Strange family question Update 7/31/16

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This is a "how would you feel" type question. All comments whether good or bad are welcome because I'm trying to get at the root of my feelings.

So here's my question: would it irritate you if your sister friended your ex husband and his new gf on Facebook? I just couldn't see myself friending any of my relative's ex's knowing the circumstances.



I was married/dated my now ex for 18 years. We had 4 children. When my youngest was 1, my ex didn't come home all night and then when he did (at 6am to get dressed for work) he acted nonchalant. He told me had was having an affair with a 21 year old. Found out a little later she was pregnant. We divorced. He was in management with a major company (based out of Atlanta). I have no idea what happened but he was asked to go after the divorce. When we were married, the franchise owners loved him. He got a new job right away with a private person so I couldn't verify his income. He paid very little child support for 5 years. I finally subpeoned the DA for his income without his knowledge. We went back to court and he told the judge his low income again and this man from the back said "your honor, the DA's office was subpeoned and he is making 3x (gave exact figure). My ex just glared at me. My child support went up $500 a month. I just started crying because I couldn't believe this person would do this. Since it was now garnished through the DA, he had no choice. His employer now had to send his income to the DA.

Fast forward 5 years and I still have the last child at home at 14. Ex gets into a wreck and is now on disability. Child support stops. I can live with that, not well but could understand it. He gets better and instead of getting job, he starts working construction under the table. He pretty much got out of paying the last 2 years of child support.

All this time, my sister has been semi friendly with him. She would even go up and talk to his new wife. I have to keep all of this aside and not say anything so as not to cause bad feelings for my kids. 2 of my kids are ok with their dad, the two middle one are ok but hold resentment. Nothing I said, they were just old enough to have a dad that was there all the time to one who moved from my house to this other womans and not pay much attention to them for a few years. Anyway, we are civil and say hello as he was coming to my oldest son's home for holidays for a few hours (without new wife). That's where our grandkids are. The last few years, new wife found herself a new boyfriend so my ex was single again. He rectified that and found a new gf and moved 2 hours away.

My older sister and I have always had a strained relationship. She talks down to me. It's an odd situation. Holidays she is also at my son's house. My grandkids sports, she is there. I can walk into a café and she can ignore me but if we are watching my grandkids play baseball and she has dirt on the rest of the family, then she holds an hour long conversation with me. It's one of those situations where I can ask her something and she ignores me and then finally says WHAT???? in a loud snotty tone. Yet Joe Blow off the street could ask her a question and she would be smiling and friendly.


Before it's stated I didn't give all info, I'm giving as much as I can think of.
1. Our oldest sister who has passed away was married for 40 years to my ex's brother. My ex and my sister's husband's family lived across from us for 10 years growing up. The sister I'm confused about didn't hang around with them as no one was her age. She hung around with the two girls that lived on the two sides of his house.
2. It was mentioned by a couple of my kids that they thought she was jealous because all 4 of my kids turned out well and her's was a little flightly (hopefully that just changed as he had a baby last week-well his gf did).
3. When my mom passed away, we got into a screaming match at the ballpark because my sister felt my mom paid more attention to my kids. On the surface I can see it but she knows what the deal was. My dad passed in 84 and my mom watched my kids as she isn't one to have a lot of friends and was lonely. I think it gave her purpose.

Ok. I think that's all the information and shouldn't do the "oh I forgot to say" to try to justify my side.
 
This is a "how would you feel" type question. All comments whether good or bad are welcome because I'm trying to get at the root of my feelings.

So here's my question: would it irritate you if your sister friended your ex husband and his new gf on Facebook? I just couldn't see myself friending any of my relative's ex's knowing the circumstances.



I was married/dated my now ex for 18 years. We had 4 children. When my youngest was 1, my ex didn't come home all night and then when he did (at 6am to get dressed for work) he acted nonchalant. He told me had was having an affair with a 21 year old. Found out a little later she was pregnant. We divorced. He was in management with a major company (based out of Atlanta). I have no idea what happened but he was asked to go after the divorce. When we were married, the franchise owners loved him. He got a new job right away with a private person so I couldn't verify his income. He paid very little child support for 5 years. I finally subpeoned the DA for his income without his knowledge. We went back to court and he told the judge his low income again and this man from the back said "your honor, the DA's office was subpeoned and he is making 3x (gave exact figure). My ex just glared at me. My child support went up $500 a month. I just started crying because I couldn't believe this person would do this. Since it was now garnished through the DA, he had no choice. His employer now had to send his income to the DA.

Fast forward 5 years and I still have the last child at home at 14. Ex gets into a wreck and is now on disability. Child support stops. I can live with that, not well but could understand it. He gets better and instead of getting job, he starts working construction under the table. He pretty much got out of paying the last 2 years of child support.

