Suspended license and car rental

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My DL has a barcode on the back that can be scanned and pulls up the current info attached to it. I don't know if rental companies have the equipment to scan them but if they did it wouldn't take more than 2 seconds to find out if the license was valid.
 
My DL has a barcode on the back that can be scanned and pulls up the current info attached to it. I don't know if rental companies have the equipment to scan them but if they did it wouldn't take more than 2 seconds to find out if the license was valid.

Most should have a magnetic strip on the back. I've had to present my driver license when buying a decongestant. No pharmacy seems to accept anything other than a permanent driver license or state ID.

The barcode is just a number. I guess the number is designed to contain the license number and maybe the state. Or does yours have a 2D "matrix code" like this?

Better_Sample_PDF417.png


http://mantascode.com/us-drivers-license-barcode-attributes-by-state/

My California DL has a barcode at top above the strip, and I checked to see that my license number is buried somewhere in the encoding. The matrix code on mine has my name and a bunch of information I can't figure out. I can check this with a smartphone app that reads assorted codes.

I don't think anything is really needed other than the state and license number to run a record. Once I rented at a remote kiosk where I was talking to someone at a central location through a video setup. I was asked to hold my driver license up to the camera so the agent could check it. It's not really all that complicated, but I'm thinking any business that does this probably gets charged a fee each time they do it. Running the occasional record check would make sense, although I'm not sure how they determine to do it or not.
 
Most should have a magnetic strip on the back. I've had to present my driver license when buying a decongestant. No pharmacy seems to accept anything other than a permanent driver license or state ID.

The barcode is just a number. I guess the number is designed to contain the license number and maybe the state. Or does yours have a 2D "matrix code" like this?

Better_Sample_PDF417.png


http://mantascode.com/us-drivers-license-barcode-attributes-by-state/

My California DL has a barcode at top above the strip, and I checked to see that my license number is buried somewhere in the encoding. The matrix code on mine has my name and a bunch of information I can't figure out. I can check this with a smartphone app that reads assorted codes.

I don't think anything is really needed other than the state and license number to run a record. Once I rented at a remote kiosk where I was talking to someone at a central location through a video setup. I was asked to hold my driver license up to the camera so the agent could check it. It's not really all that complicated, but I'm thinking any business that does this probably gets charged a fee each time they do it. Running the occasional record check would make sense, although I'm not sure how they determine to do it or not.
Mine has a barcode now..part of the upgrades for compliance I'm guessing. The only time I have actually seen someone scan it was at the liquor store with an app on their phone (they had to do that for a while as they got caught selling to underage as they didn't ask for ID). My assumption is my barcode contains at least some of my personal information such as date of birth and that it's valid or not.
 
Most should have a magnetic strip on the back. I've had to present my driver license when buying a decongestant. No pharmacy seems to accept anything other than a permanent driver license or state ID.

The barcode is just a number. I guess the number is designed to contain the license number and maybe the state. Or does yours have a 2D "matrix code" like this?

Better_Sample_PDF417.png


http://mantascode.com/us-drivers-license-barcode-attributes-by-state/

My California DL has a barcode at top above the strip, and I checked to see that my license number is buried somewhere in the encoding. The matrix code on mine has my name and a bunch of information I can't figure out. I can check this with a smartphone app that reads assorted codes.

I don't think anything is really needed other than the state and license number to run a record. Once I rented at a remote kiosk where I was talking to someone at a central location through a video setup. I was asked to hold my driver license up to the camera so the agent could check it. It's not really all that complicated, but I'm thinking any business that does this probably gets charged a fee each time they do it. Running the occasional record check would make sense, although I'm not sure how they determine to do it or not.

No magnetic strip, just the barcode that looks like that
 

My DL has a barcode on the back that can be scanned and pulls up the current info attached to it. I don't know if rental companies have the equipment to scan them but if they did it wouldn't take more than 2 seconds to find out if the license was valid.
But is that a state database or a federal one? Presumably you'd have to be connected to the correct server to get any details off that.
 
Well ignoring the obvious moral/legal issues of driving on a suspended license, she would void the insurance for a start.
As far as running the license, we are always driving with an NZ licence I doubt any US Car rental company would have access to systems to know whether it was expired/revoked/suspended or not.
Last trip to Florida we also had to get an international license (not needed in Cali or previous Fl trips) not sure how linked that is to my actual license so if my proper license was suspended if that would effect the international one.
 
Mine has a barcode now..part of the upgrades for compliance I'm guessing. The only time I have actually seen someone scan it was at the liquor store with an app on their phone (they had to do that for a while as they got caught selling to underage as they didn't ask for ID). My assumption is my barcode contains at least some of my personal information such as date of birth and that it's valid or not.

You can check the link I posted about, although it may not be all that accurate. This is what a California back looks like, although I didn't see all the information on the front when I checked it through a code reading app.

new_california_driver_license_3_100610.jpg


When I've bought decongestants at a pharmacy, I had mine go through a magnetic strip reader. I've also occasionally done stuff like unintentionally insert my driver license in an ATM, and the machine came up like I had inserted another bank's card. I think it was just a default mode for asking for a PIN before sending all the info to the network.

