SPOILERS welcome!! Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows movie - Part 2

[Missy1961]

We saw the movie today & felt it was hands down the best of the series. Of course nothing could compare to the books, but I don't think there's much I'd even pick at in this movie.

Something occurred to me watching the epilogue. I'm actually disappointed in Jo Rowling not picking up something & putting a big red bow on it for me. We should have seen Dudley Dursley at the station, putting his son or daughter on the Hogwart's express. It would have honored Dudley's change of heart, possibly thrilled Petunia & definitely would have driven Vernon stark raving.

I wonder if she ever contemplated it. Of course it would have been confusing for movie-only fans as I don't think Snape's memories were enough for most to realize the sulking little girl was Petunia.

I've always wanted to know what happened to Dudley. I like your idea!

 

[karly05]

The scene of Narcissa asking the "dead" Harry if Draco lives is one of my favorite bits of the book, and I'm glad it was left in. Once again, Voldy is foiled by love (and is oblivious to it).

Oh, my gosh, by the end of the movie, is there a more pathetic, wretched creature than poor Lucius Malfoy!? That final bit of Mumsy and Draco walking purposefully off to the horizon while Lucius straggles behind, a broken shell of his former self, was just perfect. Oh, how the mighty have fallen... (Totally love Jason Isaacs, BTW.)

Another favorite bit I was so happy made it in: "Here Lies Dobby, a Free Elf."

My biggest biggest BIGGEST gripe - no death for Pettigrew!! When he didn't die at the proper time in Part 1, I thought, OK, they're giving him a better demise in Part 2 - but I don't think we ever even saw him, did we? To me, this was a major omission. I hope we get an explanation for this eventually.

Loved Neville, Snape, and McGonagall, and I really hope that somewhere there's an outtake of Maggie Smith intoning: "Treguna... Mekoides... Trecorum Satis Dee!" then bursting into song while everyone else cracks up.

 

[I Am What I Am]

We saw the movie today & felt it was hands down the best of the series. Of course nothing could compare to the books, but I don't think there's much I'd even pick at in this movie.

Something occurred to me watching the epilogue. I'm actually disappointed in Jo Rowling not picking up something & putting a big red bow on it for me. We should have seen Dudley Dursley at the station, putting his son or daughter on the Hogwart's express. It would have honored Dudley's change of heart, possibly thrilled Petunia & definitely would have driven Vernon stark raving.

I wonder if she ever contemplated it. Of course it would have been confusing for movie-only fans as I don't think Snape's memories were enough for most to realize the sulking little girl was Petunia.

JK has said that she considered having Dudley at 9 and 3/4 but decided against it.

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

For us, this was the best of the movies. The ending, with the broken wand, was better than the book's. I always assumed that JKR ended the book that way to leave the door open for more. They left no such opening in the movie.

A great end to a great series of movies.

 

[Terry36]

 

[Conservative Hippie]

JK has said that she considered having Dudley at 9 and 3/4 but decided against it.

Was Dudley the one who was supposed to come into magic very late in life? I heard about that for a while, and then JKR said she changed her mind.



I thought the movie was brilliant - Exceeds Expectations! I can't wait to see it again. I was really looking forward to Hermione-as-Bellatrix, and I thought it was really well done. My biggest gripe is that Harry doesn't repair his phoenix wand. I thought the 19 years later scene was cute, although all they did was give Hermione and Ginny mom hair. I was in tears pretty much the entire time from when Snape dies to the end. Snape's death and memories were also favorite scenes.

 

[I Am What I Am]

Was Dudley the one who was supposed to come into magic very late in life? I heard about that for a while, and then JKR said she changed her mind.



I thought the movie was brilliant - Exceeds Expectations! I can't wait to see it again. I was really looking forward to Hermione-as-Bellatrix, and I thought it was really well done. My biggest gripe is that Harry doesn't repair his phoenix wand. I thought the 19 years later scene was cute, although all they did was give Hermione and Ginny mom hair. I was in tears pretty much the entire time from when Snape dies to the end. Snape's death and memories were also favorite scenes.

I'm not sure if it was supposed to be him. Did JKR ever say who it was supposed to be?

 

[MrsPete]

For those who know who dies in this one is there a certain death you think will affect you? . . . I think it'll be Snape.

I was disappointed with Snape's death scene in both the book and the movie. He was SUCH an important character, and we had so many reasons to believe he was good /just as many to believe he was bad. Of course, from book 1 there was never any question that he was going to die, but I thought it was a little . . . underwhelming.

Of course, in the book, the final battle is very short, and not very action-filled, so it probably doesn't translate well to cinema. It's very suspenseful, though.

