Survivor 20**HvV**No SPOILER THREAD**

Jeff's blog this week:


PREVIOUSLY ON… SURVIVOR

FADE IN:

Russell lies back in his homemade bed of palm fronds and coconut husk. He takes one last puff before on his imaginary Survivor cigarette before extinguishing it into the imaginary mud.

He puts his arms behind his head and smiles as he traces back the thoughts of last night…

FLASHBACK:

JEFF

… the seventh person voted out… Boston Rob.

Russell turns to Parvati, who is of course not really there.

RUSSELL

(deep sigh)
Ahh. That was really good.

He gives her a peck on the cheek and effortlessly pops to his feet. With a flash he is gone for there is more Survivor left to play.

FADE OUT:

THIS WEEK ON… SURVIVOR.

Boston Rob is gone. Russell is in charge. Or is he? Who really is in charge over at the Villains camp? Is it Russell? Is it Parvati? Is it Parvati and Danielle? Or is it truly a power trio of Russell, Parvati, and Danielle? Expect a battle for true leadership to emerge at some point because Parvati takes a back seat to nobody. Either way you slice it, the Villains are in trouble.

More on that later.

THE HIDDEN IDOL
Oh, J.T.: Dude, you got caught! Sweet.

J.T. was like a six-year old kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He can try all he wants to make it a “tribe idol,” but the damage is done. He got busted. It didn’t play out in this episode, but rest assured it will in future episodes. J.T. has some major recovering to do because he flat out got busted and it didn’t go over well with the rest of the tribe that he went looking for the idol without telling anybody.

THE LOVE STORY THAT MAY NEVER BE
Coach and Jerri continue to captivate me. Their love story, and in my book it is a love story, is one of the best we’ve ever had. Sure, it may be a story of unrequited love, since Jerri just doesn’t seem to be into it, but it’s been so enjoyable to watch. They make me feel as though I’m in the midst of some sort of 15th century epic war movie where you know Jerri will finally proclaim her love for Coach only as he is dying in her arms after saving her life.

INSIGHT: FAKE MERGE PART DEUX!

It’s been a long time since we last tried to pull off a “fake merge.” It was way back on Survivor: Thailand when Shi-Ann took the bait, believing that we were in fact merging and ultimately made a strategic mistake that cost her a shot at the million dollars.

This week, we knew that both tribes were expecting (even hoping for) a merge so we played on that expectation even though there was no merge planned for this episode.

The first thing we did was write a tree-mail that would help set the trap. If you go back and listen to the tree-mail again, the content is the same as any other challenge tree-mail. It explains the challenge and it teases the reward. But the way “tree-mail poet” and challenge producer John Kirhoffer wrote it played on their expectations of a merge. It was a subtle shift but it worked. It set the trap.

The result: The Villians believed they were merging and so they took apart their entire camp and brought everything with them to the challenge, anticipating that they would not be going back to their camp.

Yes, that made us very happy because keep in mind that after 20 seasons it is extremely difficult for us to get anything past them. So many players today are students of the game combined with the fact that we’ve used up most of our tricks over the last 10 years. So any small victory is a reason to celebrate.

The next thing we did to help sell the idea of a merge was to let them “see” the reward when they walked in, which is also a bit unusual. Normally I “reveal” the reward only after explaining the challenge. When they saw the food sitting on the table it again fueled their expectations — the food had to be the merge feast. Why else would it be sitting out like that? Wrong again. More celebration for us.

The final lure was the language I used when addressing them, which inclued the beginning words of the phrase that we always use when we merge:

“Everybody… drop… your…”

As I was slowly saying the words, I saw Rupert begin to take off his clothes. I’ll admit I couldn’t help but smile inside. These are our best and smartest players. Some of them have played three times. To pull something over on them on any level is just good ole plain fun.

The final beat was the last word…

“Everybody drop your… expectations.”

It was followed with a large groan by both tribes as they realized we were not merging.

The Villains were especially bummed since they had taken down their entire camp. Yes, they went back to camp and had to rebuild everything.

WHY THE VILLAINS ARE IN TROUBLE
The Villains do not have a leader. Russell is not a leader. He’s a great strategist, but he doesn’t know the first thing about how to lead a group of people. Parvati is certainly not a leader. She’s a spy. Coach would love to be a leader and if this were a women’s soccer team, perhaps he’d be a very good leader. But this is Survivor and Coach cannot lead a group like this.