Apparently some pharmacies are using the matrix code (this one is called PDF417) to check through a database for decongestant sales. I've only had mine swiped, although I haven't bought any recently.

http://www.nj.com/business/index.ssf/2015/04/bamboozled_what_the_bar_codes_on_your_drivers_lice.html
 
But is that a state database or a federal one? Presumably you'd have to be connected to the correct server to get any details off that.

Probably going through a service with direct access of any state/territory. I mean - it's easy enough for insurance companies or employers to check a potential employee's driving records.

https://www.sambasafety.com/who-we-serve/background-screeners/

With direct access to Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) records in all 50 states, Canada, Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia, background screeners can now provide their clients more than just a personal driving record or pre-hire check MVRs, they can also provide value-added services such as continuous driver monitoring through SambaSafety’s industry leading Driver Risk Management solutions.​
 
Probably going through a service with direct access of any state/territory. I mean - it's easy enough for insurance companies or employers to check a potential employee's driving records.

https://www.sambasafety.com/who-we-serve/background-screeners/

With direct access to Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) records in all 50 states, Canada, Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia, background screeners can now provide their clients more than just a personal driving record or pre-hire check MVRs, they can also provide value-added services such as continuous driver monitoring through SambaSafety’s industry leading Driver Risk Management solutions.​
It doesn't say how long that check takes though. For rental companies to use it, it would have to happen within minutes.
 
It doesn't say how long that check takes though. For rental companies to use it, it would have to happen within minutes.

I think some (maybe most) are instant. It's also not free. There will be a charge for each search, and the fees are probably based on what the state charges. In this day and age there's no excuse for this kind of information to not be available immediately. California makes their records available immediately. They warn that the user's printer be ready, as there will only be one chance to print out the record. The record is also unofficial.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/online/dr

It's possible that a business as big as a car rental agency would have a direct connection to the states rather than through a third party?
 
They just right the info down, dont run it, the thing you got to do is if you know your licenses is gonna be suspended, go to the DMV a couple days before and tell them you lost yours, get a new one, then turn in the new ones and keep the old ones
 
I know the moral side of this is not good, and I agree with everyone's thoughts.

However, I can tell you for 100% certain that they DO NOT run any check on a persons' drivers license. You are required to present a drivers license to the rental counter and the rental agent must look at it to ensure it's current, looks real, etc...but they don't actually do any kind of driving record check. So if the state she is in doesn't require her to surrender her license (or she ignores the order to do so), then she could easily get a rental car.

If she gets into an accident, she'd certainly get a citation from the police and perhaps her suspension would be made longer. The rental agency could deny liability coverage to her, so it would then fall back to her (or her mothers' if she lives at home) personal insurance carrier to pay the claim. Beyond that, sad to say, not much consequences would come from it. I see people with suspended licenses having accidents more times than I can count. :sad2:


Okay I just talked to my step daughter who is a trainer for one of the big rental agencies and she said Absolutely Positively they run the DL for everyone who rents and it only takes 5 seconds. She said they run it every single time, even if you just rented last week.
 
Okay I just talked to my step daughter who is a trainer for one of the big rental agencies and she said Absolutely Positively they run the DL for everyone who rents and it only takes 5 seconds. She said they run it every single time, even if you just rented last week.
Truth be told though rental agencies that automatically cover spouses, or business clients, etc without needing to actually list as an additional driver...they would not take their license nor do they ask for it (at least I've never been asked for it unless I'm the one who is going to be on the rental agreement) so I guess technically in your daughter's case (unless she works for a company that doesn't automatically cover the usual people that are) they only run it off of the person whose name is on the rental agreement, not necessarily all the persons who may drive the vehicle as allowed by state law or by company policy.
 
Okay I just talked to my step daughter who is a trainer for one of the big rental agencies and she said Absolutely Positively they run the DL for everyone who rents and it only takes 5 seconds. She said they run it every single time, even if you just rented last week.

Don't know, can't speak for her. All I can tell you is I've been in auto insurance claims a really long time, and know for sure Enterprise and Budget/Avis do not do it as a matter of course.
 
Well not sure if she was an epic fail or what, but according to my co-worker her daughter did not go on her trip. All my co-worker got was it's been postponed and that came from a facebook post. She hasn't talked with her daughter since the conversation that lead to my post.

Co-worker and I agree, that we are sure she went down in flames and is keeping on the down low to avoid an I told you so from mom.
 
Well not sure if she was an epic fail or what, but according to my co-worker her daughter did not go on her trip. All my co-worker got was it's been postponed and that came from a facebook post. She hasn't talked with her daughter since the conversation that lead to my post.

Co-worker and I agree, that we are sure she went down in flames and is keeping on the down low to avoid an I told you so from mom.


Well, that's not very satisfying. Doesn't your co-worker know your DIS friends need more details? :magnify: :rotfl:
 
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