Song lied that my flight was sold out!

[Aisling]

She might not have been lying.

I realize now that I was too quick to use the word "lied". Some posters have informed me that the Song agent must have had my flight appear on her screen as "sold out", whether it truly was or not. It was a knee-jerk reaction on my part to flip out after I spoke to her.

Now that my flight is back and accepting ressies, there are only 2 possibilities that I can think of: 1) a load of people cancelled their tickets at about the same time 2) the plane was never truly sold out

Anyway, after I calmed down about the possibility of my flight being cancelled, I thought it may be a good thing after all. I booked a 5 PM flight, but have been wishing I booked an earlier flight, and just miss work/school that day. So then I thought that if my flight gets cancelled, they'll put my family and I on an earlier flight, and we'd have those extra hours at WDW. If I change the flight myself, I have to pay Song $25 per person, plus the price difference from when I booked to what it is now. I booked when it was something like $75, and now it's $349, so there was no way I was doing that. If Song changes your time, it's free.

 

[Lewisc]

or Song flagged the flight as full because they were thinking of canceling the flight, not your specific flight/day but rather a reduction in the number of scheduled flights. They could also have been thinking of canceling another flight but needed to block out the rest of the seats on your flight to accommodate other passengers.

I'm sure the reservation agent just saw that no seats were available for sale. I don't think you were literally lied to.

I realize now that I was too quick to use the word "lied". Some posters have informed me that the Song agent must have had my flight appear on her screen as "sold out", whether it truly was or not. It was a knee-jerk reaction on my part to flip out after I spoke to her.

Now that my flight is back and accepting ressies, there are only 2 possibilities that I can think of: 1) a load of people cancelled their tickets at about the same time 2) the plane was never truly sold out

Anyway, after I calmed down about the possibility of my flight being cancelled, I thought it may be a good thing after all. I booked a 5 PM flight, but have been wishing I booked an earlier flight, and just miss work/school that day. So then I thought that if my flight gets cancelled, they'll put my family and I on an earlier flight, and we'd have those extra hours at WDW. If I change the flight myself, I have to pay Song $25 per person, plus the price difference from when I booked to what it is now. I booked when it was something like $75, and now it's $349, so there was no way I was doing that. If Song changes your time, it's free.

 

[bicker]

Also keep in mind that even if you were a travel agent, and could see that 200 tickets were sold for 200 seats, that doesn't mean the airline cannot sell more tickets. They can, and do, oversell flights, to account for forecast no-shows.

 

[seashoreCM]

Sooner or later the Song website stops showing a flight due to sold out status.

I'm not sure whether on the Delta website, anyone can book an unrestricted (full fare; Y) ticket on Song flights regardless of sold out status. United claims it will "forcibly book" (not using those words) anyone wishing to pay full fare. I actually think any airline's ticket agent can do a forcible booking if s/he pushed all the right buttons on the keyboard, although an infraction might result.

Disney hints:
http://members.aol.com/ajaynejr/disney.htm

 

[Aisling]

song 2044*: New York-Kennedy, NY (JFK) > Orlando, FL (MCO)

leaves: 5:00 pm, Fri 23 Dec 2005

arrives: 7:46 pm, Fri 23 Dec 2005

class: Coach (T)

status: Confirmed

Does anhyone know what the (T) means? Does it have to do with the price I paid for the ticket?

 

[bicker]

Seems likely.

Delta Fare Class T is a discounted fare that doesn't earn frequent flyer miles.

 

[erikthewise]

I disagree. The schedule and load-level information the airlines provide is explicitly limited in purpose, and using it to assure that your flight is "full enough so that it won't be cancelled" is not one of those purposes. Beyond that, it is very customer-focused of an airline to block futher reservations on a flight they are considering for cancellation.

Furthermore, please keep in mind that, with most airlines, when you book airline tickets, you are not being promised space on a specific flight at a specific time. You are booking passage from one city to another on a specific date, nothing more. Any other aspect of your reservation -- the flight times, the connecting city(ies) or the fact that the flight is non-stop, the aircraft, and even the carrier that will operate your flight is all subject to change, and can even change without significant notice. These things rarely happen, but in the interest of the incredibly low fares we have in this country, those limitations are always in place on most airlines, and can be exercised, so be aware.

In the case of an airline in financial trouble, you may not even be buying that much. What you are actually buying when you buy an airline ticket is pretty murky. It seems to be something like a futures contract on an airline flight. You are buying the opportunity to be on that flight, should it actually take place and not be over capacity.

 

[Aisling]

You are buying the opportunity to be on that flight, should it actually take place and not be over capacity.

The opportunity?? That doesn't sound good at all!

 

[miss missy]

My return flight was changed, and it is no longer available to buy today... but it is still my flight and it IS sold out.

They condence flight times that don't sell well and add them to other flights, so your flight TIME will most likely change for sure. This is normal stuff...'
I would def ask about that non stop flight... that is NOT cool if they changed that on you.


I myslef, love song! They are great to fly. Good luck.

 

[seashoreCM]

T is Delta's "fare war" discount fare and is not always offered.
U is the "everyday low price" until the seat allotment at that price is gone.

U and T do earn frequent flyer miles (at least they did when I flew this past May) but those miles do not count towards elite or medallion or gold status.