided to go ahead and admit him. They felt it was bronchitis, and that the blood was likely just from breaking capillaries by coughing a lot.

But, they did a fibroscopy (???) today, and it turns out that the tumor is growing cancer again.

I've been expecting a horrible middle-of-the-night phone call for years, so this isn't exactly unexpected, but... They haven't talked to the oncologist yet, and so I don't really know if this means that he'll be gone within weeks or months or what. I feel that he's been ready to "give up" now for a while, so this may send him over the edge, even if they say "six months" or whatever.

I don't know. I'm sadder than I thought, because this has been going on for a long time, and of course, selfishly, the timing could have been better. My cousin (his granddaughter also) is getting married in August and I know we all really wanted him there. And I don't know anything for sure, so there's no sense in getting worried about timing until we've heard some prognosis of some sort.

Ugh.

It's hard even if you know they are sick CE We're here for you

 

[Bloodhound]

Anyone watching Dancing with the Stars? I want Jason to win ...I dont think he will though

 

[cmp1111]

It's hard even if you know they are sick CE We're here for you

Thanks.

 

[HomeschoolMama]

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Well, D's in Orlando now, but having beeing up since 3:30, he says he's not hitting DTD. It's actually kind of too bad because Dr. Belle is there now with her family, and he really would have liked to see her.

I got some bad news, though.

Slight back story (I'll try to keep it short, but we know me.):

Back when the boys were 2 1/2 I headed "home" to IL for nearly 6 weeks as D was gone in training and I had a couple of weddings to attend at either end. As it happened, that was also the first of my maternal grandpa's radiation/chemo treatments for lung cancer. He'd had a 1/3 of his right lung removed in the mid 1990's, but continued to smoke, and the cancer came to the LEFT lung in 2005.

He's in poor overall health - he's also had an ostomy bag for years, heart issues, etc., so they did a long round of radiation/chemo, then said it was about all that could be done - that was around the middle of 2006.

He's just kept on keeping on since then. He's been on constant oxygen since last year, as has my grandma.

He has been coughing with some blood lately, so Mom took him to the doctor yesterday. They decided to go ahead and admit him. They felt it was bronchitis, and that the blood was likely just from breaking capillaries by coughing a lot.

But, they did a fibroscopy (???) today, and it turns out that the tumor is growing cancer again.

I've been expecting a horrible middle-of-the-night phone call for years, so this isn't exactly unexpected, but... They haven't talked to the oncologist yet, and so I don't really know if this means that he'll be gone within weeks or months or what. I feel that he's been ready to "give up" now for a while, so this may send him over the edge, even if they say "six months" or whatever.

I don't know. I'm sadder than I thought, because this has been going on for a long time, and of course, selfishly, the timing could have been better. My cousin (his granddaughter also) is getting married in August and I know we all really wanted him there. And I don't know anything for sure, so there's no sense in getting worried about timing until we've heard some prognosis of some sort.

Ugh.

I'm so sorry...

 

[cmp1111]

I'm so sorry...

Thanks.

How are things in your house now?

 

[HomeschoolMama]

Acccccckkkkkk! K's driving me nuts!!!!!! I asked him to get a card, a balloon, noodles, and bread for me at the store for B's Bday dinner tomorrow, but he's reading everything out to me! He's making me NUTS!!!!

 

[cmp1111]

Acccccckkkkkk! K's driving me nuts!!!!!! I asked him to get a card, a balloon, noodles, and bread for me at the store for B's Bday dinner tomorrow, but he's reading everything out to me! He's making me NUTS!!!!

Can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em.

 

[jcc0621]

Acccccckkkkkk! K's driving me nuts!!!!!! I asked him to get a card, a balloon, noodles, and bread for me at the store for B's Bday dinner tomorrow, but he's reading everything out to me! He's making me NUTS!!!!

Can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em.

 

[KatGarcia]

I got some bad news, though.

 

[cmp1111]

Thanks, Kat.

 

[princessjv]

T- What a lucky duck. 15 minutes. You da bomb! Wanna trade houses with me? You can go shopping at the Mall of America. We don't have sales tax!

I so was hoping you gave that lady a llittle grumble as she stepped to the back of the line. I'm in a mean mood tonight!

CE- I know all to much what cancer can do to a family. I am amazed that he got that many years after having some of his lung removed. That is remarkable, Truly. I so believe he was meant to be her for awhile. Hang in there. When does he go to the oncologists? There are a few wonder drugs that are helping lunch cancer tumors hold and not grow. Is he still smoking?


HSM- MEN????

