Team Focker Watch Chat - Good Grief We Talk A Lot! Part 5

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Good morning ladies! :grouphug: Am I the only one who woke up this morning feeling like I wasted a nice long weekend doing nothing?:confused3 Hmmm...well, we all just woke up about a half hour ago so I feel like I slept my Sunday away. I'm going to go clean the kitchen and then head outside to do some weeding in my mulch beds:headache: . Ick...I hate that.

If it makes you feel any better, I am still in my jammies:rolleyes1


And honestly, as cool as it is, it cost me $375:scared1: . Yes, it came out of vacation money...so if I return it...well, that's all the more money I have to give to the Mouse.

:scared1: That's like some more DVC pints ain't it!:confused:

I haven't read these yet and everyone is raving about them. I don't even know who the author is!?! WOW - 2 books in 16 hours?? I'm still trying to get through my latest James Patterson (7th Heaven)...I keep it in my beach chair and try and read it in bits and pieces but I pulled it out yesterday and put it in the car. Michael has swimming class for the next 2 weeks and parents aren't allowed in the pool area, so I thought I'd just crank the AC in the car and try and catch up on some reading...

Jim is reading 7th HEaven now too. HEis having a hard time getting through too

I'm so tempted to call V...I guess I can wait...:rolleyes1 Of course, Janet you COULD give us your mother's side and we can get V's version when she does her TR...

That's all I'm sayin'...







Yeah, yeah...blah blah blah...:rolleyes1 Ok, but after we hear V's side...we want Mom's side...




Ok, ok...sheesh....

Note to self, Janet DOES NOT cave to peer pressure...find another weapon...pirate:

Bwahahahahapirate:



AH HA!! So it's NOT just happening at my house! I'd be mad too...I love the Philly zoo...

Or at least I used to...15 years ago...

Nope, it doesn't sound like it gets any better for 5, 6 or 7 either :sad2: I am a little annoyed. Walking the zoo is good practice for Disney too. We really want to get there soon, becasue the elephants are being shipped out to a reserve in TN and the elephants are Jimmy's favorite/
 
Hi. :goodvibes Thanks for all the well wishes. I'm so glad to be in my own bed.
I guess I was enjoying my morphine pump. Actually, I thought the nurse said I could push it every 6 mins. So I was. So eventually, she was all ugly about how I used it all up. I didn't know. I thought I was supposed to push it. It didn't seem to help at all anyway- stupid drugs. :snooty: The nurse from right after suregery (the morphine lady) was so rude. When I got to my room, she didn't help me at all to get into my new bed. Everytime she would try to grab my arm and yank, I would pull away. That hurt like heck. I don't know what her problem was. she wasn't very helpful. Maybe she didn't like my Focker sense of humor. :confused3 I do know at one time I said I was stuck "in the butt crack of the two beds." :lmao:

I was in my own room the first 24 hours, then they brought a roommate in about 6:30 on the 4th. :mad: It was like Jerry Springer on her side of the curtain. She was on the phone all night (I think she finally went to sleep about 4:30am) and her conversations were about wanting people to send her Western Union money, but not to tell anyone else they were sending money, because then other people wouldn't send money. Then she was telling some guy he beter step up because he was her man or whatever. It was horrible. OMGosh. She kept her t.v. on all night, and asked for drugs constanly. I was almost in tears I got so little sleep. :mad:

So, I knew I would be allowed to go home on Sat if I wanted to, so I was up and ready to leave by 8 when the doctor came in. I got home about 9.

It's been really hard to get in and out of bed without those arms on the hospital beds, I swear. I'm still in a lot of pain, but each day's a little better.

The kids are at my mom's until tomorrow around lunchtime. B's been crying a lot and worried about what type of care I was getting. I think it made her feel better to be home and get me settled before they left yesterday. :lovestruc The hardest part is needing help and being in a position where you want to look like you're fine for the kids, but you're not fine. I hate to think any of this is upsetting them.
C said that this was the worst fourth of July ever and started crying. It's hard not feel like I' have caused them some sadness. Even A said, "Mom, I missss you." on the phone last night to me. :sad1:

Okay- This took all my energy...

