Steve Irwin (crocodile hunter) dies..........

sha_lyn said:
OMG. The woman just lost her husband and has no obligation what so ever to hold a public service.

Exactly, screw those whiney jerks if they would turn on her for something like this. Shows where their hearts really are. :sad2:
 
lclark0621 said:
Yeah, but it makes sense she would want to have it there. I mean, anyone who ever watched him on tv, knows that is where his heart was & that is where he would have wanted something like this. He loved his zoo...It was his life's work. Of course his memorial would be there.

I kind of figured that is where it was going to be as soon as I heard about it. It was one of those "Where else would they possibly hold a memorial for Steve Irwin, but at HIS zoo?".

I think Terri is doing exactly what Steve would have wanted. Yes this memorial is for all those who loved him. But this was her husband, her family, her decission. And I think she made the best one for Steve, herself & her kids. Really, isn't that all that matters?

I totally, completely agree. The very fact that she's willing to go through with a public event like this so soon after losing her husband is amazing. I know I couldn't do it.
 
For those of you who are having a hard time finding information, go to news.com.au. It encompasses all of the major print organisations in Australia and has had many articles about Steve Irwin. It shouldn't be too hard to dig up all sorts of stuff.

Plus, you can read up on our fascinating state politics ;)
 
lclark0621 said:
I think Terri is doing exactly what Steve would have wanted. Yes this memorial is for all those who loved him. But this was her husband, her family, her decission. And I think she made the best one for Steve, herself & her kids. Really, isn't that all that matters?

I am in 100% agreement with you ... making the best decision for her family is all that matters.

I can't even imagine losing my husband, being left with small children, having the zoo employees dependent on you for their livelihood ...

If anything, making the decision with her family in mind, doing what Steve would have wanted and having the memorial at the zoo, maybe not the most popular decison ... IMO it makes her a stronger a person for going with what she believes in. There are plenty of regrets in my life because I made the popular decison and didn't go with what I really wanted to do.

As for the "troublemakers" ... shame on them!
 

Nutsy said:
I knew it would come to this and there are a lot of disappointed people out there and maybe just maybe, Terri may have lost fans by taking this road.

A lot of people we've spoken to in recent days are disappointed in the venue.. if the Crocoseum held 3 times as many people it wouldn't be so bad.. but when it only holds 5,500 and only 3,000 of those seats are allocated to the general public it's not a very good image Terri is portraying.

To the first that I highlighted in red: then they weren't truly fans...and who cares.

To the second I highlighted in blue: She JUST buried her husband a week ago and is doing a PUBLIC memorial...tell me again about her image??!! It's about Terri and her family's peace, and Steve's TRUE fans will understand her decision. Forgive me Nutsy as you have given FABULOUS info to us all here, but I thought you of all people would respect her of that. :sad2: I'm not flaming you, just respectfully disagreeing. I hope you understand. :blush:
 
It's not me you should be disagreeing with tho.

Yes, I am disappointed in the outcome of all this. I have no problem with it being held at the zoo.. it's the seating capacity of the Crocoseum and only 3,000 of the 5,500 seats allocated to the general public. People lined up for 24 hrs to get a ticket and so many missed out.

Terri had said that there would be huge screen set up in the Zoo car park.. she had now withdrawn that... so, yeah a lot of Aussies are wondering what the heck is going on.

We understand all too well that she has lost her hubby and are deeply saddened by Steve's passing. Howver, it has been said my some here (people who knew Steve personally) that Steve would have wanted the pubic to have the opportunity to say their farewells at a public memorial.

It's not about the service it's that most of the public (except for the lucky 3,000) will miss out and have to watch it on tv or go somewhere where they are having a huge screen televising it.

Yes, they can still watch it...but watching it on a screen you don't get the atsmosphere you get seeing it in the flesh.


I hope you all understand a bit better now.. Nobody has not thought of Terri and the children.. however, it was her decision to talk at the service and to have Bindi speak as well.... the public did not expect that or ask that of her.

So, like I said. We are not anti Terri or the service or the zoo.. just the fact that the crocoseum only seats 5,500 and 2,500 of those seats have been allocated to family (no probs), staff (no probs) and big shots.
 
Just to word it all a bit differently and to ask you all a question and please do think about it before you jump in.

First of all... Can any of you honestly say that were the situation reversed and this was happening near you and there was limited seats and thousands of people and perhaps yourselves included had to be content with watching it on tv. Would you be to so quick to say it's ok, Terri is doing the right thing.

