Swinger's Parties at Orlando!!

[poohandwendy]

The only obligation the hotel has is to enforce the dress code (in public areas) and remove people who are being disruptive. They are under no obligation to make sure guests are not morally offended by the other guests. Hotels have a right to fill their rooms, period. They are not baby sitters and are not obligated to make sure 'certain' groups are not exposed to other 'certain' groups.

The funny thing is that I have been involved with travelling soccer for MANY years. If anything, the soccer kids and parents can be rowdy and disruptive to other guests. I think they just finally got a taste of their own medicine.

And I think they are exaggerating, to be honest.

 

[Stacerita]

I think some people are way too uptight about things.

If the behavior was as rampant as the family stated, there would have been more families complaing I am sure. And they dont have to go into a whole story about swinging with their children. They could have very well just stated that they were adults and behaving inappropriately or silly. You dont need to break out a diagram and chart it out for the youngins.

If they saw anything at all, I would guess it was one isolated incident and not the entire convention behaving badly. Like the say, only takes one bad apple.

And I dont think the hotel should have to disclose anything to anyone about who is planning on staying there or not. Who is to say what is inappropriate to one person wont be to the next. Should they tell families that gays and lesbians will be staying there? Or a non married couple will be sharing rooms? PC police need to calm down and find something else to worry about.

 

[poohandwendy]

Paul Camporini brought his wife, seventh-grade daughter and eighth-grade son from Safety Harbor and said he had to “delicately explain to my Catholic school children that swingers change partners during the evening.”

Um...why on earth would he have to explain the idea of swinging to his kids? How did he even know that is exactly what the group was about? Did they see people in the act of sex and then switching partners? (how long did they sit and watch the activity?)

Tthe stuff described could have just as easily been any rowdy group of adults partying together on New Years Eve.

 

[mommaU4]

Tthe stuff described could have just as easily been any rowdy group of adults partying together on New Years Eve.

From the way this sounds:

"However, several hotel employees, who spoke on the condition they not be identified, said about 200 swingers attended the New Year's Eve party Saturday night -- about half the number that attended a similar event a year earlier.

One employee said the party was advertised on a swinger Web site, and participants came from across the United States."

It doesn't sound like it was an actual organized event/convention, more like a group that decided to get together and rent rooms to party. Nothing wrong with that, but maybe IF there was some inappropriate behaviour that would explain it. I doubt an organized swinger's convention would even have been noticed.

 

[poohandwendy]

Oh, I was not saying that the group were not swingers...just wondering how the father mentioned knew they were and why he needed to explain swinging to his kids. It just sounds to me that they were paying more attention to the partiers than they needed to, especially if they were so offended.

 

[mommaU4]

Oh, I was not saying that the group were not swingers...just wondering how the father mentioned knew they were and why he needed to explain swinging to his kids. It just sounds to me that they were paying more attention to the partiers than they needed to, especially if they were so offended.

I agree with you on that part. Sometimes when it comes to explaining things to kids it should be on a need to know basis.

 

[becker1123]

Maybe the "events" at this hotel were blown out of proportion, but if they happened as described in the article, I say shame on the hotel, but also shame on the swingers for being out in the open. If they'd stayed hidden, no one would have been the wiser.

I still think it is asking for trouble for a kids soccer convention and a swingers event with 200+ attendees to be planned for the same weekend. Given the size of the event I'm sure that the hotel knew what type of event it was and should have given the soccer team advance notice. It's called good customer service and full disclosure!

I know when many companies plan conventions, they find out who else will be there as they don't want a conflict of interest with other companies who might be competitors. Hotels know this, but your average soccer team parents wouldn't know to ask. That's where the customer service comes in. They need to anticipate what their clients might need. With more than 200 participants, they would know what type of event it was. That's just how the business works. It's not a matter of the hotel's deciding what's appropriate or not ... clearly many people would be opposed to young kids witnessing a swingers convention, it's just anticipating what might make some guests very uncomfortable. Like booking a Coke meeting when Pepsi is already there ... it doesn't happen because hotels and event planners know better, and if it did, heads would roll.