I'm going to rest now. :hug: :goodvibes
 
Hey Dawn...gald you are home and on the mend. Get lots of rest and let K and the kids spoil you for a while:hug:
 
Hi. :goodvibes Thanks for all the well wishes. I'm so glad to be in my own bed.
I guess I was enjoying my morphine pump. Actually, I thought the nurse said I could push it every 6 mins. So I was. So eventually, she was all ugly about how I used it all up. I didn't know. I thought I was supposed to push it. It didn't seem to help at all anyway- stupid drugs. :snooty: The nurse from right after suregery (the morphine lady) was so rude. When I got to my room, she didn't help me at all to get into my new bed. Everytime she would try to grab my arm and yank, I would pull away. That hurt like heck. I don't know what her problem was. she wasn't very helpful. Maybe she didn't like my Focker sense of humor. :confused3 I do know at one time I said I was stuck "in the butt crack of the two beds." :lmao:

I was in my own room the first 24 hours, then they brought a roommate in about 6:30 on the 4th. :mad: It was like Jerry Springer on her side of the curtain. She was on the phone all night (I think she finally went to sleep about 4:30am) and her conversations were about wanting people to send her Western Union money, but not to tell anyone else they were sending money, because then other people wouldn't send money. Then she was telling some guy he beter step up because he was her man or whatever. It was horrible. OMGosh. She kept her t.v. on all night, and asked for drugs constanly. I was almost in tears I got so little sleep. :mad:

So, I knew I would be allowed to go home on Sat if I wanted to, so I was up and ready to leave by 8 when the doctor came in. I got home about 9.

It's been really hard to get in and out of bed without those arms on the hospital beds, I swear. I'm still in a lot of pain, but each day's a little better.

The kids are at my mom's until tomorrow around lunchtime. B's been crying a lot and worried about what type of care I was getting. I think it made her feel better to be home and get me settled before they left yesterday. :lovestruc The hardest part is needing help and being in a position where you want to look like you're fine for the kids, but you're not fine. I hate to think any of this is upsetting them.
C said that this was the worst fourth of July ever and started crying. It's hard not feel like I' have caused them some sadness. Even A said, "Mom, I missss you." on the phone last night to me. :sad1:

Okay- This took all my energy...

I'm going to rest now. :hug: :goodvibes

Oh My! A hospital trip report. I am sorry the nurses were rude to you. I love you butt crack of two beds comment. I hate when people don't have a sense of humor. Take good care of yourself.
 

Glad to hear you are home dawn... hope you get ta fellin better pretty soon... I know what you mean about gettin home to your own bed... Sorry to hear about the annoying roommate for part of your stay :( No fun...

:grouphug: Welcome back :)
 
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OMG, let me know when it's set up, I'm so there!!!!

DOn't want to spoil V's TR;)

Well aren't you the thoughtful Focker:rolleyes:


Good morning ladies! :grouphug: Am I the only one who woke up this morning feeling like I wasted a nice long weekend doing nothing?:confused3

Nope, I pretty much waster it too, but honestly I really needed a quiet weekend to catch my breath.


And honestly, as cool as it is, it cost me $375:scared1: . Yes, it came out of vacation money.

WAIT a Focker minute, am I getting blamed for this purchase too!!!!;)

I tried saying the same thing, but the sale prices were AWESOME!! Just about everything was nearly 50% off, AND you got another 15% off if you put it on your JCP card...I couldn't NOT afford to buy the stuff...look at the amount of money I saved!!:banana: You gotta spend it to save it!!

Oh boy, I better get a disguise for Focker fest....


I do know at one time I said I was stuck "in the butt crack of the two beds." :lmao:
:lmao:

Glad to see you are home and posting, but take it easy Dawn:hug:
 
Hi Dawn! Glad you are home again! Nurses seem to run the gamut. I had GREAT ones for my back surgery last November. But, I've had terrible ones too.

The kids are just off kilter (get it, get it) from the upset to their schedules. Your only job right now is to get well. They will NOT be scarred by this and in the long run they will be so happy to have a healthy momma. :lovestruc

Let K handle the kids. You take it easy. Call if you want to...I'm chargin' up my cell right now.

MEL:banana:
 
Well, I'm back from the mall. Ca-ching...