Or maybe if you've ever really really wanted to see someone pefrorm live, but for some reason you were unable to, and it was going to be telecast on tv and you had to be content with that.. Would you be happy that you couldn't share in the live atmosphere and can you say that watching it on tv is just the same?

Steve was a very public figure and I honestly believe as do lots of Aussies, that he would have wanted as many as possible to be able to say farwell and to be able to share the atmosphere of his memorial service.

That is all we wanted.. to be able to say good bye.. is that so bad? Is so bad to wish Terri had gone with the original venue that had been agreed upon, which was accessable to everyone?

I won't bother you all again.. I'm sorry you all feel we are whingers, because we would like the chance to say goodbye to a larger than life Aussie icon... one of our own .. who was in a lot of ways.. the face of Australia:sad2:

Enjoy the memorial service
 
Something else to bag us Aussies about.

Some of those who got tickets to the memorial service were trying to make a quick buck and sell them on E-Bay for $100 plus. The sales never went through tho.. E-Bay removed them.


See what a lovely lot we are.
 
I have to CHime in here

I have been reading along the thread

and I have to say

JMHO

First I understand it is Teri's right to have or not have the service for her husband and i think that all the locals there agree BUT having said that
if your going to have a "public" memorial it makes sense to have it where as many of Steve's fellow countryman could go and honor him
I think that the orginal venue made alot more sense for a public memeorial
Yes the crocuseum meant alot to Steve and his family but Steve meant alot to the People and they should have a chance to say good bye too

I think Steve wouldn't have wanted people to have the bad feeling that seem to be coming from this

I am glad ebay removed the ticket sales I am not surprised people tried to make a buck on them

Over all this is a sad thing :guilty:
 
I've been following this thread from the beginning, and I hate to see it come to an abrupt end because of differing viewpoints and hurt feelings. We all came together on this thread because we all felt a loss of someone that, even though we didn't really know him, seemed to be part of our family.

I think if we could, we would all be on the front row of his memorial service. We would all be offering to help Terri, Bindi, and baby Bob in anyway that we could. Heck, us from the south would bring some food for them so that they don't have to cook for a while!

But, as with any funeral/memorial the close family has made decisions that we all don't necessarily agree with. I see it two ways, we would all love to be there in a huge place where all of the fans could come together and comfort one another and celebrate his life. On the other hand, I can see Terri's point of view. A little over two weeks after her soul mate has died, she is going to address the world. Not just his friends, not just his family, not just his country, but the entire world... and so is his 8 year old daughter. I can understand her need to keep the people that she is going to have to stand in front of at a size that she is comfortable with, and in an environment that the children are comfortable with. It is as if she is bringing us all into the home of her and her children. She is bringing us to a place that she and her husband loved and raised their family.

Nutsy, please, for those of us that have been following this thread from the beginning, waking up each morning to see what you have posted, please keep posting updates for us. It is no longer being talked about on the news here in the US and I very much look forward to seeing your posts each morning. :grouphug:
 
dmslush said:
I've been following this thread from the beginning, and I hate to see it come to an abrupt end because of differing viewpoints and hurt feelings. We all came together on this thread because we all felt a loss of someone that, even though we didn't really know him, seemed to be part of our family.

I think if we could, we would all be on the front row of his memorial service. We would all be offering to help Terri, Bindi, and baby Bob in anyway that we could. Heck, us from the south would bring some food for them so that they don't have to cook for a while!

But, as with any funeral/memorial the close family has made decisions that we all don't necessarily agree with. I see it two ways, we would all love to be there in a huge place where all of the fans could come together and comfort one another and celebrate his life. On the other hand, I can see Terri's point of view. A little over two weeks after her soul mate has died, she is going to address the world. Not just his friends, not just his family, not just his country, but the entire world... and so is his 8 year old daughter. I can understand her need to keep the people that she is going to have to stand in front of at a size that she is comfortable with, and in an environment that the children are comfortable with. It is as if she is bringing us all into the home of her and her children. She is bringing us to a place that she and her husband loved and raised their family.

