SPOILERS welcome!! Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows movie - Part 2

[gometros]

I saw it in 2D because I just can't handle 3D - I get wicked headaches from long 3D movies. After reading some reviews of the 3D version, I don't really feel like I missed much at all.

It's funny you say that. I went into the movie with the beginnings of a migraine and didn't have anything on me. We saw it in IMAX 3D and I was so into the movie, I didn't notice the migraine until it was over.

Astoria was Draco's wife, not one of his kids. And the actress who played her is actually Tom Felton's girlfriend in real life.

He's in the movie, very quickly (like, blink-and-you'll-miss-him quickly), in one of the shots where you see the courtyard on fire, he's the one leading a group of students on brooms heading into the battle.

I missed it too, I read about it later. That's pretty cool that they brought him back, though.

Thanks for that correction. I do remember reading something that the director/producers asked Tom to convince his girlfriend to play that role.

 

[Belle Ella]

Sorry if I missed this earlier - what is AVPM/AVPS?

A Very Potter Musical and A Very Potter Sequel.

 

[PoohJen]

OMG - am I too late to this party???

Saw Pt 2 over the weekend - all I could think of was "wow". Actually felt bad that I missed the midnite show Thurs - what great energy there must have been in the theaters! (we never miss a premiere, but this year my kids were away at Scout camp!!!).

Highlights:

- They did Snape's Story justice. That was my main pre-movie concern. Excellent.
- They got everyone in (e.g. - Hagrid in the final scenes, without bothering to explain why he was there). Threw alot onto the screen as a nod to the readers.
- King's Cross was really well done.

Okay, there were TONS of highlights, I'll keep the above list short.

Brief comments:
- SO GLAD they put Molly's Scene in, but when you read the books, didn't you think the whole battle in the Great Hall and the walk to the Forbidden Forrest was just so visual, so written for a movie? If the film had followed that a little more closely for the battle scenes, I think the impact would've been even greater. Molly's scene is a good example of that.

- The Ron/Hermione kiss was a bit forced; like the book version better ("is now really the time?!!).

- I really think this was the best of the movies, as far as capturing the book. Well done!

 

[Deb in IA]

ITA! It just seemed to be such a SAD life!! I mean at first you think he's just mean and evil and then you find out he's heroric and sad. Very heartwrenching. To love someone from childhood and NEVER have that love returned--just very sad. And again, Alan Rickman was just so fantastic at that role for 8 movies!

We've always thought that Snape was probably the most interesting and tragic charactes in the entire story. Alan Rickman is a fantastic actor, and he really did the role justice. Can you believe they initially wanted the guy who is on "Lie to Me" (his name escapes me now), but he was tied up the the remake of "Planet of the Apes"?

Actually they say "you have your mother's eyes" not "green eyes" so I that kind of gets away from the color for me. It could be the shape of the eyes, the eyelashes, etc. I like to think it just refers to the amount of love. She had enough love for him to give her life for him, and he had enough love to give his life for his friends. And they could see the love in thier eyes.

When Snape says that to Harry just before he dies, I thought that was much more tender than Snape ever was to Harry in the book. He only says "Look . . . at . . . me" in the book, and you never really get the the feeling that he ever liked Harry - but his love for Lily was unquestionable.

I also loved Draco's parents dragging him over when Voldemort called people to step forward, then him sheepishly shuffling over. Tom Felton also really did an excellent job in this series.

THAT was the exact moment the twit-head girls sitting next to me decided to break out in a case of the giggles, and TOTALLY ruined it for me. I couldn't hear a word they were saying!!

But Daniel Radcliff has blue eyes all through the movies--how hard is it to put in green contacts

They tried that, originally. The contacts hurt his eyes, so they stopped using them.

They tried to give Emma Watson big prosthetic teeth too, but it messed up her enunciation, so they dropped that as well.

We have been watching movies 1-7.1 and are really seeing how fantastic Alan Rickman's portrayal of Snape has been. At no time can you say "but that doesn't match with what he did in the end". You can see in his facial expressions that there was always something in his thoughts not matching with his actions. He is truly a brilliant actor.