Bath & Body Works was having a huge sale so I left there with a huge shopping bag of stuff, then bought some salt scrub stuff from a company called Seacret that Tony buys me hand/nail stuff at. THEN...I attacked JC Penney...GULP. The BIG bag is still hidden in the back of the Mazda...even after I saved $299, the bill still came out to $317!:scared1: I got a couple of Polo shirts for Michael for school but they were all out of pants and shorts his size so I need to keep an eye out for those. And I got myself some bermudas, capris, a bunch of tops, a couple of bras, a new hat for the beach/pool...

Awesome deals LL!


Hi everyone. I just wanted to let you know I'm home now. I came home early this morning and I'm enjoying recovering in my own bed. :lovestruc

Yay, your home Dawn!!! Hope you start feeling better soon! :hug:


This baby is The Plunge, by Banzai. It's been sitting in a box in the garage for 2 days. Tony, in his infinite wisdom, told me (whilst discussing Michael's behavior lately), that the first thing I need to do is stop spoiling him.

I'll admit it...I spoil him rotten. Totally my fault. I admit it. I also enjoy it.

So, in readily admitting that I do spoil him, and that Tony's right...what do I do about the slide?:confused3 Should I return it?

Michael's been pretty good all day today. Did he learn a lesson? Maybe.

Maybe not.

And so, my fellow Fockers, I look to you...

What would you do about the slide?

Return it?

OR....start using it tomorrow...:confused3

I have to agree with Mel (and a few others) and see how his behavior is this week and maybe set it up next weekend. I know there have been days where I have promised to take my kids to Dairy Queen or the park or get them something, but if their behavior is horrid I won't do it and won't argue with them about it. Especially my 5 year old. Good Luck to ya though! :hug: The slide looks like a lot of fun!


Thanks to the fockers I started reading the twilight series! Two books in 16 hours :rotfl: Can someone drop by and do my laundry? I promised myself that I can't read eclipse until I have hand painted the kid's outfits for our Disney Trip and made my Grandfathers memory book for his 90th B day party. I am having trouble with that promise, I want to read it NOW!

I need to pick these up and read as well. They sound good.


Hi. :goodvibes Thanks for all the well wishes. I'm so glad to be in my own bed.
I guess I was enjoying my morphine pump. Actually, I thought the nurse said I could push it every 6 mins. So I was. So eventually, she was all ugly about how I used it all up. I didn't know. I thought I was supposed to push it. It didn't seem to help at all anyway- stupid drugs. :snooty: The nurse from right after suregery (the morphine lady) was so rude. When I got to my room, she didn't help me at all to get into my new bed. Everytime she would try to grab my arm and yank, I would pull away. That hurt like heck. I don't know what her problem was. she wasn't very helpful. Maybe she didn't like my Focker sense of humor. :confused3 I do know at one time I said I was stuck "in the butt crack of the two beds." :lmao:

I was in my own room the first 24 hours, then they brought a roommate in about 6:30 on the 4th. :mad: It was like Jerry Springer on her side of the curtain. She was on the phone all night (I think she finally went to sleep about 4:30am) and her conversations were about wanting people to send her Western Union money, but not to tell anyone else they were sending money, because then other people wouldn't send money. Then she was telling some guy he beter step up because he was her man or whatever. It was horrible. OMGosh. She kept her t.v. on all night, and asked for drugs constanly. I was almost in tears I got so little sleep. :mad:

So, I knew I would be allowed to go home on Sat if I wanted to, so I was up and ready to leave by 8 when the doctor came in. I got home about 9.

It's been really hard to get in and out of bed without those arms on the hospital beds, I swear. I'm still in a lot of pain, but each day's a little better.

The kids are at my mom's until tomorrow around lunchtime. B's been crying a lot and worried about what type of care I was getting. I think it made her feel better to be home and get me settled before they left yesterday. :lovestruc The hardest part is needing help and being in a position where you want to look like you're fine for the kids, but you're not fine. I hate to think any of this is upsetting them.
C said that this was the worst fourth of July ever and started crying. It's hard not feel like I' have caused them some sadness. Even A said, "Mom, I missss you." on the phone last night to me. :sad1:

Okay- This took all my energy...