Nutsy, please, for those of us that have been following this thread from the beginning, waking up each morning to see what you have posted, please keep posting updates for us. It is no longer being talked about on the news here in the US and I very much look forward to seeing your posts each morning. :grouphug:

ITA…I couldn’t have said it better myself.
Please keep us posted. :grouphug:
 
I'm sitting here trying to figure out how Terri can have something small enough she can deal with, and yet big enough for the people to be there. I understand her needing it to be held "down" to 5,000 people. I really don't know if I could do it.
But for the very same reason that they want to be there for the memorial, he touched the hearts of people. Maybe there needs to be a second memorial. Maybe this one she doesn't have to stand there and face everyone.
I don't imagine there is a facility big enough to please everyone, but personally, I think a bigger one would be a better idea.

Nutsy, I'm sorry your feelings are hurt, but please, I really appreciate all your work and posts here.
And in asking you continue to post, I just proved your point. :)
 
I've appreciated the info being provided, but just can't seem to stomach the editorializing anymore. I'll go directly to other sources now.
 
I was just wondering if the Memorial will be shown in the USA? Does anyone know any of those details?

Thank you!


:grouphug: Steve
 
Nutsy said:
First of all... Can any of you honestly say that were the situation reversed and this was happening near you and there was limited seats and thousands of people and perhaps yourselves included had to be content with watching it on tv. Would you be to so quick to say it's ok, Terri is doing the right thing.

We have had deeply loved presidents die, famous icons die, etc. etc. - and no we don't get to go to the funeral....as much as we'd love it

Nutsy said:
That is all we wanted.. to be able to say good bye.. is that so bad? Is so bad to wish Terri had gone with the original venue that had been agreed upon, which was accessable to everyone?

Seems to me, you can say good-bye the way you got to know him...on tv.... and also seems to me, that TERRI never agreed with you where the venue would be. It was stated many times that no decision had been finalized...when it was made then we all knew her decision. Lets respect it - I feel so bad for her...lost a husband and now beign critisized....

Emotions can make people get overly excited by things...but lets face it most people who want to go did not actually know the man and watching the service on TV will let them be included, pay thier respcets, but also, it will be appropriate for most.

We all wish his family and his country well.
 
I dont think anyone is flaming anyone on this thread. And I hope no feelings are hurt. I think there is just a difference of opinion. I really hope no one leaves the thread over this. No one is attacking anyone.

First of all... Can any of you honestly say that were the situation reversed and this was happening near you and there was limited seats and thousands of people and perhaps yourselves included had to be content with watching it on tv. Would you be to so quick to say it's ok, Terri is doing the right thing.

Or maybe if you've ever really really wanted to see someone pefrorm live, but for some reason you were unable to, and it was going to be telecast on tv and you had to be content with that.. Would you be happy that you couldn't share in the live atmosphere and can you say that watching it on tv is just the same?

Steve was a very public figure and I honestly believe as do lots of Aussies, that he would have wanted as many as possible to be able to say farwell and to be able to share the atmosphere of his memorial service.

That is all we wanted.. to be able to say good bye.. is that so bad? Is so bad to wish Terri had gone with the original venue that had been agreed upon, which was accessable to everyone?

Lots of public & beloved figures have died all over the world. And most of us have never been able to attend any sort of memorial or funeral for those people. Yes, we all want to say goodbye to people we love. But these public figures also have families. And those people want to say goodbye to the people they love to.

I think the fact that Terri offered 3000 tickets to the general public, was a real gift. She didn't have to do any sort of memorial. But she is, for the man she loved & the people who loved him.

These "big shots" she held tickets for, may not be important to the general public, but they were important to her. And since it was her husband who died, we really need to just respect her choices.

Yep, I have missed memorials. I missed countless concerts. That is the way of things. I accept it because I have no right to demand otherwise. If there is a memorial for a public figure on tv, yes I am content to watch. Because frankly, while I may have been a fan, I have no right to put my demands on a grieving family who has no idea who I am.

I watched Princess Diana's funeral on tv & was content with that. I had no right to demand to be there, I have no right to demand to be at Steve's memorial. If you are given the opportunity to be AT a memorial for a public figure you love, consider yourself lucky. The family did not HAVE to offer ANY seating to the general public. But they are trying to give some people a chance.

Yes people lined up for 24 hours, but that was their choice. They also knew there were only 3,000 tickets available & were taking a chance.

In situations like this, it is always sad when people turn on those who are truly grieving. Terri could not have satisfied everyone. She had to do what was best for her & her kids.

And who knows how this went? What if Bindi wanted it at the zoo? Would the people be turning on her because she wanted this?

The fact is, the family made the best choice for them. And in a situation like this, that is all you can really expect or want.

Terri is doing her best. She lost her husband, her partner, her soul mate, the father of her children. The fact that she is even doing this memorial is an amazing testimate to her stength & love for her husband.