I've heard that after Alan Rickman was cast, JK Rowling told him some points about Snape in private. I think that was brillant, and it must have helped him understand Snape's true feelings and motivations. He is a great actor, of course, too.

not clear on that but then it would have to be explained why Snape, who was supposedly in his thirties or early forties (the Harry Potter wiki says Snape dies at age 38), was played by an actor in his sixties. Maybe he looked older because of his tortured mind. As far as the aging makeup, I think they didn't want the actors to be unrecognizeable under obvious tons of makeup. Eh, I'll accept it. Ron looked awful though.

True, but Rickman looks about 20 years younger, doesn't he, especially with that black wig?

Sorry if I missed this earlier - what is AVPM/AVPS?


Also, after Harry, Ron, and Hermione get out of Gringott's and just before they change their clothes, what does Hermione squirt in everyone's hands?

It looks like hand sanitizer?

A Very Potter Musical and A Very Potter Sequel.

I'm answering my own question!

I looked it up. It was Essence of Dittany, to heal the burns on their hands.

Now, that was hardly a mention in the book, but they thought it was important enough to put it in?? But they couldn't take a few seconds to have Harry repair his wand with the Elder Wand???? I don't get it.

I'd LOVE to have a little conversation with Steve Kloves someday . . .

 

[lovesmurfs]

We've always thought that Snape was probably the most interesting and tragic charactes in the entire story. Alan Rickman is a fantastic actor, and he really did the role justice. Can you believe they initially wanted the guy who is on "Lie to Me" (his name escapes me now), but he was tied up the the remake of "Planet of the Apes"?



When Snape says that to Harry just before he dies, I thought that was much more tender than Snape ever was to Harry in the book. He only says "Look . . . at . . . me" in the book, and you never really get the the feeling that he ever liked Harry - but his love for Lily was unquestionable.



THAT was the exact moment the twit-head girls sitting next to me decided to break out in a case of the giggles, and TOTALLY ruined it for me. I couldn't hear a word they were saying!!





They tried to give Emma Watson big prosthetic teeth too, but it messed up her enunciation, so they dropped that as well.



I've heard that after Alan Rickman was cast, JK Rowling told him some points about Snape in private. I think that was brillant, and it must have helped him understand Snape's true feelings and motivations. He is a great actor, of course, too.



True, but Rickman looks about 20 years younger, doesn't he, especially with that black wig?





I'm answering my own question!

I looked it up. It was Essence of Dittany, to heal the burns on their hands.

Now, that was hardly a mention in the book, but they thought it was important enough to put it in?? But they couldn't take a few seconds to have Harry repair his wand with the Elder Wand???? I don't get it.

I'd LOVE to have a little conversation with Steve Kloves someday . . .

I noticed the Dittany, too. Too bad that Griphook's line in the movie only said that it was geminio charms in the LaStrange vault -- didn't say anything about the flagrante (which was the burning).

Regarding the eyes, I believe they had tried to have Radcliffe wear green contacts, but he experienced a bad reaction to them.

 

[TDC Nala]

I don't think Rickman looks 20 years younger than his actual age (he is currently 65, he would have been around 55 at the start of filming). He looks younger as Snape but not that much younger. But he's so perfect for the part that his age difference from the character is forgiven.

 

[HeWhoMustNotBeNamed]

I noticed the Dittany, too. Too bad that Griphook's line in the movie only said that it was geminio charms in the LaStrange vault -- didn't say anything about the flagrante (which was the burning).

Regarding the eyes, I believe they had tried to have Radcliffe wear green contacts, but he experienced a bad reaction to them.

Was also surprised to not have the burning depicted in vault ...

Yes, he had a very bad reaction to the contacts so they gave up (CC) in first film.

 

[PrincessTiffany]

Sorry if I missed this earlier - what is AVPM/AVPS?


Also, after Harry, Ron, and Hermione get out of Gringott's and just before they change their clothes, what does Hermione squirt in everyone's hands?

It looks like hand sanitizer?