All this time, my sister has been semi friendly with him. She would even go up and talk to his new wife. I have to keep all of this aside and not say anything so as not to cause bad feelings for my kids. 2 of my kids are ok with their dad, the two middle one are ok but hold resentment. Nothing I said, they were just old enough to have a dad that was there all the time to one who moved from my house to this other womans and not pay much attention to them for a few years. Anyway, we are civil and say hello as he was coming to my oldest son's home for holidays for a few hours (without new wife). That's where our grandkids are. The last few years, new wife found herself a new boyfriend so my ex was single again. He rectified that and found a new gf and moved 2 hours away.

My older sister and I have always had a strained relationship. She talks down to me. It's an odd situation. Holidays she is also at my son's house. My grandkids sports, she is there. I can walk into a café and she can ignore me but if we are watching my grandkids play baseball and she has dirt on the rest of the family, then she holds an hour long conversation with me. It's one of those situations where I can ask her something and she ignores me and then finally says WHAT???? in a loud snotty tone. Yet Joe Blow off the street could ask her a question and she would be smiling and friendly.


Before it's stated I didn't give all info, I'm giving as much as I can think of.
1. Our oldest sister who has passed away was married for 40 years to my ex's brother. My ex and my sister's husband's family lived across from us for 10 years growing up. The sister I'm confused about didn't hang around with them as no one was her age. She hung around with the two girls that lived on the two sides of his house.
2. It was mentioned by a couple of my kids that they thought she was jealous because all 4 of my kids turned out well and her's was a little flightly (hopefully that just changed as he had a baby last week-well his gf did).
3. When my mom passed away, we got into a screaming match at the ballpark because my sister felt my mom paid more attention to my kids. On the surface I can see it but she knows what the deal was. My dad passed in 84 and my mom watched my kids as she isn't one to have a lot of friends and was lonely. I think it gave her purpose.

Ok. I think that's all the information and shouldn't do the "oh I forgot to say" to try to justify my side.




From what I've read it's not surprising that your sister friended him.

Given the past history of ignoring you (but being miss social Chatty Cathy with everyone else) it seems she enjoys getting under your skin.

This is a new way to do that.

Some people are so unhappy that they get happiness from watching other people suffer. From what I can gather from your post, she is one of those people.

No matter what you do you'll never "win." She will keep coming up with ways to hurt you. IMHO, don't waste your energy since it will likely go no where. Just be the person you are, and keep going.

Easier said than done, but if you let her know it bugs you she'll likely feed off of it.

Good luck.
 
This is a "how would you feel" type question. All comments whether good or bad are welcome because I'm trying to get at the root of my feelings.

So here's my question: would it irritate you if your sister friended your ex husband and his new gf on Facebook? I just couldn't see myself friending any of my relative's ex's knowing the circumstances.



I was married/dated my now ex for 18 years. We had 4 children. When my youngest was 1, my ex didn't come home all night and then when he did (at 6am to get dressed for work) he acted nonchalant. He told me had was having an affair with a 21 year old. Found out a little later she was pregnant. We divorced. He was in management with a major company (based out of Atlanta). I have no idea what happened but he was asked to go after the divorce. When we were married, the franchise owners loved him. He got a new job right away with a private person so I couldn't verify his income. He paid very little child support for 5 years. I finally subpeoned the DA for his income without his knowledge. We went back to court and he told the judge his low income again and this man from the back said "your honor, the DA's office was subpeoned and he is making 3x (gave exact figure). My ex just glared at me. My child support went up $500 a month. I just started crying because I couldn't believe this person would do this. Since it was now garnished through the DA, he had no choice. His employer now had to send his income to the DA.

Fast forward 5 years and I still have the last child at home at 14. Ex gets into a wreck and is now on disability. Child support stops. I can live with that, not well but could understand it. He gets better and instead of getting job, he starts working construction under the table. He pretty much got out of paying the last 2 years of child support.

All this time, my sister has been semi friendly with him. She would even go up and talk to his new wife. I have to keep all of this aside and not say anything so as not to cause bad feelings for my kids. 2 of my kids are ok with their dad, the two middle one are ok but hold resentment. Nothing I said, they were just old enough to have a dad that was there all the time to one who moved from my house to this other womans and not pay much attention to them for a few years. Anyway, we are civil and say hello as he was coming to my oldest son's home for holidays for a few hours (without new wife). That's where our grandkids are. The last few years, new wife found herself a new boyfriend so my ex was single again. He rectified that and found a new gf and moved 2 hours away.