Like I said earlier, I honestly cant believe there was a debate as to where to hold his memorial. I assumed from the start it would be at his zoo. Where else could a memorial for Steve possibly be held?

I read a qoute earlier, I think it was in People Magazine. It was something to the effect of "all the pressure on Terri is unimaginable. She has her kids, family, employees, fans of Steve. She cant even breath." That broke my heart. Not only does she have to say goodbye to her husband, and help her small children through it, but she has to think about the whole world. Could you imagine the pressure? It would be hard enough to lose your husband. But to lose your husband with the whole world watching & then scurtinizing your every move? It must be incredibly stressful for her. She asked us in a statment read through her father in law, to respect her choice & help her make this wish, a wish she knew would be Steve's, happen. And I think that is what we should do.
 
Irwin's final farewell 'like a pop concert'

IT has become a stage managed public spectacle more like a pop concert than a memorial service.

But then that's the sort of man Steve Irwin was and that's how his fans would best like to remember him.

Free tickets for the Crocodile Hunter's final farewell were snapped up in their thousands by fans who willingly queued overnight to grab them.

It will be the first time, and probably the last, that the Crocodile Hunter's now famous family, his widow Terri, their eight-year-old daughter Bindi, their baby son Bob and his father, also Bob, will appear together in a public arena to share their grief with thousands of others who loved the wildlife warrior dearly.

He died when a stingray plunged its barb into his chest in a freak accident off north Queensland's coast on September 4, prompting shock and disbelief worldwide.

The memorial service, according to Irwin's close friend and former business partner, John Stainton, will be an event his fans will remember for the rest of their lives.

Its duration will be open ended but is expected to last up to an hour, Mr Stainton said today.

It will be held on Wednesday in the 5500 seat Crocoseum at the family's Australia Zoo on Queensland's Sunshine Coast.

Thousands more are expected to cram into a zoo car park to watch the service on large-screen televisions.

Those who missed out on tickets also will be able to watch the service live on massive TV screens erected at South Bank in Brisbane's inner-city and on the Sunshine Coast.

It will also be telecast by ABC TV, Channel 7 and Channel 9.

Mr Stainton said he was “half way through” preparing a eulogy for the farewell.

“I'm writing it as I speak to you now, and I have been on it for the last couple of days,” Mr Stainton told ABC Radio. “I just want to do Steve proud.

“I haven't got to the end yet – I'm sort of half-way through it – I can assure you they will have a service that they will remember for the rest of their lives.”

Terri, Bindi, and Bob, sen, will also speak about many facets of the Aussie icon's life.

Mr Stainton said “quite a few people” from the entertainment world had volunteered to perform at the public memorial service, which will be a celebration of Irwin's life.

Legendary Aussie folksinger John Williamson intends to be one of them, performing Irwin's favourite song, True Blue.

Queensland Premier Peter Beattie has also gladly accepted an invitation to attend.

It's not yet known if Prime Minister John Howard, of whom Irwin was an enthusiastic supporter, will be able to attend.

Yesterday, some people queued for more than 24 hours to secure one of the 3000 tickets, made available to the public at three venues and grabbed within 15 minutes at Australia Zoo.

E-Bay was forced to delist the internet sale of tickets to the memorial service after somebody tried to cash in by selling them.

Meanwhile, a 20-year-old woman has pleaded guilty to one count of fraud, after selling fake Steve Irwin stickers on the Gold Coast.

She appeared this morning in the Southport Magistrate's Court and was fined $200, while her 16-year-old accomplice was officially cautioned.

The court heard the woman had told people she was raising money for the Crocodile Hunter's Wildlife Warriors fund.

The woman and the girl were yesterday approaching people at the Pacific Fair Shopping Centre, Gold Coast, trying to sell the stickers, police said.

Witnesses reported that the pair said they were representing the fund, and were selling the stickers for between three and five dollars.

Suspicious shoppers notified security who approached the pair and contacted police.

Mr Stainton said the fraudulent behaviour was un-Australian.

“Steve would be absolutely appalled by this,” he said.

“The fact that people are cashing in, so to speak, on his legacy, trying to sell stuff like that for fundraising supposedly or even resale of the tickets for the memorial service.

“All of those things are really just not on and they're just not Australian.”
 
Life with the real Steve Irwin

IN this exclusive article, Steve Irwin's friend and business partner John Stainton tells of life with the Crocodile Hunter:

THEY say the best partnership in the world is with two opposites, and you couldn't get two people more opposite than Steve and me.