They added to the final battle scene (and changed some things outright), but overall it was well done! I thought Neville stole the battle scene.

Yes, you probably would have felt differently if you had read the book The movies are fantastic, but there is nothing like reading the books.

I agree. We went with a group, and those who hadn't read the books didn't get a whole lot out of it -- I mean, beyond just the action scenes. So much wasn't explained.

I agree-I bet we see an Oscar nod for him for this movie, he was amazing.

The Snape-holding-Lily's body was heartbreaking, but no surprise -- Alan Rickman has been phenomenal in every single minute of this role!

I also loved the opening scene in which he's standing up high watching the students march into the courtyard (so different from previous years, when they walked with friends, sat on the edge of fountains chatting). He's such a complex character, and you can't tell if he's thinking 1) Yes, I finally get to whip this place into shape. or 2) How will I play my part and still protect these students? He packs so much into that silent scene.

By far my favorite scene, (and the only part I really liked of the final battle,) was Mrs. Weasley's and Bellatrix's duel.

I hate that scene on two levels:
1. When she says, "Not my daughter", it really undermines her sons. Of course, the precident has been set: Ginny has many times stood out as the favorite child. Bellatrix has been running around trying to kill the Weasley boys left and right, and that's just part of the overall fight -- but she jumps in when it's Ginny who's threatened? If Molly'd said, "Not another of my children", I'd have felt differently.
2. There's never a reason for vulgar language. It serves no purpose. She can be just as angry and can kill Bellatrix just as well without the bad language.

On the other hand, it was outstanding visually; probably better for people who saw it in 3D.

Small detail: I loved that when the two armies met in the courtyard (when Draco came over to the bad side), that Bellatrix was standing up on some rubble dancing with joy as Voldemorte spoke to the groups. So Bellatrix.

I really thought they'd bring Teddy Lupin in during the 19 Years later scenes, but they didn't. So, why have Lupin mention him at all?

Yeah, I agree. Teddy IS Harry, one generation later: Both lost their parents tragically, have no real memories of them . . . but Teddy's life has been filled with family and love, and seeing him on that train at the end of the book is significant. It shows that Harry's efforts have changed the world, that no more children have to go through what Harry went through.

Something occurred to me watching the epilogue. I'm actually disappointed in Jo Rowling not picking up something & putting a big red bow on it for me. We should have seen Dudley Dursley at the station, putting his son or daughter on the Hogwart's express. It would have honored Dudley's change of heart, possibly thrilled Petunia & definitely would have driven Vernon stark raving.

Oooh, that would've been good.

 

[Conservative Hippie]

I'm not sure if it was supposed to be him. Did JKR ever say who it was supposed to be?

I don't think she ever said. There was speculation it was Dudley, Petunia, or Filch. I always thought Dudley.

 

[Howellsy]

I wasn't angry that he snapped the Elder Wand in two, I was more angry that he didn't fix his own wand first! So angry in fact that I practically shouted, "what's he going to do without his wand?!" as he threw the pieces into the abyss...

I really enjoyed this film but there were tiny alterations that still kept it from being as incredible as it could have. I did not enjoy Harry and Voldemort's final confrontation being in the courtyard - I loved the Great Hall scene from the book so much and had really been looking forward to it. I also love how Neville kills Nagini in the book, and the extended chase by Ron and Hermione took up too much screen time that could have been better used in my opinion. They definitely could have extended the Bellatrix/Molly confrontation, it seemed a little too sudden.

I still get irked by the factual errors too - Helena Ravenclaw did not know that much about the diadem, Ollivander knew nothing about the Hallows and Cho Chang should not still have been in school wearing robes when she should have left the previous year.

 

[Kurby]

I don't think she ever said. There was speculation it was Dudley, Petunia, or Filch. I always thought Dudley.

so i know i'm over analyzing it but if Dudley didn't get his "magic" until he was older who would teach him how to use it and what the spells were?

they get their powers when they are young so they can be taught. if say he didn't get them until his 30's he'd be a complete menace not knowing how to control it or what spells to use.

 

[disneyfav4ever]

I gotta say I think Helen Bohnam Carter did and AMAZING job when she played Hermione pretending to be Beatrix. The manurisms were just so right on, right down to the puppy dog eyes.

I also loved Draco's parents dragging him over when Voldemort called people to step forward, then him sheepishly shuffling over. Tom Felton also really did an excellent job in this series.

I do wish they had shown more of the battles where people were killed, not just Harry running around and glimpses from a distance. I just remember being SO sad when Fred died in the book, but it was sort of "meh" in the movie; like we knew people had to die, here they are...moving on now. It just didn't pack the emotional punch it should have.