My older sister and I have always had a strained relationship. She talks down to me. It's an odd situation. Holidays she is also at my son's house. My grandkids sports, she is there. I can walk into a café and she can ignore me but if we are watching my grandkids play baseball and she has dirt on the rest of the family, then she holds an hour long conversation with me. It's one of those situations where I can ask her something and she ignores me and then finally says WHAT???? in a loud snotty tone. Yet Joe Blow off the street could ask her a question and she would be smiling and friendly.


Before it's stated I didn't give all info, I'm giving as much as I can think of.
1. Our oldest sister who has passed away was married for 40 years to my ex's brother. My ex and my sister's husband's family lived across from us for 10 years growing up. The sister I'm confused about didn't hang around with them as no one was her age. She hung around with the two girls that lived on the two sides of his house.
2. It was mentioned by a couple of my kids that they thought she was jealous because all 4 of my kids turned out well and her's was a little flightly (hopefully that just changed as he had a baby last week-well his gf did).
3. When my mom passed away, we got into a screaming match at the ballpark because my sister felt my mom paid more attention to my kids. On the surface I can see it but she knows what the deal was. My dad passed in 84 and my mom watched my kids as she isn't one to have a lot of friends and was lonely. I think it gave her purpose.

Ok. I think that's all the information and shouldn't do the "oh I forgot to say" to try to justify my side.
If I'm understanding correctly, your sister has known your ex for a few decades? If that is correct, honestly I don't find it strange at all. That's a long time to know someone and some people can separate relationships more easily than others. Would it bug me? I can't really say. My sister has known my DH for over 27 years and I have known hers for over 25. At this point they are like bonus brothers, do you just cut someone off that has become your family? I'd like to think if BIL cheated on my Sis it would be the end of that relationship but they have kids together so I'd take that into consideration as well. But really, it's Facebook, some people friend everybody, it doesn't mean they're besties. I would hope it's something I could let go.
 

Wow, lots of drama - short answer: yes, it would bother me.
^^This. It would hurt but it wouldn't surprise me, given how you describe the relationship between you and her.

My DH's sister was his ex's MoH when she married the man she left DH for. Many years before I came on the scene, but the story still makes me :sad2:.
 
Ignorance is bliss.

When you really think about it, what difference does it make in your life that she checked a little box on FB that said "friend"

Pretend for a moment that you don't use FB therefore you never saw that she friended him. Would this be having any impact on your life right now?..... No, because you would not have ever known about it. Find a way to get to that place and this will be no longer be an issue.
 
No it would not bother me whom my sister decides to friend. On facebook or in real life.

I do not control who any of my family or friends interact with and they don't control my friends.
 
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^^This. It would hurt but it wouldn't surprise me, given how you describe the relationship between you and her.

My DH's sister was his ex's MoH when she married the man she left DH for. Many years before I came on the scene, but the story still makes me :sad2:.
MoH? That's a new one for me. What does that mean?
 
I appreciate all the replies and read them all. I am not and will not say anything to her as I am a "fixer" person, don't enjoy conflict within family dynamics. After I typed that all, I thought about it and thinking my problem is that my sister is friending someone who hurt me both mentally and cheating on the support and by her friending him, it's as if she doesn't have my back. I know that is probably stupid thinking but I think it's honest thinking. (if that makes any sense). I'm going to therapy for my PTSD and learning honest thinking :eek: Sometimes it's difficult to admit what you're really thinking deep down.
 
I think it's great that all these people can say it wouldn't bother them. I try not to get caught up in who talks to, is friends with whom, etc. but family? Yeah, that would sting.

I come from a pretty ride or die family so if somebody did such crappy things to anybody in my family it would be a big *insert expletive here* for somebody to be friends with them on Facebook or otherwise and would not go over well. It sounds like this isn't limited to FB and she also has an in-person friendship.

I certainly don't think it's unreasonable for you to be hurt. You're still dealing with your ex's shady behavior and the emotional and financial upheaval he caused.
 
I would be hurt (it's ok to have emotions) however, I would not be surprised based on how she has been presented here. As my DH says to our kids often, it's 5 percent what happens to you and 95 percent how you react to it. Even if you are hurt dig deep and try to figure out the best way to react or even better not react. Consider the source.
 
The way I see it , she is friending him to 1) make you mad & 2) you said she talks to you when she has dirt on someone - which she will now probably tell you everything about him just to make you mad. The best thing you can do is act like it doesn't bother you when she talks about him. Yes I would be mad. Family , especially a sister should have your back, especially when he has not been 100% responsible with the kids.
 
This is a "how would you feel" type question. All comments whether good or bad are welcome because I'm trying to get at the root of my feelings.

So here's my question: would it irritate you if your sister friended your ex husband and his new gf on Facebook? I just couldn't see myself friending any of my relative's ex's knowing the circumstances.