 

[cmp1111]

CE- I know all to much what cancer can do to a family. I am amazed that he got that many years after having some of his lung removed. That is remarkable, Truly. I so believe he was meant to be her for awhile. Hang in there. When does he go to the oncologists? There are a few wonder drugs that are helping lunch cancer tumors hold and not grow. Is he still smoking?

Thanks, Jen.

I just talked to my mom. They did talk to the pulmonary guy, and they'll talk to the oncologist tomorrow. The pulmonary guys thinks maybe more chemo or radiation is possible, but grandpa has said he didn't want that, and he's not in as good of shape now than even 3 years ago. Mom says she'll listen tomorrow, then ask for a "quality of life" assessment WITH treatment and then also a "timeline" if he chooses to do nothing. She's hoping for a minimum of 6-8 weeks, with hopefully up to a year, but she says that she's just thinking that from reading and so forth, not from any particular thing that was said today, and she could get blindsided tomorrow.

We'll see.

He did continue to smoke after the partial lungectomy in 1995, and even during his chemo and radiation in the fall of 2005, but once he went on oxygen, that was done, of course. I guess he drew the line at blowing up the house.

 

[kykatt2]

Back when the boys were 2 1/2 I headed "home" to IL for nearly 6 weeks as D was gone in training and I had a couple of weddings to attend at either end. As it happened, that was also the first of my maternal grandpa's radiation/chemo treatments for lung cancer. He'd had a 1/3 of his right lung removed in the mid 1990's, but continued to smoke, and the cancer came to the LEFT lung in 2005.

He's in poor overall health - he's also had an ostomy bag for years, heart issues, etc., so they did a long round of radiation/chemo, then said it was about all that could be done - that was around the middle of 2006.

He's just kept on keeping on since then. He's been on constant oxygen since last year, as has my grandma.

He has been coughing with some blood lately, so Mom took him to the doctor yesterday. They decided to go ahead and admit him. They felt it was bronchitis, and that the blood was likely just from breaking capillaries by coughing a lot.

But, they did a fibroscopy (???) today, and it turns out that the tumor is growing cancer again.

I've been expecting a horrible middle-of-the-night phone call for years, so this isn't exactly unexpected, but... They haven't talked to the oncologist yet, and so I don't really know if this means that he'll be gone within weeks or months or what. I feel that he's been ready to "give up" now for a while, so this may send him over the edge, even if they say "six months" or whatever.

I don't know. I'm sadder than I thought, because this has been going on for a long time, and of course, selfishly, the timing could have been better. My cousin (his granddaughter also) is getting married in August and I know we all really wanted him there. And I don't know anything for sure, so there's no sense in getting worried about timing until we've heard some prognosis of some sort.

Ugh.

CE What type of Lung cancer is this ??

My Father died of Smallcell Carcinoma. I Begged him for years to quit. He was diagnosed in Aug 1999 and Died Oct 2000
Chemo slowed it but We could not operate. I watched him deteriate.. and I could not visit like I wanted to. My kids did not want to be in the room with him. My last visit... he was comatose.. due to all the morphene. By the time they called me I could not get anybody to the hospital before he died. They were all an hour and a half away.. I was 4 hours. I hate the most... that he died alone.

Been there Baby... There are still Miracles... they do happen. Maybe he will be blessed to get one.

 

[Goofyluver]

So we just got back from DLR - it was probably one of our better visits! Thought I'd share this with you as I'm sure you'll all appreciate this...

So we're walking over to Thunder Mountain via the back way and Maddie spies Jessie and Woody - there are about 4 families in line. So she runs ahead and gets in line. We wait our turn, like good DISers and then when we're up, the handler decides to "reorganize" the line. Whilst she is doing this, some lady walks up to the front of the line and stands up next to Jessie and Woody, basically cutting infront of everyone - me included. So the CM goes back to where Jessie and Woody are and Jessie whispers something in the CMs ear. The CM looks at the lady and asks her "Where you in line?" the lady then replies "Uhhh... no." So the CM tells her "You need to get in line BEHIND all these people." It was the greatest moment for me, as people ALWAYS seem to cut infront of us and me and my mouth usually gets me nowhere with the CMs.
It was almost as good as a DREAM.... nah! Nevermind!

Bwahahaha...cheaters never win and cutters...well, they just suck!

I got some bad news, though.

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CE...I'm so sorry honey.

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OK...raise your hand if you think the Fockers have gone through enough??? Boy, it's been a rough little bit around here. I voted...and I think it's enough!

Anyone watching Dancing with the Stars? I want Jason to win ...I dont think he will though

I want him to win too...but I think it will be Kristi.

But Jason...*drool*...I just wanna lick him.

 

[princessjv]

Thanks, Jen.