Boston Rob was a leader. He led his tribe. But Boston Rob is gone.

When the Villains were strategizing about whom to sit out at the reward challenge, it was Coach that was taking the leadership role. Coach was asking silly questions like “Who is good at bowling?” What? Coach, this isn’t the PBA with oiled up lanes and a Black Diamond 16 lb ball. This is Survivor bowling. It’s 90 percent luck for crying out loud. When you have to sit someone out, the question should never be about the Reward Challenge, it should always be about the upcoming Immunity Challenge. You have to keep in mind that whoever sits out in the Reward challenge has to play in the Immunity Challenge.

Leadership. Forward thinking. Sorely missing.

WHY I LOVE SANDRA
Sandra is really underestimated. Not only does she know when to avoid a fight, she also knows when to start a fight. Strategy is all about timing, and Sandra is very good at gauging the right time to stir up trouble. She did it back in the Pearl Islands and used it to get the heat off of her back, which allowed her to win the game. She did it again this episode by starting a rift between Coach and Russell. Brilliantly played. I loved it. Let’s be honest, Sandra could have easily been sent home by now and had Courtney been voted out tonight, Sandra would be a shoo-in for next week. But because of her well-timed strategic maneuver, Sandra is still alive.

With this one little move, Sandra again revealed Russell’s Achilles heel. It’s not that he’s “stupid” as Sandra suggested. It’s his ego. Pure ego. In this case, it’s that he can’t stand thinking Coach is having second thoughts about him. Nobody has second thoughts about Russell Hantz. “I’m Russell Hantz!”

With Parvati, it’s his ego that is leading him to believe she really likes him. She doesn’t. Parvati doesn’t like anybody. We all know that. We’ve watched her play this game three times now. She’s a flirt. A very good flirt. A million-dollar flirt. But she doesn’t like you, Russell.

When Parvati and Russell were talking about their plan, she said to Russell: “It’s all falling together perfectly…” Russell should have stopped and listened to his gut. His reply to Parvati — “You’ve done that before…” — tells you that he knew something wasn’t right, but he didn’t listen. The reason he didn’t listen? His ego. To admit to himself that Parvati might be playing him would mean he would have to admit that maybe Parvati wasn’t as “into him” as he wants to think she is. Ego is a powerful thing. Russell’s ego is so powerful that it overrode his usually spot-on strategic sense and has left him very vulnerable. At this moment in the game, Russell is in trouble. He doesn’t see it, but he is.

THE IMMUNITY CHALLENGE
The villains never really had a chance. Courtney has hurt them in back-to-back challenges. She hurt them last week, and she hurt them again this week. I’m not picking on Courtney! Relax. I’m just observing. Courtney should not have sat out of the bowling challenge. She should have bowled. Sandra should have bowled too. Bowling is a non-contact, non-physical challenge for reward. You don’t put yourself in a position to have Courtney and Sandra both forced to compete in the Immunity Challenge when you only have 5 people competing. That’s nearly half your tribe. I’ll say it again: leadership. Voting out Rob was a mistake they are paying for dearly.

TO FUTURE PLAYERS
If you find yourself on a tribe with a really great leader or a really great strategist or a really great food provider, or someone who dominates at challenges — think before you vote them out. Yes, they may be a threat later in the game, but that doesn’t mean it makes sense to vote them out immediately. Better to work with them, use their skills to get YOU as far in the game as you can go. Ride the horse in the direction it’s going… then when the end is in sight, you cut their neck. The short-sighted nature of so many Survivor players is the single biggest reason they never have a shot at the money.

In a sense, you have to play this game backwards. Think about it. You must get to the end to have a shot at the money, right? So, you have to survey the scene and ask yourself, who can help me get to the end? Guys like Russell and Rob and women like Parvati and Sandra, they can help you get to the end. If you find yourself in a situation where you sense somebody is very good, latch onto them and take a ride. I’m not suggesting flying under the radar, but I am suggesting you look for someone you fear — and instead of fearing them, join them. Just don’t forget to cut their throat before they cut yours.

