Special Occasion: Napa Rose or S55?

It definitely depends on your palette. I looked at the Napa Rose menu and the only things on there that I would consider eating are the kid meals. Everything else either sounds strange to me or is something I have never heard of. I much prefer Ralph Brennan's. I do hope you enjoy your meal, whatever you choose.
 
Another vote for Napa Rose.

And if not the Chef Counter...I recommend a three step approach if you are looking for a nice night out for a special occasion and not looking to just get in and out as fast as you can:

1) Arrive early and have a pre dinner wine/drink at the bar
2) Enjoy your meal but then skip dessert
3) Close out dinner check and retire to the front lounge for dessert and coffee/wine/adult beverage of choice (the Moscato dessert wine is amazing)

Thanks for the tips :)
 
If you're going to do three courses at Napa Rose, you're not too far off from the cost of the Chef's Counter and its five-courses anyway.

Love the Chef's Counter at Napa Rose. It's a must-do for my trips.

What's the price for chef's counter, if I remember $150?
 
First, I want to say I did enjoy my visits to Napa Rose. Chef's Counter is a lot of fun.

That said, look at the menus online.Think about what you like to eat. My family has a somewhat simple palette. I don't care for game meat, rabbit, octopus, what we call "weird stuff". Because of this, I am usually somewhat limited by the menu. When doing the chef's counter, I usually get given steak simply because of my dislikes. For me, for a special event, I would prefer Steakhouse 55. I love the ambiance there, I enjoy the food, and the sour dough bread is so awesome.

I love both, that's the problem..Love upscale, but I also love steak. I would love to do both in the years I go, my first trip is tentatively planned for Middle May to celebrate my college graduation! I definitely plan on returning (I think ill like it! :))
 

Generally, I know the chefs work hard to make something you will enjoy, even with food issues. At the same time, desserts tend to be an issue with diabetics generally getting offered fresh fruits.

I know Chef Sutton was great with my DIL when she had to go gluten free/dairy free while at an event he was chef for. He walked her thru the buffet and showed her what she could and couldn't eat. (I didn't expect her to be catered to with the size of the event.)

The following night, we were at Steakhouse, and chef made her dinner "the best meal ever, not just gluten/dairy free!" I did have problems at Carthay asking for allergies and was basically told "This area of the menu is safe."

We plan on going to Carthay too, good to know! Great to hear about Chef Sutton. We don't have food allergies, but it's nice to hear that these chefs are accomodating!
 
It definitely depends on your palette. I looked at the Napa Rose menu and the only things on there that I would consider eating are the kid meals. Everything else either sounds strange to me or is something I have never heard of. I much prefer Ralph Brennan's. I do hope you enjoy your meal, whatever you choose.

Thank you so much! We're actually considering a meal to Ralph Breenan's possibly!
 
Hey, Brianna, we're from the greater Seattle area too, and I was also comparing it to some of the tasting menus we've done around Seattle. I've done Napa's chef's counter 3 times now, and I have to say that while it's very good, I've had better. What tasting menu was it you went to with the Iron Chef winner? The last one we did was at Alterra on Capitol Hill, and that was hands down the most amazing meal we've ever had. Also the most expensive, though. Ouch. We've also had wonderful tasting menus at Art of the Table (Ballard) and at Mistral Kitchen (South Lake Union).

One thing I find lacking at Napa Rose, is that the menu doesn't change as much as you'd find at any other tasting menu type meal. They have stuff on the menu there still that they had there when I first went 8 years ago (I'm looking at you, pan seared scallop!)

Also when we were there last week, I was wondering just how the heck they decided what to give my husband and what to give me. While we told the chef our preferences at the start (adventuresome, bold flavors, love seafood, duck, etc... but no sweetbreads, please) ... They fed us different little plates, and I was wondering what snap decisions about our appearances they made, that made them give me the blander, less adventuresome things. We had the wine pairings, and I had the same experience last year when I did it solo, and this year: the waiter went to pour me a Vouvray. I'm not a sommalier, but I know quite a bit about wines, and to me, unless it's a very good name, Vouvray is what you pour a suburban soccer mom who normally drinks Mike's Hard Lemonade, likes sweet stuff, doesn't really like wine, and doesn't know better. I stopped him, asked him to let me taste it first, shuddered (yup, very sickly sweet) and told him my preferences, especially for the food that was in front of me. After that he didn't look quite so complacent in what he poured me, especially when DH and I kept tasting each others' and agreeing on which we liked better. He still poured DH a glass that was the last of the bottle, and there were granule-like dregs all over the bottom of the glass. Very unprofessional. So Napa Rose has come down a notch in my estimation.