That was Essence of Dittany. The thing I can't understand is why they would even show her putting it on their hands. I mean there is never any mention that they were being burned in the vault of Gringotts. If you didn't read the book you would have no idea that they were almost burned to death and were in a great amount of pain. They didn't even look like they were in pain when she handed out the Essence of Dittany. Just didn't make sense.

 

[Belle Ella]

I figured it was so they didn't freeze from the water, not anything to do with burns they got in the vault and that they just left that part out.

 

[beatlesblonde]

I don't think Rickman looks 20 years younger than his actual age (he is currently 65, he would have been around 55 at the start of filming). He looks younger as Snape but not that much younger. But he's so perfect for the part that his age difference from the character is forgiven.

I totally agree although I have to say after re-watching the first movie he does look considerably younger at least in the Sorcerers Stone (I think they played with his black wig too for the other movies cause it looks like it was always getting in his face). Either way he is an amazing actor and not sore on the eyes either. No offense to Emma, Daniel or Rupert but whenever I watch the movies from now on my attention is going to be on Snape

 

[beatlesblonde]

I saw it again yesterday, this time in 3D. I have to say while there were a few shots that looked amazing the rest of the movie didn't change for me with the 3D (but that's more due to the way they did the 3D but I won't bore anyone with technical talk) but it was still fun to watch it again. I did catch a few things that I missed the first time since I was able to pay more attention instead of trying to take it ALL in at once.

-A few commented on how Neville knew to kill Nagini, after Harry reveals himself to be alive everyone rushes back into the castle. If you watch Harry, Ron, Hermoine and Neville are in a group scrambling for the door when Harry yells "We have to kill the snake" and then Neville is hit by a blast that sends him flying into the great hall. That's how Neville knew that Nagini needed to be killed (once he woke back up, man Neville is like a finely made watch, takes a licking and keeps on ticking).

-When Ron and Hermoine appear in the Room of Requirement and Ron goes chasing after Malfoy and his goonies I hadn't noticed that as Ron as screaming he yells "That's my girlfriend!"

-I also tried to watch more of the rest of the cast instead of whomever was talking at the time. It's interesting to see how they act as their character like Bellatrix with her head to one side looking like she's a few fries short of a happy meal, or Hermoine wringing her hands when Harry is talking to Griphook at Shell Cottage, or Snape's face as Voldemort is talking to him in the boathouse and Snape realizes he's not going to be leaving there alive. The entire cast is amazing, I can't wait to see what they do in the future.

 

[3smithboys]

I saw it again yesterday, this time in 3D. I have to say while there were a few shots that looked amazing the rest of the movie didn't change for me with the 3D (but that's more due to the way they did the 3D but I won't bore anyone with technical talk) but it was still fun to watch it again. I did catch a few things that I missed the first time since I was able to pay more attention instead of trying to take it ALL in at once.

-A few commented on how Neville knew to kill Nagini, after Harry reveals himself to be alive everyone rushes back into the castle. If you watch Harry, Ron, Hermoine and Neville are in a group scrambling for the door when Harry yells "We have to kill the snake" and then Neville is hit by a blast that sends him flying into the great hall. That's how Neville knew that Nagini needed to be killed (once he woke back up, man Neville is like a finely made watch, takes a licking and keeps on ticking).

-When Ron and Hermoine appear in the Room of Requirement and Ron goes chasing after Malfoy and his goonies I hadn't noticed that as Ron as screaming he yells "That's my girlfriend!"

-I also tried to watch more of the rest of the cast instead of whomever was talking at the time. It's interesting to see how they act as their character like Bellatrix with her head to one side looking like she's a few fries short of a happy meal, or Hermoine wringing her hands when Harry is talking to Griphook at Shell Cottage, or Snape's face as Voldemort is talking to him in the boathouse and Snape realizes he's not going to be leaving there alive. The entire cast is amazing, I can't wait to see what they do in the future.

I also went back to see it again with my family yesterday. I loved being able to really concentrate on all of the things that you were talking about as well. It went by so fast!!!