I'm going to rest now. :hug: :goodvibes

Dawn...great big :hug: It always feel better to be home than in the hospital. Sorry to hear about the crappy roomie...that totally sucks! And :hug: to your kiddos as well. I bet they will be spoiling you rotten once they are back home with you. Take it easy, rest and get back to us when you can.

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Not too much planned for us today. The kids and I just got back from Walmart and McD's. They're watching some kind of movie on the Disney Channel right now and I'm hoping DR will go down for a nap here shortly.

I was up until like 2:30 in the morning last night. My mom passed away this past October and my dad is already out dating. :eek: He's had a longer time to process my mom's death and what would happen when she died, but my brother and I are still in that greiving mode, kwim? (My mom had cancer for 25 years...it started off as a brain tumor and then just spread throughout her whole body). At first I wasn't OK with his dating but now I don't really mind it and want him to be happy. But the roles have completely reversed here. :laughing: Instead of my parents waiting up for me, I'm now waiting up for him. And it's not like I was really waiting up for him, I just can't sleep knowing everyone isn't where they are supposed to be, kwim? I have no idea how I will get to sleep when the kids go with their father for 2 weeks. I think I'll be having to buy stock in Advil PM. Anyways, hoping DR will take a nap so I can take a nap. (Long story there for just that one little statment :rolleyes: ).
 
Good Morning (Afternoon) Fockers!:goodvibes

We had a nice time at my nieces party yesterday - she had her "friend" party last week and just had Maddie (and us) and her BFF Katie (and her family) over last night for a quiet BBQ. I saw Katie's mom and almost didn't recognize her. She lost like 40 pounds! She's a teeny tiny woman, but has always been on the roundish side. Now she teeny tiny all over! She did the no carb, no sugar, high cardio diet. I'm completely inspired... gonna start... uhhhh... tomorrow... yeah, tomorrow. :lmao:

Today is hair day. My SIL is coming over for me to do her hair and then my mom wants her hair done too. Should be F-U-N! :rolleyes:

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MEL: Wholly cow!! YOu are a mean Momma!! :lmao: I'm gonna have to take some lessons from you.

LL: If you're anything like me, you've already got that slide set up right now! ;)

DAWN: :hug: So happy to hear from you! Those semi-private rooms sure do suck! Let DH and your kiddos spoil you for awhile, you deserve it! :flower3:

JANET: C'mon.... throw us a bone here! :worship:

Hi Everyone else! :wave2:
 
Hi Dawn glad your home and Dissing! I was in hospital for or 5 days when I had my hysterectomy and I didn't have a pump , but they gave me drugs whnever I asked and I tried not to ask to much!! I was moving pretty good by the next day my doc. was impressed . Iwas on drugs for almost 2 weeks at home and hated the feeling !! Iwas back to work in less than 6weeks even though my doc.wasn't to keen on the idea I told her who's gonna pay my bills so she let me !!I know everyone says take it easy but I didn't cooked supper everynight did laundry etc . DD was livid with me !!But I knew my limits and stopped when I needed to!!
 
We had a nice time at my nieces party yesterday - she had her "friend" party last week and just had Maddie (and us) and her BFF Katie (and her family) over last night for a quiet BBQ. I saw Katie's mom and almost didn't recognize her. She lost like 40 pounds! She's a teeny tiny woman, but has always been on the roundish side. Now she teeny tiny all over! She did the no carb, no sugar, high cardio diet. I'm completely inspired... gonna start... uhhhh... tomorrow... yeah, tomorrow. :lmao:

Glad you had a good time at the party!

I had a friend online who did that whole no carbs, no surage, yada, yada, yada diet and she lost a ton of weight as well. I think she went from a size 28 to a size 6 (maybe an 8) in a year. :eek: I so wish I had the will power and energy to do something like that. :headache:
 
Hi all. I did what I swore I wasn't going to do. I went shopping. I needed new sneakers for the trip and that is all I was going to get. Well, Kohl's was having a GREAT sale...$238 later my Nikes are now the most expensive pair of sneakers in history:rotfl2: I got a new top for WDW, I got 2 new outfits for work (skirts/tops), a pair of pants for work, 3 tanks for Jimmy and 3 new bras which were 50% off...but still too darn expensive :sad2:

I am home now, the boys went to the creek (pronounced crick) to let loose a vole:confused3 that wound up on my neighbors porch. It was some kind of rodent type animal. THen they were going to feed the ducks.
 