PRE-TRIBAL
Oh, now Danielle wants Courtney gone?!! Finally, a good idea. Danielle is right. But it’s too late, and she’s the wrong person to make a suggestion to Russell. Russell doesn’t respect Danielle. Parvati might have a shot at convincing Russell but she’s fine getting rid of Coach, because remember… it’s all “falling together perfectly.”

WHAT COULD SAVE THE VILLAINS
This slowly emerging idea that the Heroes think there is a “women’s alliance” on the villain tribe could be their salvation. It remains to be seen how and if it will play out but the Villains will need some sort of a break because right now they are in major trouble.

GOODBYE COACH
I won’t do a “goodbye Coach” tribute. You all know that I hated to see Coach go. From my vantage point, he’s one of the most fascinating people we’ve had on the show, but there is nothing to be done about it — he’s gone. My tissue box is still empty from last week’s dismissal of Boston Rob so the tears will have to simply fall down my face and onto the floor.

NEXT WEEK ON SURVIVOR…
If you missed the tease for next week’s episode, it’s a good one!!
 
I found it funny that Russell is pegged as the Idol finding guru. Anyone notice that Amanda consistently catches people with the idols. Too funny :lmao:
 
I found it funny that Russell is pegged as the Idol finding guru. Anyone notice that Amanda consistently catches people with the idols. Too funny :lmao:

I'm surprised that they haven't shown Russell looking for more idols. Certainly he knows that once one is played, another is hidden. Maybe he's looking and they just aren't showing.

If Rob and Russell had just not let their egos get in the way, I think that the TC outcomes would be a lot different.
 

Thanks for the link! It was interesting listening to Coach. I wonder who Brenda is? He said something like "no wonder Brenda got fat" while he was eating.

It was also amazing that he brought no clothes with him because he was so sure that he would win. He never planned on being taken out so soon.


Those videos make him look like an even bigger idiot than during the actual game.
 
Has anyone watched the interviews of each contestant that were filmed before? Below the film is a biography of each contestant.

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/bio/danielle_20/bio.php

Danielle's says~~ Previous Survivor She Respects Least: Russell Hantz (Samoa)

I thought that they filmed before Samoa aired. :confused3

If that's the case, do you think that she respects him least because she never saw him play?

Edited to add...

I kept watching the other video and I had no idea that JT and Sugar were dating before they filmed. How did I miss that?
 
I have to say- this is definitely the best season FOR ME so far in Survivor!! Love it!!:thumbsup2
 
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Has anyone watched the interviews of each contestant that were filmed before? Below the film is a biography of each contestant.

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/bio/danielle_20/bio.php

Danielle's says~~ Previous Survivor She Respects Least: Russell Hantz (Samoa)

I thought that they filmed before Samoa aired. :confused3

If that's the case, do you think that she respects him least because she never saw him play?

It was. The interviews were probably done after the fact.
 
Russell didn't vote for Coach to hopefully pull a jury vote. He said at the TC that he would vote for the strength of the tribe or something like that. That tells Coach he didn't vote for him and the girls did. It also plays into the idea that the girls are running the tribe when the two merge. Russell has it figured out.

That makes sense. I watched the tribal voting clip on the Survivor site and Russell signed his name on the vote, also. He said something about, "hope this works" - I'm guessing he wasn't sure if they were going to start making the jury yet? Whatever the case, if he makes it to the end, he possibly will get Coach's vote just for that.

Next week's preview is making it look like JT definitely gives the HII to Russell; I don't think they'd show a montage of dumbest Survivor moves ever if JT was just contemplating it.
 
Good move by Sandra. Personally I don't think she tried to get Russell out because she knew that Coach and Jerry were too wishy washy. Her strategy has always been, "as long as it isn't me" so this fit her strategy to a t.

Candace and Amanda definitely have JT figured out. I think he is in real danger once a merge hits. I also don't see Parv and Danielle sticking with Russell real long after a merge. They definitely have Russell figured out too, as do Sandra and Courtney. Even though there isn't a woman's alliance now, I would definitely be worried about them once they merge.

We can hope all the girls wake up and smell the crap Russell is shoveling. After a merge, getting rid of Russell first would be the smartest thing they can do. Unless Danielle, can sway Parv over to voting off Russell, along with getting Courtny and Sandra to vote, if the villians go one more time before tribal.

