We called El Tovar and reserved the first seating for dinner, which I think was 5pm, then get there early to get in line for a window seat, that is what we did and then after dinner we sat outside on the front porch in the rocking chairs until 730 which was our meeting time at the flag pole right next to the porch. What we did before was to walk down about an hour into the canyon at the bright angel trail, then came back up, takes about double the time to get back up. Our kids loved it. Lunch on this day was at the snack shop by the canyon, just ate light after a hardy breakfast at the hotel. Any other questions?