Southwest Early Bird Checkin

Yes I think that flights from MCO will likely have some of the highest subscription rates to EB, I just wonder how people will feel when they get a B postition after paying.

bookwormde
Reasonably, they should feel they got exactly the service for which they paid - the convenience of not needing to be tied to a computer exactly 24 hours prior to flight departure.

At least THIS thread (accurately) calls it Early Bird Check In; the other thread calls it Early Boarding, which is NOT what the option means.
 
Can someone indulge me so I don't have to skim through 32 pages to get the answer to my questions about this?

My 5 year old has a severe, life threatening food allergy. I do not think that the remote possibility of her sitting with a couple of strangers is appropriate. I'm sure that our allergist and pediatrician would agree. Would something like this qualify for "disability" boarding? 5!

About extremes and compromises:
1. Read all 32 pages.
2. Post a reply containing your comments and questions here after reading just page 1, page 2, and page 32.
3. Start a new thread.

I strongly say it is kosher to not accomplish #1. I suggest #2.

I read somewhere that the persons in charge of the facility are not permitted to ask for proof of disability that would stand up in a court of law. So you can try for the "disabled" boarding, just the "disabled" person (the 5yo) and if necessary, someone to accompany the "disabled" person (you), and also any kidnappable (age-wise) child without another adult to accompany him in his normal spot in line. Showing the epi-pen and/or a multi-day theme park pass usable on your birthday won't hurt.

In the event the flight crew denies you early boarding perhaps because your asking voice was too soft, you would follow their boarding instructions but still wipe down the seat (leather wipes down easily compared with cloth) and wipe down the tray table if you felt that necessary. If strangers had already taken the adjacent seats, this may embarass them into moving so you can sit there.
 
About extremes and compromises:
1. Read all 32 pages.
2. Post a reply containing your comments and questions here after reading just page 1 and page 32.
3. Start a new thread.

I strongly say it is kosher to not accomplish #1. I suggest #2.

I read somewhere that the persons in charge of the facility are not permitted to ask for proof of disability that would stand up in a court of law. So you can try for the "disabled" boarding, just the "disabled" person (the 5yo) and if necessary, someone to accompany the "disabled" person (you), and also any kidnappable (age-wise) child without another adult to accompany him in his normal spot in line. Showing the epi-pen and/or a multi-day theme park pass usable on your birthday won't hurt.

Okay, so I've been working long hours recently and it is possible that my brain is broken, but under what possible scenario would a SW FA or GA care about a WDW multi-day theme park pass???

Amarberry - as others have said. Yes, you can do early boarding for your daughter (and clean her seating area). Also, you do not require any documentation (the airline cannot even ask for it). If you are flying alone with your children, your two year old would obviously also board with you. If you were flying with another adult, it would be up to the discretion of the agent. Technically, it should just be you and your five year old, but they might (and it seems often do) allow all four of you to board.
 
In the event the flight crew denies you early boarding perhaps because your asking voice was too soft, you would follow their boarding instructions but still wipe down the seat (leather wipes down easily compared with cloth) and wipe down the tray table if you felt that necessary. If strangers had already taken the adjacent seats, this may embarass them into moving so you can sit there.

Or, you could be an adult and instead of playing Seashore's passive-aggressive game, you could simply ask if someone would mind swapping with you. Why should they be embarrassed? They choose empty seats - how were they supposed to know that a child with an allergy (who needed/wanted to sit next to a parent) would board after them and at a time when there were no two together seats left? Why would amarberry try to embarrass them?

In any case, since an allergy is a legitimate need for pre-boarding, there should be no issues.
 

Reasonably, they should feel they got exactly the service for which they paid - the convenience of not needing to be tied to a computer exactly 24 hours prior to flight departure.

Yes........ but before early bird check in I always got an A BP because I was on the computer 24 hrs ahead. Now I am paying for something that might give me a B BP, and if I don't pay for it, at the 24 hr. mark I might get a C BP.
 
Yes........ but before early bird check in I always got an A BP because I was on the computer 24 hrs ahead. Now I am paying for something that might give me a B BP, and if I don't pay for it, at the 24 hr. mark I might get a C BP.


Aahhh as my Mother used to say " who ever said life is fair?" that was then this is now, SW found a way to make some money and offer a service to people who don't want to live their life around sitting at the computer waiting to strike. People want convenience and like everything convenience usually costs more. I think it shows what a smart airline SW is.

I like it. I like ala carte air fares. If I was SW I would sell as many as I could and only then board anyone who didn't pay including families.
 