I don't know if Parv's got his number or not, but after he went off on Danielle, she should have gotten it.
 
For the conspiracy crowd...

Your thinking is predicated on the most "popular" person being kept around because of ratings. Please remember that this show is in the can way before it airs. The producers don't know who is going to be a popular survivor while it is being filmed and then edited.

Much of the public like or dislike of a particular survivor is driven by the editing of the show.
 
Well this time it was Sandra who won! Russ wanted Courtney out and oops!!

The preview about JT and his "idol deal with the devil" happened because the villans might have lost again, the realized that Russ is the only one poor dude under the power of those evil girls, he probably thinks that Parv is in charge when the saw that coach is gone.
Otherwise why would he be willing to give the idol if they were the ones going to tribal. And I hope Amanda and Candance realize that it would be a very bad idea and get rid of JT. They were talking about that already.
 
For the conspiracy crowd...

Your thinking is predicated on the most "popular" person being kept around because of ratings. Please remember that this show is in the can way before it airs. The producers don't know who is going to be a popular survivor while it is being filmed and then edited.

Much of the public like or dislike of a particular survivor is driven by the editing of the show.

Of course! :lmao::thumbsup2 They admitted that last season no one was 'interesting' and Russ loved the attention and camera time :worship: really!!?:laughing:
 
We can hope all the girls wake up and smell the crap Russell is shoveling. After a merge, getting rid of Russell first would be the smartest thing they can do. Unless Danielle, can sway Parv over to voting off Russell, along with getting Courtny and Sandra to vote, if the villians go one more time before tribal.

I don't know if Parv's got his number or not, but after he went off on Danielle, she should have gotten it.

Sandra figured Russ out, she knows that if he thinks you are after him, he would get rid of you regardless of anything, alliance or whatever, now she just need to use that to her benefit and blindside Russ, it would be a challenge but she can do it. Come on Sandra, you are a 'wise latina' :upsidedow
 
Parv acts like a Disney Princess when she talks, with the smile and she turns her body, she uses that sweet voice, hahaha, fake princess.
 
Well this time it was Sandra who won! Russ wanted Courtney out and oops!!

No, he wanted Coach out (Coach did not vote for Rob to go which was against Russell), and wants Coach's jury vote. ;) He knew Coach would go with the girls vote.
 
I am actually confused at what happened. Russell ended up voting for Courtney, not Coach, so I was unsure as to why several others voted for him (besides Sandra and Courtney.) I didn't happen to catch the voting recap, but I am assuming that Danielle(a?) voted him out.
 
Has anyone watched the interviews of each contestant that were filmed before? Below the film is a biography of each contestant.

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/bio/danielle_20/bio.php

Danielle's says~~ Previous Survivor She Respects Least: Russell Hantz (Samoa)

I thought that they filmed before Samoa aired. :confused3

If that's the case, do you think that she respects him least because she never saw him play?

Edited to add...

I kept watching the other video and I had no idea that JT and Sugar were dating before they filmed. How did I miss that?
Wow, I had no idea! They never let on anything...
 
No, he wanted Coach out (Coach did not vote for Rob to go which was against Russell), and wants Coach's jury vote. ;) He knew Coach would go with the girls vote.

Russel & his pawns were supposed to vote for Courtney, not Coach this time. At 1st Russell wanted Coach out, but right before tribal council Danielle swayed him (after he told her he wouldn't change his mind). In the end it was Parvati that flipped & voted for Coach, not Courtney, which sent Coach home. Parv has her own agenda here, she's not stupid. Just like Jeff said in his blog - when Ruseell had one iota of doubt about Parv he should have run with that gut instinct - instead his ego got in the way & it never crossed his mind that Parv would go against him. I think she has a Plan B & going against Russell in this week's vote was the start. I bet that was in interesting walk back to camp once Russell realized his precious Parv went against his demands & didn't vote for Courtney. I wouldn't doubt if Parv IS behind an all-girl alliance from this point on.

Although with editing who knows what really happened...Russell didn't seem shocked that Coach went, even though he told his co-horts to vote for Courtney, so maybe something went on behind the scenes that they didn't show.
 














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