I was married/dated my now ex for 18 years. We had 4 children. When my youngest was 1, my ex didn't come home all night and then when he did (at 6am to get dressed for work) he acted nonchalant. He told me had was having an affair with a 21 year old. Found out a little later she was pregnant. We divorced. He was in management with a major company (based out of Atlanta). I have no idea what happened but he was asked to go after the divorce. When we were married, the franchise owners loved him. He got a new job right away with a private person so I couldn't verify his income. He paid very little child support for 5 years. I finally subpeoned the DA for his income without his knowledge. We went back to court and he told the judge his low income again and this man from the back said "your honor, the DA's office was subpeoned and he is making 3x (gave exact figure). My ex just glared at me. My child support went up $500 a month. I just started crying because I couldn't believe this person would do this. Since it was now garnished through the DA, he had no choice. His employer now had to send his income to the DA.

Fast forward 5 years and I still have the last child at home at 14. Ex gets into a wreck and is now on disability. Child support stops. I can live with that, not well but could understand it. He gets better and instead of getting job, he starts working construction under the table. He pretty much got out of paying the last 2 years of child support.

All this time, my sister has been semi friendly with him. She would even go up and talk to his new wife. I have to keep all of this aside and not say anything so as not to cause bad feelings for my kids. 2 of my kids are ok with their dad, the two middle one are ok but hold resentment. Nothing I said, they were just old enough to have a dad that was there all the time to one who moved from my house to this other womans and not pay much attention to them for a few years. Anyway, we are civil and say hello as he was coming to my oldest son's home for holidays for a few hours (without new wife). That's where our grandkids are. The last few years, new wife found herself a new boyfriend so my ex was single again. He rectified that and found a new gf and moved 2 hours away.

My older sister and I have always had a strained relationship. She talks down to me. It's an odd situation. Holidays she is also at my son's house. My grandkids sports, she is there. I can walk into a café and she can ignore me but if we are watching my grandkids play baseball and she has dirt on the rest of the family, then she holds an hour long conversation with me. It's one of those situations where I can ask her something and she ignores me and then finally says WHAT???? in a loud snotty tone. Yet Joe Blow off the street could ask her a question and she would be smiling and friendly.


Before it's stated I didn't give all info, I'm giving as much as I can think of.
1. Our oldest sister who has passed away was married for 40 years to my ex's brother. My ex and my sister's husband's family lived across from us for 10 years growing up. The sister I'm confused about didn't hang around with them as no one was her age. She hung around with the two girls that lived on the two sides of his house.
2. It was mentioned by a couple of my kids that they thought she was jealous because all 4 of my kids turned out well and her's was a little flightly (hopefully that just changed as he had a baby last week-well his gf did).
3. When my mom passed away, we got into a screaming match at the ballpark because my sister felt my mom paid more attention to my kids. On the surface I can see it but she knows what the deal was. My dad passed in 84 and my mom watched my kids as she isn't one to have a lot of friends and was lonely. I think it gave her purpose.

Ok. I think that's all the information and shouldn't do the "oh I forgot to say" to try to justify my side.


So your sister is close and has a relationship with your son, who also has a relationship with his dad. Your Sister also is related to your Ex thru your other sister being part of your exes extended family, and your ex presumably also has a relationship with his brother (who was married to your other sister). Am I on track so far?

Here's the thing: as crappy as your ex has behaved for years (and there's no debating that), he's still part of your sisters extended family (and yours, unfortunately for you). Just because you have no desire to interact with him and you think he's a jerk (again, I"m not arguing that fact with you), doesn't mean that everyone else in your family has to banish him, especially if they end up interacting with him at your kids events and functions. Just because your sister is friends with him on Facebook doesn't mean they are best friends.

Now I will say that yes,I probably would be hurt by it, but I think you need to not take it so personally. Just because you hate him (wih plenty of justification, it seems) doesn't mean that everyone else in your family has to hate him, too. She might just be being polite/friendly with him for your kids sakes.

I think you should do your best to let it roll off your back and let it go.
 
when you break up with a spouse or lover its proper edict for everyone in your family to cease and desist contact with said party


That's a lot of big words there! ;)

Yes, it's honest thinking to admit that it burns your britches that she did that. You owned that. Now what? Well, you need to get past caring what happens to this guy. Live your life, not all these other people's. That means not caring who is on your sister's friend list in Facebook. It's just shouldn't be that important in the grand scheme of things.
 
It's not odd to me that she would 'friend' or be cordial to the father of her nieces/nephews. She doesn't need to cut him out of her life just because he hurt you and you're blood relatives. If there were no kids involved then she may not be involved with your ex husband at all, but since your kids have their dad in their life your ex husband is part of that, even for extended relatives.
 

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