I just printed my boarding pass for a flight tomorrow DEN - RDU. With EBCI my boarding pass was A20.
 
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Yes I think that flights from MCO will likely have some of the highest subscription rates to EB, I just wonder how people will feel when they get a B postition after paying.

bookwormde

This is what has me on the fence about paying for EB. We're flying in November and it's hard to tell if the word will be out en masse by then and what the subscription rates will be. I'm tempted to take a chance and not do it for any of our flights. Our outbound flight from MCO is only about 1 1/2 hours, so middle seats just aren't that big of a deal for that short of time if it comes to that.

It will be interesting to see how all this falls out. Hopefully, a preditable pattern will emerge that we can use as a guide for when to buy EB.
 
Yesterday DH just check my FIL in for his flight from ISP to WPB right at 24 hours before the flight. Got A 31 and 32.
FIL's wife said that is the same numbers DH got last time he checked them in father's day weekend.

I have two round trip flights booked on southwest and only purchased the earlybird for the return flight after our cruise.
 
Keishashadow,

I was not thinking that you were suggesting doing it just that is would take some research for someone (who I agree wanted some very bad karma) to fake it. And yes there will be some families which could have managed with a A group who will now likely use the pre-board (my family will likely be one of them) for the last flights we had gotten DS to the point where he was ok as long as we got him to the back and settled before the crush

bookwormde

gotcha:thumbsup2, i'll restate that it's highly likely that many passengers will request the early board. While is probably more geared to DISability board as to who is eligible, i do hope that SWs staff is equipped with guidelines as to determining eligibility. Many passenger's disabiities r hidden (low vision, balance issues, neuropathy, especially in the more senior among us). Im thinking (in lieu of dr's note which i think violates privacy issues anyway) bringing one's HC parking placard would be a good idea.

About extremes and compromises:
1. Read all 32 pages.
2. Post a reply containing your comments and questions here after reading just page 1, page 2, and page 32.
3. Start a new thread.

I strongly say it is kosher to not accomplish #1. I suggest #2.

I read somewhere that the persons in charge of the facility are not permitted to ask for proof of disability that would stand up in a court of law. So you can try for the "disabled" boarding, just the "disabled" person (the 5yo) and if necessary, someone to accompany the "disabled" person (you), and also any kidnappable (age-wise) child without another adult to accompany him in his normal spot in line. Showing the epi-pen and/or a multi-day theme park pass usable on your birthday won't hurt.

In the event the flight crew denies you early boarding perhaps because your asking voice was too soft, you would follow their boarding instructions but still wipe down the seat (leather wipes down easily compared with cloth) and wipe down the tray table if you felt that necessary. If strangers had already taken the adjacent seats, this may embarass them into moving so you can sit there.

to the poster w/Q re childs allergy, here's a link to SWA's Customers with Disabilities section ...gives phone # u may want to call to discuss ur child's particular issue

http://www.southwest.com/travel_center/disability.html#peanut
 
gotcha:thumbsup2, Many passenger's disabiities r hidden (low vision, balance issues, neuropathy, especially in the more senior among us). Im thinking (in lieu of dr's note which i think violates privacy issues anyway) bringing one's HC parking placard would be a good idea.
http://www.southwest.com/travel_center/disability.html#peanut

Hi
The HC parking placard is what I use at the airport. I have one of those "hidden disabilities" that you spoke of. You would realize what it was if I walked pass you and fell into your lap (or maybe not!):rotfl2:
Anyway I have never had a problem getting a blue sleeve by showing my HC placard. By the way, I always get my boarding pass from a skycap so that I don't take an A away from anyone.:scared1:
Peg
 
In response to Peg's post, above: there is NO need to show a handicap-parking placard anywhere but when parking. While it's great that an airline accepts that as 'proof' the passenger is 'entitled' to special boarding, it has absolutely no validity anywhere or any time except when parking a vehicle.
 
I paid for EBCI for my flight from IND to MCO tomorrow morning and received A18 and A19.

Just an FYI.
 
In response to Peg's post, above: there is NO need to show a handicap-parking placard anywhere but when parking. While it's great that an airline accepts that as 'proof' the passenger is 'entitled' to special boarding, it has absolutely no validity anywhere or any time except when parking a vehicle.

I know that it is obvious (or should be) given the context, but just to add that what you say is true in the US, but not always in other countries. Many other countries do require proof of disability for things that the US does not (for example, they cannot ask for proof if you get a GAC at WDW/DL, but will ask for proof for the "equivalent" at DLP.
 