 

[DawnCt1]

Maybe the "events" at this hotel were blown out of proportion, but if they happened as described in the article, I say shame on the hotel, but also shame on the swingers for being out in the open. If they'd stayed hidden, no one would have been the wiser.

I still think it is asking for trouble for a kids soccer convention and a swingers event with 200+ attendees to be planned for the same weekend. Given the size of the event I'm sure that the hotel knew what type of event it was and should have given the soccer team advance notice. It's called good customer service and full disclosure!

I know when many companies plan conventions, they find out who else will be there as they don't want a conflict of interest with other companies who might be competitors. Hotels know this, but your average soccer team parents wouldn't know to ask. That's where the customer service comes in. They need to anticipate what their clients might need. With more than 200 participants, they would know what type of event it was. That's just how the business works. It's not a matter of the hotel's deciding what's appropriate or not ... clearly many people would be opposed to young kids witnessing a swingers convention, it's just anticipating what might make some guests very uncomfortable. Like booking a Coke meeting when Pepsi is already there ... it doesn't happen because hotels and event planners know better, and if it did, heads would roll.

Excellent points. I agree completely.

 

[motherhen17404]

Would this have been a big story if it happened to be a "Swim suit modeling convention" instead of a "swingers" party? I think not. I am sure the kids would have seen more skin just hanging out by the pool then they "thought" they saw in the lobby of the hotel.

As for the man having to tell his kids what a swinger is, he could have said that they are people who enjoy "swing dancing" and left it at that. It was his choice to explain the truth.

 

[Chuck S]

... Given the size of the event I'm sure that the hotel knew what type of event it was and should have given the soccer team advance notice...

Not necessarily, the swingers could have called the hotel as individuals and booked rooms...it may not have ben disclosed that it was a "group" of 200+ people. Someone from the website could have boked the ballroom/meeting room for "a party" or "reception". The hotel, good customer service or not, was under no obligaton to disclose what oher groups may be there...and it may be a violation of privacy laws to do so.

 

[Beth76]

And they dont have to go into a whole story about swinging with their children. They could have very well just stated that they were adults and behaving inappropriately or silly. You dont need to break out a diagram and chart it out for the youngins.

I thought that was odd too. There's absolutely no need to explain to the kids what was going on in the other party. I think they are just trying to get the "emotional distress" card here.

 

[RobInBigKC]

I wish I had been there I'd have gotten pictures to share with my fellow disers...

Bless you!

It would have been nice if someone had thought of us!

-- Rob

 

[chell]

They were just talking about this on the local news. I don't think the hotel should have to be the one to apologize. Really I think these people are exaggerating. If that was the normal behavior of these groups wouldn't that be public knowledge by now?

 

[goofygirl]

I don't know if this was said already but....


I bet some of those swingers are also soccer moms and dads! The 2 groups have more common ground than you think!

Yep, swingers are the people you'd least expect to be doing that: the upper middle class professional couple with the 2.5 kids in the burbs. Research the topic, you'll see!

 

[cardaway]

It's not a matter of the hotel's deciding what's appropriate or not ... clearly many people would be opposed to young kids witnessing a swingers convention, it's just anticipating what might make some guests very uncomfortable.

So who is a good mesh with a swingers convention?

If I had a choice, I would pick the swingers over a group of soccer kids.

 

[Caradana]

I laughed like a 12-year-old boy at this thread. By the way, how many little groups of 12-year-old boys do we speculate spent that night riding up and down on the elevator, hoping to get flashed?

 

[chell]

Caradana according to my newscast it was a group of girls who were there for the Soccor thing.

 

[ilovepcot]

Somehow I can't imagine the "Swingers" calling the hotel to book a block of rooms and telling the clerk, "Oh, by the way, we're a group of swingers!" Why would they even want to share that knowledge? No need really and, therefore, I have doubts the hotel knew ahead of time just "who" the rooms were for.

 

[Caradana]

aaah. Okay, they probably didn't want to get flashed.

 

[Caradana]

5 points to the first person who posts "If I invite four swingers into our DVC studio, are we violating the 4-to-a-room restriction? What if no one actually 'sleeps'?" on the DVC board. Pass the popcorn.