I will say, though, that since we are gluten free, I was surprised that their dessert menu has very little on it we could have. We were seated at the dessert counter, and at one point I was chatting with the pastry chef. "What do you have on the dessert menu that is gluten free? PLEASE don't say sorbet.... that's all we've been hearing." She looked somewhat embarrassed and said, "Yeah, it's that or creme brulee... maybe some fresh berries." We were discussing the possibilities of wonderful chocolate things like mousse, flourless chocolate cake, gluten free flours that permit some great carrot and pumpkin confections... Later, unasked, she slid a plate across to me that said "Happy Birthday" in chocolate lettering... with two small triangles of a dense, almost fudge like chocolate ganache, decorated with little meringue buttons, cream and berry coulis garnish... she'd made it especially for me. That was pretty dang awesome of her! :)

Very interesting..thanks for the recon. BTW, if you're ever in Philadelphia, go to Vetri...incredible tasting menu
 
Last night we were at Cafe Juanita, which is actually on the eastside rather than Seattle proper. The chef, Holly Smith, personally came to our table to deliver several of the menu items, so that was pretty cool to meet an actual Iron Chef winner. Didn't get that at NR. We've did the tasting menu at Rover's a couple times before it went out of business. Have also done Canlis and a couple in Vegas, and we've done one of the Gordon Ramsey restaurants in London. The Vegas ones were beyond awesome (and better than NR) -- the Gordon Ramsey restaurant in London had incredible food but the service was horrendously slow. We were literally there over 4 hours and I was so tired I nearly went to sleep sitting up. Will definitely try Alterra -- thanks for the tip! Our daughter goes to high school in Capitol Hill although we're on the eastside, so that will be good to try sometime.

August was our first time at Napa Rose, so I wouldn't know about the menu changing. I'm not a Vouvray fan, either, so I feel your pain! Last night at Cafe Juanita we were served dessert wine with a couple of our dishes (that were not dessert), so maybe they just thought a sweet wine was best with whatever you were served? Although that could be done with something a little nicer than your garden variety Vouvray. But dregs -- seriously? Luckily we didn't have those issues; our wines were quite nice.

The one thing I didn't like at NR was our server. He was one of their sommeliers -- we weren't served by the chef on duty like I've heard some others have been. He was very knowledgeable and always prompt, but extremely kiss-***. Seriously, if I heard him say one more time what an honor it was to serve us and how rewarding it was to have someone as knowledgeable as XYZ as we were, I would have lost my dinner. This all started when I asked him if one of the dishes had truffle oil in it, which it did -- but truffle is a pretty unique flavor so it's not like I had picked up on something subtle. It just came across as really fake in a lame attempt to get a higher tip. :)

In spite of all that, though, our meal really was outstanding.

The truffle oil part made me LOL.
 
I was just trying to make the same decision... between SS55 and NR... gave my mom the menus to peruse. She chose Storytellers buffet dinner. :/
 
Last night we were at Cafe Juanita, which is actually on the eastside rather than Seattle proper.

Yes Café Juanita is excellent. I really miss Rovers. Their tasting menu was the best. At least Thierry is still around at Loulay.

Why no love for Vouvray??? I love Chenin Blanc. Those Domaine Huet Vouvray wines are some of the best in the world. Yes there is sweet garbage out there but once you try the Huet wines you will never rip Vouvray again.
 
Yes Café Juanita is excellent. I really miss Rovers. Their tasting menu was the best. At least Thierry is still around at Loulay.

Why no love for Vouvray??? I love Chenin Blanc. Those Domaine Huet Vouvray wines are some of the best in the world. Yes there is sweet garbage out there but once you try the Huet wines you will never rip Vouvray again.

Will have to look at your recommendation for Domaine Huet -- never tried it. Thanks!
 
Napa Rose. Even a standard table is amazing. I have never done the famed Chefs Counter but NR is our "go to" for special occasion dining. It is fantastic.

S55 is alright. I prefer Ruth's Chris or Morton's Steakhouse to S55.

Funny, we preferred S55 over Ruth's Chris. We thought we had a way better steak at S55. I felt like we threw our money away at Ruth's Chris. To each their own, I guess.
 
Yes Café Juanita is excellent. I really miss Rovers. Their tasting menu was the best. At least Thierry is still around at Loulay.

Why no love for Vouvray??? I love Chenin Blanc. Those Domaine Huet Vouvray wines are some of the best in the world. Yes there is sweet garbage out there but once you try the Huet wines you will never rip Vouvray again.

We really enjoyed Rovers when we were there a few years ago, before it closed.

I've had decent Vouvray, and Domaine Huet would qualify as a high quality. I'm sure it's very good. It's just that most of what is commonly called Vouvray is not the good quality stuff. It's quite sweet, almost a dessert wine. Chenin Blanc is okay, but again, too sweet for me unless it is very well matched to the food.

When we were doing the tasting menu at Alterra in Seattle, I had a conversation with the sommalier about Vouvray. He showed it to me, saw my face, and said, "Yes, I know. I'm normally not a fan of Vouvray, either. But let me explain. This one is amazing, it's not horribly sweet, and it goes perfectly with this course." Wish I could remember which it was, I should have been writing them down. The wine pairings were excellent.
 
Yes it is hard to pair sweeter wines with most food. I usually get the sweeter wines with spicy food like Thai.

How was Altura. Was it worth the cash?

Which servers do you all like at Napa Rose? We usually ask for Rodney as he is excellent. He always makes us feel like family. Also many of the assistant servers always remember us and greet us by name. Last time we were there Rodney was on vacation and we had Wendy. She was great too.
 




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