I just sent an e-mail off to SW stating the same thing. I know paying for EB does not guarantee an A BP, but I would be really angry if I had to board after families who did not pay. There should be a way for them to board all EBCI's, then any A's that are left, then families. So if EBCI's goes to lets say B 12, then families should board after that. I think that is the fair way. ;)

The reason to board small children before the B BPs are that:
1) It sometimes takes us a long time to get a car seat belted into an airline seat, get the toddler in it, store our stuff, and get settled. Do you really want to sit and wait while you watch me go through the whole routine?

2) If a family boards late, FAs wind up having to re-seat alot of people to accomodate a child who needs a parent near. Hassle for the FA, hassle for the re-seated, hassle for the passengers who have to wait while all this goes on.

Should families pay the EBCI? Heck, yes! I will. Will all families? No, some because they don't want to, some because they can't afford to, some because they don't know about it.

BTW, you are not paying to get on before other people. You are paying so that you do not have to hover by your computer at the 24 hour mark. You are paying for an automatic BP assignment. You are paying for convenience, not a particular spot in line.
 
We did EB for Vegas. Got A18 & 19. DH & I like to sit together and have a preference of where we sit on the plane. That is why I paid the extra.

Now, my observation on this trip was there were at least a dozen handicaped people who preboarded. I have no problem with that at all and no problem with a family member going with them. I do have a problem with the fact that 1 family saved about 3 rows of seats from rows 6, 7 & 8. I know if I wanted those seats I could take them but who wants to have a confrontation on a plane that you are going to be on for hours. I think something needs to be done about that from the airlines.

I guess there will always be people who do what is best for them and dont do what is right.
 
Pish-posh. That doesn't concern me. JetBlue doesn't fly there, so I'm not going :rotfl2:

Er, do I need to once again point out the smelly foreigner ownership agreement at JetBlue? Consider that they DO fly to certain countries and you DO have your own personal tour guide who WILL be delighted to show you places! :yay:
 
The reason to board small children before the B BPs are that:
1) It sometimes takes us a long time to get a car seat belted into an airline seat, get the toddler in it, store our stuff, and get settled. Do you really want to sit and wait while you watch me go through the whole routine?

2) If a family boards late, FAs wind up having to re-seat alot of people to accomodate a child who needs a parent near. Hassle for the FA, hassle for the re-seated, hassle for the passengers who have to wait while all this goes on.

Should families pay the EBCI? Heck, yes! I will. Will all families? No, some because they don't want to, some because they can't afford to, some because they don't know about it.

BTW, you are not paying to get on before other people. You are paying so that you do not have to hover by your computer at the 24 hour mark. You are paying for an automatic BP assignment. You are paying for convenience, not a particular spot in line.


And this is exactly why I think SW should hold the back 1/4 of the plane for families. They can board first, and go back and take their time getting settled. No one would have to wait for them to get their seats buckled in, their massive amounts of gear stowed (yes, I've traveled with a youngster before), and get ready. They can board first, but not take up space while getting settled in the front or middle of the plane.
Sure seems like it would be a more equitable way of doing things...especially if people start paying extra for early bird checkin but end up with B bp numbers. That really doesn't seem fair to most of us. We do understand that families need more time to get situated, and most of us have no issue at all with families boarding inbetween the As and the Bs. But once someone has to pay for something and finds someone else doesn't have to pay for the same thing, it's going to get murky...and not so pleasant.
Here's a scenario.....
My family of 5 (not my case, just a scenario) is travling to MCO during a busy vacation time. We have no children 4 and younger with us, so don't qualify for inbetween A and B boarding. But, I realize it's going to be a busy time to travel so I decide to pay the extra $10 so I can get a bit of a jump on the seating. I have now paid an addtl $50..yes, for early checkin, not early boarding. But, because there are so many others traveling, I end up with B 1,2, 3, 4 and 5 spots. No problem...we're good to go. But, when we get to the airport and find that there are about 25 people who qualify for boarding inbetween A and B groups, well, that's going to annoy me. I paid that $50...they didn't. Now, they get to all board, with their families (and they do tend to board in groups that really aren't immediate family!) and by the time they are onboard, there is no way my family can now sit anywhere close to each other...maybe 2 in row 12, another 2 in row 20, and who knows where Dad is going!!
That would be my issue. And that's why I think that they need to have those who really need to preboard, go ahead and really preboard, but head to the rear of the plane so that others can more quickly board, without having to work around the familes.
Not to mention....there might be less complaining about what others' children are doing...you pretty much know where the youngsters are going to be on the plane.
 














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