Something Madonna Said on the Oprah Show

[goodstarr]

Charabby and Mickey 88,
Thanks you so much for your comments. I'm so glad that I actually view celebrities like other people do. Thanks for having the conviction to state them.

 

[Pam]

In other words, when you don't know what you are talking about, its probably better to keep your mouth shut.

Snoopy,
You're my hero.....

 

[Spinning]

As for the women who killed themselves because they could not have children, they should of taken the responsiblity to get therapy when they felt suicidal

What a load of crock! I am sorry but most people who commitee suicide are not rational or realize they need help! Yeah it would be great for any one who killed themselves to say, " oh wait this isn't right I need help".. and pick up the phone...

How can anyone in their right mind make such an assumption? I lost a dear friend to suicide....and he was getting therapy! So get over it Goofygirl....

I know you just like to push buttons but you are ove the top on this one....you know nothing about the pain of infertility or the joy of parenthood it isn't what you want so leave it be

 

[debster812]

can't believe I'm wading into this

First off--Madonna can believe and philosophize all she likes, and who knows, maybe that works for her and her family. As another poster stated, it is certainly not one size fits all, but if it works for her and her family, more power to them.

Now, onto the 'heated' part of this;

How about those pitiful couples, who have been suffering (yeah, I know GG, just get over) with infertility, and finally take the plunge and decide to adopt. Ok, fine so far. Then what happens when that couple gets on a plane, to go get the baby from the hospital, and the birth mother changes her mind, and checks herself out of the hospital, AMA, an hour before they arrived? It took 2 social workers to calm them down enough so they could get themselves to their hotel. They tried to move beyond their infertility, and this one instance brought them just as much, if not more, heartache. What's the 'easy' pat answer to that one???

Oh, and I know, they "should" have tried to adopt an older child, and not focused on a baby, right?

Well, this bump in the road, 2 more mis-steps, and finally, success, and my GodFather and his wife adopted their son!!!

 

[Pig Pen]

First of all I think Oprah and Madonna worked extremely hard to get where they are. Neither were born with silver spoons in their mouths. I think they were blessed with a mixture of talent, ambition, guts, and a lot of luck.

That being said, I never watch Oprah because she is so self-righteous. I also believe Madonna is just a few cards short of a full deck.

I also think that just because they were able to pull themselves up by their bootstraps doesn't necessarily mean that every sexually abused child or homeless runaway has the potential to become a rock star or talk show host.

I also don't believe in wallowing in self pity. How we react to situations are in our control for the most part. I, for one, hate my job and am totally stressed out. I can choose to stay in this position and make lots of money, or give it up for peace of mind and Ramen noodles. It's my choice. (Those Ramen noodles are looking better every day)!

I don't think sickness, accidents, or health problems are in our control unless we are self abusive (smoking).

Noel - I also have a friend who was told she would never conceive a child. Heartbroken, she and her hubby arranged to adopt a little 3 month old baby who had been abused. Three months later she was pregnant! Now she has two little boys about 18 months apart in age.

So it can happen.

 

[SilverLily]

Originally posted by goofygirl
Again, I say the actual pain/condition may not be your fault, but how you react is up to you. If you are crying and whining and wallowing in sorrows, the blame for that rests solely on YOUR shoulders, not mine, nor anyone elses'.

Sometimes it is good for a person to cry and whine when they have experienced pain. Then they can move on and begin to heal.

Or maybe they should skip the grieving part and just keep it all inside, and as a result become the nastiest person around, unable to feel compassion for others. Seems like this works for some people around here.

 

[Serena]

 

[Boston Tea Party]

What the world needs now is love, sweet love
It’s the only thing that there’s just too little of
What the world needs now is love, sweet love,
No not just for some but for everyone. - Burt Bacharach

You will be a lot happier when you develop the ability to empathize with others. Best of luck on that endeavor.

 

[TheGlensideGregorys]

Bottom line, so that there is no mistake - you are completely clueless.

This was the most shallow, inhumane, egotistical thing I've read here in quite some time.

 

[The DIS Moderator Team]

That's about it for the personal attacks. This thread has run it's course.