Summer school/staying back

[sweet angel]

The thread about the kids who don't want to do homework and therefore do poorly in school (mine, as well the the more recent ones) got me wondering.

In my town, they will not hold a student back in high school. They either take the class at summer school (for a fee) or repeat the class the following year.

This doesn't make any sense to me. I always told my son that I would not pay for summer school because why should I have to part with MY hard-earned money so he could do something he should have done the first time around. I told him if that was the case, he'd just stay back. I was flabbergasted when he and the guidance counselor informed me that they don't hold anyone back.

Does your school do this? Where is the logic?

 

[Nite0wl71]

Our high school don't actually hold anyone back either. If you failed them your first year the next year you are still considered a sophomore taking some freshman classes.

The thing is you still have to re-take the class to pass that class to graduate. So after 4 years you are a senior but say you failed 1 year of math and 1 year of History, you have to keep going to school until you take and pass those 2 classes. So you may be there 5 years but the last year only taking 2 classes. Also if it is an elective you can take a different one to earn your credits.

 

[irishbosoxfan]

I'm dealing with the summer school issue for my oldest son in Mass right now--This is what I was told--He is a freshman this year and failed completely the first 2 semesters forcing him to be removed from the school(it was a private business high school not public) he then went to the public high school--they said if DS failed the first 2 semesters with a 50 or roundabouts there is a good chance he will be able to make up ONLY the english and math for his freshman year as they do not offer full summer school for anyone less than a senior--But he will not be a full sophmore next year but rather in special classes to help him catch up on what he missed by failing this year while helping him to maintain his sophmore year average--If he does well w/the special classes the beginning of next year he will be a regular sophmore by the middle of the year--If he failed the first 2 semesters with a 20 or thereabouts he will be required to retake the whole year because with only 2 courses available to lower classmen theres no way he would be able to make up enough for his failure the first 2 semesters

 

[powellrj]

its like that at our school. You take the classes until you pass them, so you still have seniors taking freshman english if they haven't passed it. Summer school and correspondence school are usually the only choice you have. Summer school is usually cheaper than correspondence school.

 

[sweet angel]

I'm glad it's not just the school here.

Does anyone understand the logic behind this? IS there logic behind this?

Back when I was in school (100 years ago), very few kids went to summer school, and even fewer stayed back. There was a huge stigma placed on both things. I don't understand how/why things have changed so much.

 

[crz4mm2]

DS did summer school all his high school summers. He would not have graduated without it.... I hated to pay for it, but it was our only option. Otherwise he would not have graduated. It was punishment for him! He hated school so had to go in the summer!

 

[Nite0wl71]

I think it has to do with the mandatory classes. When I was in school you only needed 2 years of math, 3 of English, 1 science etc, so you had 4 years to complete them, you just took less electives. Now the kids need 4 years of English, 3-4 math etc so there is no time if you fail.

Our school district also offers some of the classes at night schools if you need them, but that is really expensive.

 

[darrose]

A lot of children are already held back before they enter school these days so they are the oldest in their class. Which means a lot more students are 19 when they are seniors. If the high school holds the older students back it would mean that they would be 20 years old before they graduate.
I can understand why high school dont hold back....and instead tries to get them to learn the subject they failed.

 

[kilee]

Ours is the same way. I do understand the age reasoning. My son was just shy of 6 when he started kindergarten (he just missed a very early in the year age cut-off). Then he had to repeat 1st grade because he was having reading issue's and was not up to speed. If my son were to not advance at every grade now on the first try- he'll be 20.5 when he were to graduate high school. Not their fault- but I just don't know (and I worry about this) that I'll have a young man who will stay in high school at 20 yrs old. I actually think about this often, because I have a sweet 13 yr old boy- BUT he really hates school. So, I worry because of the age factor he won't finish.

 

[DawnCt1]

The thread about the kids who don't want to do homework and therefore do poorly in school (mine, as well the the more recent ones) got me wondering.

In my town, they will not hold a student back in high school. They either take the class at summer school (for a fee) or repeat the class the following year.

This doesn't make any sense to me. I always told my son that I would not pay for summer school because why should I have to part with MY hard-earned money so he could do something he should have done the first time around. I told him if that was the case, he'd just stay back. I was flabbergasted when he and the guidance counselor informed me that they don't hold anyone back.

Does your school do this? Where is the logic?

Essentially they are held back because to be a full junior or senior you have to have the appropriate amount of credits. I also told DS I would not pay for summer school. It is work he should have done in during the school year. He desperately wanted to go to summer school last summer so he paid for it. He did well and I think in part because he did pay for it. The bottom line is, whether your high school "holds anyone back" or not, they can't graduate without the appropriate amount of credits.