Glad you had a good time at the party!

I had a friend online who did that whole no carbs, no surage, yada, yada, yada diet and she lost a ton of weight as well. I think she went from a size 28 to a size 6 (maybe an 8) in a year. :eek: I so wish I had the will power and energy to do something like that. :headache:

My DH ( Scott) and I BEGAN the "Atkins" lifestyle back in 2003... UH There is at least One Week here and there:rolleyes1 I NEED CARBS.. more specifically CHOCOLATE. :scared:
In fact I could go Meat free MOST of the time. Give me some Mashed Potato's and a roll or two.. I have a meal. Scott HAS TO HAVE MEAT. When we were firsst married I set some Baked Macroni and cheese down in front of him and sat down to eat... He looked at me and said.. "Where is the rest of the Meal" ? Never had he just had Mac and Cheese it was a "Side dish" .:sad2:

Anyway.. as I digress... Scott LOST 80 pounds in about 8 months. :mad: And yet I am still married to him :mad: He still does the "Lower carb life" but just not as strict. I lost maybe 10 pounds. I am a Carb Person.

However.. I am proud to say this morning... that I have lost some weight. 18 pounds to be exact. :yay:

I feel better, but I still have a long "weigh" ( way) :rotfl: to go. I'm realistic. I'll NEVER BE TWIGGY again. But this is just unhealthy.. even though I have NO side effects you would would expect to see ( diabeties, High Blood pressure) But I do have joint problems.. especially a "Heel Spur".
 
So, today was shopping day, huh? I stopped at the mall after church and picked up $2.99 t-shirts at the Disney store! I bought DH a "Grumpy" t-shirt, me a Minnie Mouse one and the girls got matching Tink ones. I'm hiding them until our trip in October though.

Dawn, glad to hear you're doing pretty well. I remember trying to get up out of bed after my c-sections. It's really hard. I ended up sleeping a few nights in the recliner because it was easier. At least you don't have to get up every few hours and breastfeed a baby! :rotfl2: The kids will feel so much better after they get home. And they'll probably want to help out a lot more, so make sure you use that to your advantage! Still praying for a quick recovery!

We're headed to my BFF's house this afternoon to swim. The girls are really excited. It's finally nice enough around here to swim. We had the coolest 4th of July on record here - 71 degrees! It's usually well into the 80s or 90s by now. Of course tomorrow's forecast is 89!

Hope everyone has a great Sunday!
 
WHen I first read this I thought you meant for Fockerfest and thought OMG, she is catching the T bug:lmao:
No I'm not that mad :rotfl2: LY T!

Only drama DGD lost her cell phone on a ride it slipped down a small crack in the seat and they can't get it out till today, she was so upset '*** her stepdad is always on them about taking care of there things well after his usual rant he was the one helping us locate it and even stayed after closing to see if they could get it out!!! Now I'm going to check out the last few pages !!
I hope she gets it back Rosie!

Um, let me think.... that would be a YES.;)
Whatever :snooty: :rotfl2:

Jo did Flat Rosie arrive yet? I used laminating sheets from Walmart and did all by myself , I may not be a Computor Whiz but I am a Flat Whiz!!
Did you not see I posted a few days ago she arrived safe and sound!

I loooooove being a passenger, don't get me wrong, but it's a 6 speed and I'm sorry, but I hate-hate-hate having to pay attention to what I'm doing - shift, clutch, yada yada yada...I'm a drop-it-in-Drive-and-GO kinda girl.
Sorry LL but I just have to laugh as I'm the opposite, I've never driven an automatic :rotfl2:

Then he goes, and I quote, "First it's forcing me to go food shopping and now it's jammies. What more is it gonna take Dad? How much more can I take??"
OMG he didn't!!!!! Did Tony stick up for you?

Last edited by Lauralee131 : Yesterday at 02:36 PM. Reason: JO: What in the world is a carvery????? Speak English, will ya??? LOL!!
:rotfl2: A carvery is a buffet but just roast, so meat, roast potatoes, veg etc but it's normally yucky!