I was and still am a city slicker. Steve was born to the bush, but somehow, together, we worked.

He spoke about crocs and snakes, and stuff I've got to admit I had absolutely no interest in. But somehow he pulled you in, pulled you in by his sheer energy and enthusiasm and you just couldn't help but get on the roller-coaster ride.

I got on - even though everything he loved, I hated. I absolutely hated camping out. There we'd be in these bloody mosquito-infested swamps, and Steve would be jumping around saying "Isn't this great", and there I'd be Aerogarded up to the eyeballs.

We'd be in exactly the same place, but he'd be in heaven and I'd be in hell.

But you wouldn't swap it for the world, and I guess I want to tell the world how great he was.

I don't know if I can do it, if I can find the words ... but all those years, all those stories, he never missed a beat.

We'd work all night, and then my phone would ring at five o'clock in the morning and it would be Steve, saying: "Come on, mate! What are we doing? We've got to do this, we've got to do that" and I'd be like, "Steve, it's five o'clock in the morning" and he'd say: "I know mate, lets go!"

And if you went, you'd have the time of your life because even though the work you were doing was serious, there was always time for laughter.

Steve loved a practical joke. He'd try to set me up and I'd set him up.

Once, I got him an absolute beauty. I set up this elaborate hoax where I told him there was this Arabian sheikh who wanted to visit the zoo, and who wanted to meet Steve.

I said that it was very important it went smoothly because this sheikh was a passionate conservationist who might want to donate a great deal of money to conservation in Australia.

I hired all these actors to play the roles - the sheikh, the translator and various hangers-on - and Steve agreed to meet him. On the day, you should have seen him. He had no idea how to meet this so-called sheikh.

He was bowing and calling him "your majesty" - he was completely like a fish out of water. Then I had the sheikh say he wanted to see the camels.

Now, the two camels at Australia Zoo were Steve's pride and joy. He loved them; really, really loved them.

So I had the sheikh say through the translator that he wanted those camels.

Steve was devastated, completely taken aback and he was trying to say that no, unfortunately, the sheikh couldn't have them and the translator was saying, "No, the sheikh wants those camels - he must have them."

When we let him in on the joke, Steve never forgave me and never stopped trying to get me back.

We had so many good times like that, but we had tough times, too. I guess what made the rougher times easier was that we had each other.

He watched my back, and I watched his.

We had to look out for each other in different ways. Sometimes, the way he had to look out for me was physical, and he saved my life a couple of times.

I guess the simplest way to describe how we were was that he looked after me in the bush, and I would look after him in the city.

In the bush, sometimes, he would have to shield me against animals that wanted a piece of me, and in the city I tried to shield him against all the people who wanted a piece of him.

I guess it was hardest for him in America, where he literally couldn't leave his hotel room.

He loved Bindi and Bob and Terri like you wouldn't believe, and I don't believe I've ever seen a better father.

If those kids needed him right there, right then, well he'd go, right there, right then. Steve was utterly in love with his children, utterly in awe of his children, and his children are so much their father's son and daughter.

Steve will live on through Terri, through his kids and through his work and, even though reality tells us he's not here himself to do it, I still think that in a way he is.

I know this will sound strange to some people: I think he's still with me.

I'm still looking out for him and he's still looking out for me.

In the past few days when I have struggled, really struggled to find the right words or make the right decisions, I have felt very strongly that he is with me.

When I have sat and cried, I have felt his hand on my shoulder.

He's still beside me, still giving me a kick up the bum when I need it.

For 15 years, we pretty much spent every day together and, if we weren't together, we were talking on the phone. Yet in all those years, there was never a cross word between us.

One thing I would like people to know about Steve, is that he was a man of intellect. His image - that larrikin, happy-go-lucky, rough-and-tumble bloke we all saw on the television - was real, completely fair dinkum, but he was also a deep thinker, a man of great intelligence and a consummate professional.

In the past few days I've had to do things, say things, plan things I never imagined I would, and bringing my mate home in the helicopter and then the aeroplane was one of them.

But it was an absolute privilege. I'm just so honoured that in the roller-coaster we took together over all these years, it was me who rode beside him at the end.
 
momrek06 said:
I was just wondering if the Memorial will be shown in the USA? Does anyone know any of those details?

Thank you!