I think Tom Felton did an amazing job in this movie. I loved watching the kids growing up through the movies, and they've all matured so much. And I think Carter did an amazing job as well, you forget you're not watching Emma.

I don't mind that they didn't show much of the battle, since you don't see much of the battle in the book either.

Here's a part that puzzled me that I'm hoping someone can explain - in the forrest after Harry has "died" Narissa goes over to Harry to see if he is dead. She whispers something like "Draco is he dead?" yet Draco was not there. Harry moves a bit (and she sees this) then tells Voldermont and crowd that Harry is dead. I don't remember this from the book. Besides not showing some of the deaths (Lumpkin, Tonks, Fred) this was one of the only thing that bothered me in the movie.

Definatly in the book. I think it's the Malfoy's redeeming moment.

We just saw the movie in 2D. We saw it in this morning and it was about 1/2 full. I only saw teens and older people. Do kids read these books anymore?

I didn't notice any kids at the theater either, and I think that's good. I don't think it's really a children's movie, and that it has the PG-13 rating for a reason. There's nothing really bad in it, but there are definatly some dark moments, and there were times I was cringing, and I even knew what to expect. I think some kids could handle it, a friend was asking if I thought her kids would be okay seeing it, and I answered, her mature 12 year old would probably be fine, but her easily upset 9 year old would be better off waiting to see it.

We saw the movie today & felt it was hands down the best of the series. Of course nothing could compare to the books, but I don't think there's much I'd even pick at in this movie.

Something occurred to me watching the epilogue. I'm actually disappointed in Jo Rowling not picking up something & putting a big red bow on it for me. We should have seen Dudley Dursley at the station, putting his son or daughter on the Hogwart's express. It would have honored Dudley's change of heart, possibly thrilled Petunia & definitely would have driven Vernon stark raving.

I wonder if she ever contemplated it. Of course it would have been confusing for movie-only fans as I don't think Snape's memories were enough for most to realize the sulking little girl was Petunia.

I would've loved to know what happened to the Dursleys after the series ended. There's a lot of characters I wonder what happened to. I really hope once Pottermore starts I find out more. I love Harry Potter Wiki for info like that, but there's a lot of random characters, with "fate unknown" statuses.

 

[disneylovin24]

Finally went to see it tonight!

Overall, I thought it was an EXCELLENT movie. Probably either my favorite or second favorite of the 8 (I really loved Chamber of Secrets).


Though, a few things did irk me because they changed them from the book. I didn't like how at the end Harry never explains to Voldemort why he is not the master of the Elder wand. I also wish we got to learn in the movie that Harry's cloak is apart of the Deathly Hallows and that he mentioned them at the end of the movie like he did at the end of the book. I felt like at the end of the movie he kinda treated them like they did not matter. I also wish they showed more of Snape's flashbacks. Also missed the scene at the end where Teddy is snogging Victorie. I actually liked the changes they made to the battle scenes (very surprised that I liked them!). I LOVED LOVED LOVED how Harry called Voldy Tom before they jumped, probably my favorite scene in the whole movie. Also upset that they didn't mention how Adrianna died. I went to see it with someone who never read the books and she actually asked at the end,what did happen to Dumbledore's family.

I really did love it overall though. All of the things I listed above were just tiny little things that i can live without! I love how they had Voldy getting weaker as the movie went on. I could really hear his voice going and he looked HORRIBLE in the last scene (he looked like he put on some weight too!).

 

[ilovemk76]

I attend Harry Potter week at my theatre where they showed 2 movies Monday - Thursday. It was a great experience.

anyways, about the elder wand. I don't believe that anyone would be able to simply take it and weild it - Voldermort learned this against Harry as the wand must be won to be effective. Since the wand belongs to Harry and if Harry does not use it (ie., in the crypt) then it can never be won from him so the wand is in essence, ineffective. but i can see why he broke it in the movie.

Not true. Harry disarmed Draco with Draco's Ollivander's wand and he then became the owner of the Elder wand. If anybody ever disarmed Harry of his "working" wand they would become the owner of the Elder wand. Plus a wand can pick a wizard, so it is possible that the Elder wand could pick another wizard in the future.

 

[czycropper]

Oops I forgot that Teddy was much older....I really need to re-read the book! I haven't read it since it came out since my DD13 keeps it in her room.

I can't wait to see it again tomorrow in IMAX-3D!

 

[disneylovin24]

Not true. Harry disarmed Draco with Draco's Ollivander's wand and he then became the owner of the Elder wand. If anybody ever disarmed Harry of his "working" wand they would become the owner of the Elder wand. Plus a wand can pick a wizard, so it is possible that the Elder wand could pick another wizard in the future.