Jo (and others!)...................went to the fireworks last nite at the high school.........Ab met 2 guys visiting from Scotland (cousins of her friend)............she asked one of them what part of Scotland, and they said "west coast"......but she couldn't understand the accent so she said "is that in the north or southern part"........and he laughed and said "I see you're blonde! It's in the W-E-S-T part!" :lmao: The guy said someone else asked him if they have Christmas in Scotland and asked how he celebrated the 4th.........
How funny, but I'm with Ab the accent is so hard to understand!

The BIG bag is still hidden in the back of the Mazda...even after I saved $299, the bill still came out to $317!
OMG :faint:

Hi everyone. I just wanted to let you know I'm home now. I came home early this morning and I'm enjoying recovering in my own bed.
DAWN!!!!! So good to have you back :hug:

...I know what my mother said about her:rolleyes1
Oh Janet you can't leave us like that!!!!

So, in readily admitting that I do spoil him, and that Tony's right...what do I do about the slide?:confused3 Should I return it?
OK personally LL I would make it part of his Birthday present but also he needs to be good for another whole day at least before you set it up!

Where's Jo?
At the IL's, thanks for worrying!

Yesterday's points were REALLY good. So, now I don't feel so bad about Friday!
Fantastic :yay:

Am I the only one who woke up this morning feeling like I wasted a nice long weekend doing nothing?:confused3
Hey LL you haven't wasted the weekend it's the most we've seen of you here for ages :rotfl2:

Hi. :goodvibes Thanks for all the well wishes. I'm so glad to be in my own bed.
It must be great to be back Dawn especially as your roommate sounded horrid. Remember to still take it very easy :hug:

My mom passed away this past October and my dad is already out dating.
Does he live with you? Personally, having lost my step mum 2.5 years ago to cancer and seeing how my Dad cared for her, I think it's great your Dad is dating again, My Dad is still too upset and angry and I don't think it's doing him any good :sad2:

It was some kind of rodent type animal. THen they were going to feed the ducks.
Yeah a vole is like a little mouse, they're actually quite cute!

However.. I am proud to say this morning... that I have lost some weight. 18 pounds to be exact. :yay:
Wooohooo :yay:
 
So I'm back eventually (drive home took 3 hours instead of 2 :headache:) from the IL's and wow you're not going to believe what I've got to tell you :eek:

We had a nice evening with just SIL and BIL yesterday, then today we met up at David's Mum's with his Bro and other Sister, there were 15 of us in total. We then went to this restaurant which was just a pub so nothing fancy and it was a yucky carvery (buffet roast dinner). Well about half way through the meal David's Mum says that a few years ago they took out a loan on their house (we knew this and told them it was a silly idea) basically it was for $80k which when they sell the house, probably when they die, will get taken off but it's done as a % so if it was paid back now they'd have to pay $120k :eek: Are you with me????

So she says would the 4 kids like to buy the house off of them for $50k each? They would still live in it rent free but the loan would be paid off and hopefully no inheritance tax would need to be paid on there death or carehome fees paid from the house funds! OK so a bit of math, 4 kids at $50k each = $200k now what was the value of their loan yep $120k so they want us all to give them $80k spending money :mad:

Now none of the 4 kids are rich, 3 have young families, mortgages etc and the other was made redundant not long ago and working at a supermarket, he also has a mortgage, so to raise $50k would mean us all adding to our mortgages with no return. Also they could live for another 30+ years!

Now maybe I'm mean and nasty but my IL's were given that house mortgage fee when my MIL's parents died when she was in her late 20's so they've had their whole life with no mortgage yet expect us all to increase ours for them.

Also when they got this loan of $80 about 6 years ago they said that money would be enough forever, well what's going to happen in a few years when they've spent all our money too :headache:

BTW if we do this it would mean we could never afford another vacation whilst the girls were still at home and I think that's very selfish of the IL's

OK vent over, please tell me your opinions whatever they are!