 

[elgerber]

I also tried to watch more of the rest of the cast instead of whomever was talking at the time. It's interesting to see how they act as their character like Bellatrix with her head to one side looking like she's a few fries short of a happy meal,

I love watching her, she always look like shes about to either tip over or jump out of her skin at the drop of a pin! She's hilarious! Gotta love to hate her.

 

[SueM in MN]

Not that we need to cover up anything in this thread, but if you ever need to hide a spoiler on this board, all you have to do is highlight what you typed, and turn the color to white. (There should be an "A" with a bar under it at the top of your reply box. Click on the little triangle to see the color choices.) Then people can't see it unless they highlight the "blank" area themselves.



I actually wished they'd made them look just a little bit older! But, really, I was just glad they put that seen in at all, as ending after the battle was more dramatic, and sometimes movie-makers do go for "closing shot" over "closure".

In general, though, I loved the movie!


P.S. - Nobody in our theatre stayed after credits. Did we miss anything?

I stayed to the very end of the credits and there was nothing, so all you missed was the credits.

It's in the book, Narcissa is sent over to Harry's body by Voldemort to check and see if Harry is truly dead. Narcissa realizes he isn't but knows that the only way she'll she Draco again is if she lies and says he is dead.

yes.
I thought that was a very important part in the book because it showed her love for Draco and that even though she was still 'with' Voldemort, he was not where her loyalties were.
It was kind of a continuation of her meeting with Snape at the beginning of book 6 where she tried to enlist Snape's help with Draco having been told to kill Dumbledore.

Sorry if I missed this earlier - what is AVPM/AVPS?


Also, after Harry, Ron, and Hermione get out of Gringott's and just before they change their clothes, what does Hermione squirt in everyone's hands?

It looks like hand sanitizer?

I like that - I am an Infection Control Nurse. What better after being in a dirty bank vault and riding on a dirty dragon!

That was Essence of Dittany. The thing I can't understand is why they would even show her putting it on their hands. I mean there is never any mention that they were being burned in the vault of Gringotts. If you didn't read the book you would have no idea that they were almost burned to death and were in a great amount of pain. They didn't even look like they were in pain when she handed out the Essence of Dittany. Just didn't make sense.

They did include them having been told about the 'possibly fatal' liquid ( can't remember what is was called) that fell on them when the anti-theft devices in Gringot's vault were activated.

It's possible they cut an explanation about the Essance of Dittany, but left the scene showing her giving it to them, thinking people would think it was an antidote to the liquid.

I saw it again yesterday, this time in 3D. I have to say while there were a few shots that looked amazing the rest of the movie didn't change for me with the 3D (but that's more due to the way they did the 3D but I won't bore anyone with technical talk) but it was still fun to watch it again. I did catch a few things that I missed the first time since I was able to pay more attention instead of trying to take it ALL in at once.

-A few commented on how Neville knew to kill Nagini, after Harry reveals himself to be alive everyone rushes back into the castle. If you watch Harry, Ron, Hermoine and Neville are in a group scrambling for the door when Harry yells "We have to kill the snake" and then Neville is hit by a blast that sends him flying into the great hall. That's how Neville knew that Nagini needed to be killed (once he woke back up, man Neville is like a finely made watch, takes a licking and keeps on ticking).

-When Ron and Hermoine appear in the Room of Requirement and Ron goes chasing after Malfoy and his goonies I hadn't noticed that as Ron as screaming he yells "That's my girlfriend!"

-I also tried to watch more of the rest of the cast instead of whomever was talking at the time. It's interesting to see how they act as their character like Bellatrix with her head to one side looking like she's a few fries short of a happy meal, or Hermoine wringing her hands when Harry is talking to Griphook at Shell Cottage, or Snape's face as Voldemort is talking to him in the boathouse and Snape realizes he's not going to be leaving there alive. The entire cast is amazing, I can't wait to see what they do in the future.

The bolded part

 

[JenM]

Saw it again tonight (even better the second time) and I noticed that during the scene with Ollivander, when he was examining the wands, he explained that Draco's wand had "changed allegiances" since Harry had won it from Draco. I'm guessing that meant the wand belonged to Harry, which is why we didn't see him use the Elder Wand to fix his old wand before he snapped it in half.