This is interesting. I think the Elder Wand is different though because it was made by death so it probably does not contain a hair like other wands and I don't think it gets to choose it's wizard. I think death made it so the current owner has to be disarmed for the wand to have a new owner. And yeah, it goes that if anyone disarms Harry they would become the master of the wand even if he is not using the wand. I feel like it should have been mentioned in the book that if Harry dies a natural death while still being the master of the wand the wand loses it's power.

Something I don't get though is if the wand is so powerful how was it able to just be snapped in half like Harry did to it? I would think it wouldn't be able to be broken.

Oh well, I don't want to try to look to much into the movie (even though I just did).

 

[JenM]

I hate that scene on two levels:
1. When she says, "Not my daughter", it really undermines her sons. Of course, the precident has been set: Ginny has many times stood out as the favorite child. Bellatrix has been running around trying to kill the Weasley boys left and right, and that's just part of the overall fight -- but she jumps in when it's Ginny who's threatened? If Molly'd said, "Not another of my children", I'd have felt differently.
2. There's never a reason for vulgar language. It serves no purpose. She can be just as angry and can kill Bellatrix just as well without the bad language.

Everyone cheered at that one at my show. Me too.

(and for the record, I saw Aliens in the theater when I was 12, and remember the cheers when Sigourney Weaver shouted a similar line)

She never "undermines her sons." She said "not my daughter" because Bellatrix had just specifically shot a curse at her daughter. If it had been one of her boys, she would have said "not my son".

There's nothing in the books or the movies that indicates that Ginny is the favorite. And certainly not because of that line. It was a reaction to what happened in that moment. I don't believe for a second she wouldn't have jumped up and defended any of her children any less than the other.

In fact, in the book, as she's fighting Bellatrix (who tossed out a snide remark about Fred's death), she shouts at her "You will never touch our children again!"

Mrs. Weasley had had enough. Of all of it. She'd lost one of her boys, another had been maimed by a werewolf and there wasn't a thing she could have done to stop any of it. When Bellatrix went after another one of her children, she did what she had to, language and all. And good for her.

 

[JenM]

The scene of Narcissa asking the "dead" Harry if Draco lives is one of my favorite bits of the book, and I'm glad it was left in. Once again, Voldy is foiled by love (and is oblivious to it).

Oh, my gosh, by the end of the movie, is there a more pathetic, wretched creature than poor Lucius Malfoy!? That final bit of Mumsy and Draco walking purposefully off to the horizon while Lucius straggles behind, a broken shell of his former self, was just perfect. Oh, how the mighty have fallen... (Totally love Jason Isaacs, BTW.)

Another favorite bit I was so happy made it in: "Here Lies Dobby, a Free Elf."

My biggest biggest BIGGEST gripe - no death for Pettigrew!! When he didn't die at the proper time in Part 1, I thought, OK, they're giving him a better demise in Part 2 - but I don't think we ever even saw him, did we? To me, this was a major omission. I hope we get an explanation for this eventually.

Loved Neville, Snape, and McGonagall, and I really hope that somewhere there's an outtake of Maggie Smith intoning: "Treguna... Mekoides... Trecorum Satis Dee!" then bursting into song while everyone else cracks up.

I've heard (I'm not sure how true this is) that the way Pettigrew kills himself was a little too much under the PG-13 rating, so they had to scrap it. I'm guessing he had a different death scene that was cut, or we just assume Voldemort killed him after the trio escaped Malfoy Manor.

I loved that scene with the Malfoys bolting from Hogwarts as well. They are good lesson in being careful what you wish for.

 

[golfgal]

Was Dudley the one who was supposed to come into magic very late in life? I heard about that for a while, and then JKR said she changed her mind.



I thought the movie was brilliant - Exceeds Expectations! I can't wait to see it again. I was really looking forward to Hermione-as-Bellatrix, and I thought it was really well done. My biggest gripe is that Harry doesn't repair his phoenix wand. I thought the 19 years later scene was cute, although all they did was give Hermione and Ginny mom hair. I was in tears pretty much the entire time from when Snape dies to the end. Snape's death and memories were also favorite scenes.

That was Mirope Gaunt from the 6th book.

 

[golfgal]

I've heard (I'm not sure how true this is) that the way Pettigrew kills himself was a little too much under the PG-13 rating, so they had to scrap it. I'm guessing he had a different death scene that was cut, or we just assume Voldemort killed him after the trio escaped Malfoy Manor.

I loved that scene with the Malfoys bolting from Hogwarts as well. They are good lesson in being careful what you wish for.

I must have imagined this but I thought that this scene WAS in the movie (part 1). I have to go check my DVD. I thought that he was at the base of the stairs in the dungeon at Malfoy Manor and they show the silver hand going to his throat