Oh yeah one last thing, it was her Birthday party yet we all had to pay for both MIL and FIL's meals, they've never ever paid for the meals :rotfl2:
 
Never had he just had Mac and Cheese it was a "Side dish" .:sad2:

Honestly neither had I until I married Jim and surprised me and cooked dinner one night:confused3

Anyway.. as I digress... Scott LOST 80 pounds in about 8 months. :mad: And yet I am still married to him :mad:

:rotfl2:

However.. I am proud to say this morning... that I have lost some weight. 18 pounds to be exact. :yay:

:banana: :banana:

So, today was shopping day, huh? I stopped at the mall after church and picked up $2.99 t-shirts at the Disney store! I bought DH a "Grumpy" t-shirt,

Is it green and does it say Don't press your luck??? THat's the one I got Jim ::yes::

Oh Janet you can't leave us like that!!!!

Yes I can;)

Yeah a vole is like a little mouse, they're actually quite cute!

If you say say...to me it is a varmint!:scared:
 
few years ago they took out a loan on their house (we knew this and told them it was a silly idea) basically it was for $80k which when they sell the house, probably when they die, will get taken off but it's done as a % so if it was paid back now they'd have to pay $120k :eek: Are you with me????

So she says would the 4 kids like to buy the house . OK so a bit of math, 4 kids at $50k each = $200k now what was the value of their loan yep $120k so they want us all to give them $80k spending money :mad:

my IL's were given that house mortgage free when my MIL's parents died when she was in her late 20's so they've had their whole life with no mortgage yet expect us all to increase ours for them.

BTW if we do this it would mean we could never afford another vacation whilst the girls were still at home and I think that's very selfish of the IL's

OK vent over, please tell me your opinions whatever they are!


Uh.. what was David's take on this new revelation ??

Normally it's our parents that teach us "TOUGH LOVE" by letting us make mistakes. We do the same with our kids.. etc...
HOWEVER..The SHOE is on the OTHER FOOT here.. Our "Parents have dug them selves in a "Proverbial" Hole.
4 kids "Buy" into this home... THEN in a few year they either sell it and split the $$$ and HOPEFULLY get their money back....or You might have 1 kid that wants it.. and he/she has to BUY it again from the others.

Thsi sounds a lot like our "Reverse Mortgages". It all sounds like a good idea.. but it's trouble for the family later on.Even Home equity loans can be trouble.
GUYS DO NOT LET YOUR PARENTS DO THESE REVERSE MORTGAGES
( Speaking as someone who worked in the Mortgage industry for a while)

Jo, I would not want to be in this situation. .. they are the parents and you do not want them to get in trouble... But for the kids involved here.. it looks like a NO WIN situation. Kids not getting fair share of fair market value out of the house because of the Loan.

As much as feelings will get hurt... I would recommend the kids saying no to the parents offer, and dealing with the payout shortfall later on.:guilty:
Surely the parents would not even think of possibly creating a hardship for their kids.. would they ???:sad2:

Am I clear in my thoughts or muddy as melted chocolate Ice Cream ??
 
Thankyou Katt :hug: David luckily agrees with me and as you say there are so many if's, what if say one of the kids needs that money back otherwise they'd be homeless :eek: Also just too many ways for the family to fall out. TBH I think that why should David pay to get his inheritance IYKWIM!
 
OMG Jo! I have to comment on this one.

My mother is 59 yrs old. She works 6 days a week, at a horrible job where her pay checks SELDOM clear the bank. She hates the work, it's very hard on her feet and back all day. She has NO money in the bank, no 401K or retirement accounts, and she cashed in her life insurance a few months ago. My step-father is a bum. Worked as a mechanic for years but got canned last March. They are barely scraping by and they took a second mortgage out on their house. His unemployment ran out and now she is taking cash advances on her credit cards.

The reason I tell you all this? I will not give them a penny. Not one red cent. I told my sister (my only sibling, who's no better off than they are) that exact thing and she said I was a heartless B***H. Yep. I don't work. I am a SAHM. My dh has worked SO hard to provide for us for the last 16 years. I can't imagine saying to him, "I know that you worked 80 hour weeks for the last 15 years but I want to bail my irresponsible parents out." NO WAY!

My sister said that if HIS parents asked for help or to move in, we'd let them. Uh, that's not my decision. It's his. And they'd NEVER ask. Because for the last 25 years they've been saving and investing so they'd NEVER have to ask us that. My parents have been vacationing, buying cars they can't afford and spending their money on Carp.

Yeah. That's my story. So, please make your decision carefully. You sound like you already have, but I just had to share with you because it's not just David's folks.....

MEL:banana:
 
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