I just talked to my mom. They did talk to the pulmonary guy, and they'll talk to the oncologist tomorrow. The pulmonary guys thinks maybe more chemo or radiation is possible, but grandpa has said he didn't want that, and he's not in as good of shape now than even 3 years ago. Mom says she'll listen tomorrow, then ask for a "quality of life" assessment WITH treatment and then also a "timeline" if he chooses to do nothing. She's hoping for a minimum of 6-8 weeks, with hopefully up to a year, but she says that she's just thinking that from reading and so forth, not from any particular thing that was said today, and she could get blindsided tomorrow.

We'll see.

He did continue to smoke after the partial lungectomy in 1995, and even during his chemo and radiation in the fall of 2005, but once he went on oxygen, that was done, of course. I guess he drew the line at blowing up the house.

May I ask how old grandpa is? His age and current health will play a big factor in how much they treat him. It can come down to quality of life. Do you want to live up to a year being sicker than sick, or less time with more quality if life. That seems to be the question.

Ask your mom to speak to the doctors about these two drugs: Tarceva (small cell) and Gemzar(non-small cell). See if you grandpa is a candidate for using these treatments. Both are for treatment of lung cancer stage III-IV.

I would assume they will schedule a CT scan and look to see if it mastasticized (sp?). At that point you would know what stage he is in. Although difficult, try your darndest to support what, if any therapies he chooses. You will be in my thoughts and prayers all day tomorrow!

 

[princessjv]

He did continue to smoke after the partial lungectomy in 1995, and even during his chemo and radiation in the fall of 2005, but once he went on oxygen, that was done, of course. I guess he drew the line at blowing up the house.

Now that was a smart decision.

 

[Bloodhound]

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OK...raise your hand if you think the Fockers have gone through enough??? Boy, it's been a rough little bit around here. I voted...and I think it's enough!



I want him to win too...but I think it will be Kristi.

But Jason...*drool*...I just wanna lick him.

too funny
.... I want Jason to win because I think DWTS threw in Kristy as a wringer .... because ice skating/dancing is already second nature to her...plus the show keeps harping a woman hasnt won in the last 5 seasons ...could that influence votes?

 

[Bloodhound]

I got some bad news, though.

Slight back story (I'll try to keep it short, but we know me.):

Back when the boys were 2 1/2 I headed "home" to IL for nearly 6 weeks as D was gone in training and I had a couple of weddings to attend at either end. As it happened, that was also the first of my maternal grandpa's radiation/chemo treatments for lung cancer. He'd had a 1/3 of his right lung removed in the mid 1990's, but continued to smoke, and the cancer came to the LEFT lung in 2005.

He's in poor overall health - he's also had an ostomy bag for years, heart issues, etc., so they did a long round of radiation/chemo, then said it was about all that could be done - that was around the middle of 2006.

He's just kept on keeping on since then. He's been on constant oxygen since last year, as has my grandma.

He has been coughing with some blood lately, so Mom took him to the doctor yesterday. They decided to go ahead and admit him. They felt it was bronchitis, and that the blood was likely just from breaking capillaries by coughing a lot.

But, they did a fibroscopy (???) today, and it turns out that the tumor is growing cancer again.

I've been expecting a horrible middle-of-the-night phone call for years, so this isn't exactly unexpected, but... They haven't talked to the oncologist yet, and so I don't really know if this means that he'll be gone within weeks or months or what. I feel that he's been ready to "give up" now for a while, so this may send him over the edge, even if they say "six months" or whatever.

I don't know. I'm sadder than I thought, because this has been going on for a long time, and of course, selfishly, the timing could have been better. My cousin (his granddaughter also) is getting married in August and I know we all really wanted him there. And I don't know anything for sure, so there's no sense in getting worried about timing until we've heard some prognosis of some sort.

Ugh.

Sorry to hear the bad news...I lost my mom to cancer 3 years ago this past April...she was given 4 to 6 months and she didnt lve much past the 4 months (pancreatic cancer) the doctors couldnt do anything....hospice was called in.

 

[HomeschoolMama]

I'd have to say that's my biggest fear with my mom- watching her become someone we don't know. I feel sick that my poor kids are going to have to see her in any way but how they know her now. We've known for years she wouldn't most likely be around for 10 more years, but to know there's a timeline now is just hard. It makes you re-think everything you say and do.

I second the vote that we've all been through too much lately. Thank you, Jesus, that we have each other, though.


I'm off to bed. K's rented a movie I'm not interested in and we have to be up early to visit dentist #2 tomorrow. I just finished setting up Baylie's gifts, balloon, card, and some table glitter for the morning. It's also Riley's Bday tomorrow. She'll be 11, and he'll be one!

 

[Lifelong_Dreamer]

T - Too funny about the line cutter. I hate people like that.

CE- for you.