Still wish Harry could have fixed his own wand, but I guess there was an explanation in there somewhere.

This movie is amazing, though. What a way to end the series.

 

[lovesmurfs]

Saw it again tonight (even better the second time) and I noticed that during the scene with Ollivander, when he was examining the wands, he explained that Draco's wand had "changed allegiances" since Harry had won it from Draco. I'm guessing that meant the wand belonged to Harry, which is why we didn't see him use the Elder Wand to fix his old wand before he snapped it in half.

Still wish Harry could have fixed his own wand, but I guess there was an explanation in there somewhere.

This movie is amazing, though. What a way to end the series.

In the book, Harry is master of both Draco's wand AND the Elder Wand (as well as his old Holly & Phoenix Feather). One of the last scenes in the book, he takes his old wand out of the mokeskin pouch Hagrid gave him for his 17th birthday and uses the Elder Wand to fix it. Then, he plans to put the Elder Wand back in Dumbledore's tomb. If Harry dies a quiet death, the power of the Elder Wand would die, too.

I didn't mind him snapping the wand in the movie, but in the book, he was so attached to his wand (there are a lot of thought passages about how he felt about the wand getting broken) that I'm sorry they missed this in the movie.

 

[3smithboys]

In the book, Harry is master of both Draco's wand AND the Elder Wand (as well as his old Holly & Phoenix Feather). One of the last scenes in the book, he takes his old wand out of the mokeskin pouch Hagrid gave him for his 17th birthday and uses the Elder Wand to fix it. Then, he plans to put the Elder Wand back in Dumbledore's tomb. If Harry dies a quiet death, the power of the Elder Wand would die, too.

I didn't mind him snapping the wand in the movie, but in the book, he was so attached to his wand (there are a lot of thought passages about how he felt about the wand getting broken) that I'm sorry they missed this in the movie.

This! You hit the nail on the head with this...I really loved the movie, but thought they missed something really important here, and it would have been so easy to put in!

 

[JenM]

In the book, Harry is master of both Draco's wand AND the Elder Wand (as well as his old Holly & Phoenix Feather). One of the last scenes in the book, he takes his old wand out of the mokeskin pouch Hagrid gave him for his 17th birthday and uses the Elder Wand to fix it. Then, he plans to put the Elder Wand back in Dumbledore's tomb. If Harry dies a quiet death, the power of the Elder Wand would die, too.

I didn't mind him snapping the wand in the movie, but in the book, he was so attached to his wand (there are a lot of thought passages about how he felt about the wand getting broken) that I'm sorry they missed this in the movie.

I knew about the wands (I've read the book twice), I just thought the movie had left that part unexplained the first time I saw it. This time I caught the exchange between between Ollivander and Harry that somewhat explained the wand situation.

I liked Harry using the Elder Wand to repair his own wand better as well, but I didn't mind him snapping the wand in half, since it always left open the possiblity that someone could still overtake him and claim the wand.

 

[SueM in MN]

I knew about the wands (I've read the book twice), I just thought the movie had left that part unexplained the first time I saw it. This time I caught the exchange between between Ollivander and Harry that somewhat explained the wand situation.

I liked Harry using the Elder Wand to repair his own wand better as well, but I didn't mind him snapping the wand in half, since it always left open the possiblity that someone could still overtake him and claim the wand.

Agree.
His own wand was really important to him. My guess is that they left out him repairing his wand because people who had not read the books would not know about his wand being broken and why he would want to fix it.

I also didn't mind him breaking the Elder Wand. I guess, symbolically, it showed that he could have gone on to become the most powerful wizard in the world, but made the choice that he would not use the wand that way. And, by breaking it, he ensured that no one else in the future could use it that way either.

 

[jenny105]

Saw the movie on Wednesday, absolutely loved it. I cried when Fred died, cheered when Neville killed the snake, and cringed when Nagini attacked Snape. The only part I wish they would've left in was Ron punching Malfoy.