:grouphug: Steve

Steve Irwin's Memorial Service to Air on Animal Planet Tuesday, September 19th From 9-10 PM ET/PT

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060914/dcth080.html?.v=9

SILVER SPRING, Md., Sept. 14 /PRNewswire/ -- Animal Planet is airing Steve Irwin's memorial service exclusively in the U.S. commercial free on Tuesday, September 19th from 9-10 PM ET/PT, with an encore broadcast airing 12-1 AM ET/PT. The memorial service, entitled STEVE IRWIN: HE CHANGED OUR WORLD, will be a same-day broadcast (with a two-hour delay) of the event Wednesday morning in Australia. In addition, Animal Planet is carrying the memorial service in most of its regions worldwide.

The public memorial service for the beloved animal conservationist and television personality is being held in the "Crocoseum," a 5,500-seat stadium at Irwin's Australia Zoo in Beerwah, Australia. Members of the Irwin Family, as well as Irwin's long-time friend and producer, John Stainton, are expected to speak. Celebrities and dignitaries worldwide are expected to attend.

Two days prior, Animal Planet is airing a 15-hour marathon of Steve Irwin's programs on Sunday, September 17th from Noon to 3 AM ET/PT. Throughout the marathon entitled CROCS RULE!: A TRIBUTE TO STEVE IRWIN, interstitial tributes from Irwin's friends, colleagues and notable supporters will be featured.

Animal Planet, available in more than 89 million homes nationwide, is the only television network dedicated exclusively to the connection between humans and animals. The network brings people of all ages together by tapping into a fundamental fascination with animals through an array of fresh programming that includes humor, competition, drama and spectacle from the animal kingdom. Animal Planet is a property of Discovery Communications, the leading global real-world media and entertainment company. Discovery has grown from its core property, the Discovery Channel, first launched in the United States in 1985, to current global operations in 170 countries and territories with 1.4 billion cumulative subscribers. DCI's over 100 networks of distinctive programming represent 29 network entertainment brands. DCI's other properties consist of Discovery Education and COSMEO, a revolutionary online homework help service, as well as Discovery Commerce, which operates more than 100 Discovery Channel Stores in the U.S. DCI also distributes BBC America in the United States. DCI's ownership consists of four shareholders: Discovery Holding Company (Nasdaq: DISCA - News, DISCB - News), Cox Communications, Inc., Advance/Newhouse Communications and John S. Hendricks, the Company's Founder and Chairman.
 
Nutsy said:
Just to word it all a bit differently and to ask you all a question and please do think about it before you jump in.

First of all... Can any of you honestly say that were the situation reversed and this was happening near you and there was limited seats and thousands of people and perhaps yourselves included had to be content with watching it on tv. Would you be to so quick to say it's ok, Terri is doing the right thing.

Or maybe if you've ever really really wanted to see someone pefrorm live, but for some reason you were unable to, and it was going to be telecast on tv and you had to be content with that.. Would you be happy that you couldn't share in the live atmosphere and can you say that watching it on tv is just the same?

Steve was a very public figure and I honestly believe as do lots of Aussies, that he would have wanted as many as possible to be able to say farwell and to be able to share the atmosphere of his memorial service.

That is all we wanted.. to be able to say good bye.. is that so bad? Is so bad to wish Terri had gone with the original venue that had been agreed upon, which was accessable to everyone?

I won't bother you all again.. I'm sorry you all feel we are whingers, because we would like the chance to say goodbye to a larger than life Aussie icon... one of our own .. who was in a lot of ways.. the face of Australia:sad2:

Enjoy the memorial service

You've made a GREAT point in everything you've mentioned and I honestly don't know how I would feel if I were in one of your shoes as someone saying goodbye to a nation's hero and couldn't live and in person.

HOWEVER, I NEVER thought bad of any of you Aussies for wanting to tell Steve goodbye, I only feel sorry for those trying to cash in on his death. I just don't get it. :sad2: I understand that most of you wanted Terri to go a different direction. Terri thinks Steve would have wanted it at his zoo and others feel he would have wanted most of his fans to be able to say goodbye to him and chose another location. It's too bad Steve's not here to tell us so. :(

I do sincerely hope I'm not the one who ran you off it wasn't my intention. I just read your comment about Terri's poor image as something you may have felt and I thought that weird with all the other WONDERFUL things you have said about the Irwins. :confused3 I apologize Nutsy for hurting your feelings, and hope you still stop by every now and again to let us know a thing or two.

Have a blessed day my friend! :wave:
 















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