Some people are so rude!

[Disneyliscious]

Hmmm...interesting insights coming from the poster that started a now closed thread regarding too many strollers in the MK. I guess in certain cases good manners are subjective.

A complaint about too many large strollers has nothing to do with manners. What are you talking about? I never once said anything to any of them. I voice my opinion here, on a discussion board.....which is its intended use.

 

[Disneyliscious]

So using your logic, manners only need to be displayed in the "right" circumstances? Wow! WHO is to determine WHAT the "right" circumstances are? Do we need an entire new Emily Post book written on "the right circumstances to use your manners"?? I don't think so. In an ideal world, everyone would use good manners all the time. Of course we all know that will never happen but it's something to strive for.

Using your logic again, that's like saying handicapped people shouldn't be able to use handicapped parking at the mall because they don't HAVE to go to a big shopping mall . They made a choice to go there.

IMHO, I think you are just making excuses for bad manners when it's convenient for you. Whether you're at Disney, on a crowded city bus, etc. people should consider others. It's all about having awareness for other people and being considerate. Too many people think "If nobody else is doing it then why should I"?? That's really just a shame.

Maybe if it wasnt constantly shoved down the throats of people like me that we should do this or should do that....things just might change ;-)

The funny thing is.....its not the pregnant women, old people, or stroller packin families that do the shoving! Its likey people who just like to blah blah blah to others all day.

They never offer sugestions on how to fix the issue......they just want to cram cram cram.

 

[Disneyliscious]

And one last thing:

I am SO tired of having to watch everything I say on here for fear one person will be the exception and be offended. Everyone has or knows someone who knows someone with an extenuating circumstance. I don't intend to be disrespectful if I come across that way, but some people are so defensive and ready to argue.

I agree.

And for the record, I have been abnormally crabby since I got back from my trip. Maybe thats whats wong with me Either that or all the negativity on the boards is rubbing off on me...

I'm even irritating myself lately....

 

[Planogirl]

I agree.

And for the record, I have been abnormally crabby since I got back from my trip. Maybe thats whats wong with me Either that or all the negativity on the boards is rubbing off on me...

I'm even irritating myself lately....

I feel kind of like that too but I thought that it was the weather. Hmmmm....

When it comes to manners, I try to use common sense. If someone seems to need to sit I'm glad to help out. I don't do it because it's a rule and I don't expect someone to get up because I'm female.

 

[BeachClub1292]

1.)Rude isn't the word I would use to describe a British woman I got into it with at MK 6 years ago. We were on main street just in front of the ice cream parlor waiting for the parade to start that night. We made sure to get there over an hour early and we were still behind people but still a good place to watch. We spread out a blanked and my mom sis and nephew(7) sat down on it. my dad me and bro-in-law stood behind and we put the stroller next to us with my 3mo nephew in it sleeping.

People started sitting around us np. Then about 10min before the parade was going to come through a British woman with her daughter(around 7-8) and husband show up and stand next to us with no one standing in front of them so they could see still np. Btw I always stand in the back and let kids go in front of me so they can see. Me and my dad are talking and my nephew in the stroller is right next to me and i feel his stroller bump me so i look over and the lil girl had sat down wasn't happy she bumped the stroller but thought it was an accident. So i start talking to my dad again and then i feel the stoller move into me again and look over to see the woman pushing it over into me I yelled at her to get her hands off my nephew and not to touch the stroller again .

She then went on to try to yell at me that we need to move the stroller so they could sit are you kidding me. Before I could say anything everyone sitting around us went off on her. She was arguing with around 20 people. She then called Americans rude and stormed off with her husband and daughter. The husband stayed quit the whole time and looked embarrassed and I'm glad he didn't say or do anything it would have set me off.

2.)On another trip we were staying at the all star movies and the pop warner football and cheerleading competition was going on at WWofS so we had them all over the place at our resort. The football teams were great and listened to adults, didn't cause problems etc. The cheerleaders were the exact opposite cut in front of you in the food court at the resort, stand in front of the soda macine at the food court not getting anything but not moving so you could etc. But the one that took the cake was at the bus stop by pleasure island. It was late afternoon and my sis and I were waiting forever for the bus and a big line formed(we were in the front of the line) but no bus came for over 30min and DTD stop was closed for refubishing.

So when a bus finally did show up a group af cheerleaders walked up at the same time and tried walking right on the bus people hadn't even gotten off yet so they steped back. I told them to go to the end of the line there not getting on before anyone in line. But they tried anyways but the bus driver stopped them and told them there not getting on that bus they get to wait for the next one and let everyone in line on. The chaperone finally showed up and got into it with the bus driver and the bus driver closed the door and drove off not letting them one . I told the bus driver she did a great job and went and made sure that disney knew she did too.

 

[Elevationist]

 

[luvthemouse71]

Ha!This is awesome..

 

[dolphindan1]

I actually got reprimanded at work once because I offered a seat to a few women who came into a meeting and there were no other seats left because that could be construed as sexual harassment

So sad isnt....

 

[dolphindan1]

Thank you. I was curious to know when being a woman became a disability? Or, for that matter, a pregnant woman?/quote]

I dont think anyone is saying be a woman is a disability....way to imply...Its a matter of common courtesy, Kindness, and respect....men have always been and still should be taught to respect a woman and treat a woman with respect and kindness....and I am sorry but I will always give up my seat, open a door, help with a heavy object, get something off the top shelf, throw my jacket over a puddle or whatever for a lady...So will both of my boys...

BUT since you are opening that can of worms...a person with a disablity should be treated equally too....so in that respect we shouldnt give up our seats for anyone...No I agree with equal rights....If a woman wants to work construction or fight wars no one should stop her BUT I will still treat her like a lady....Lable me sexist all you want...I could careless

 

[dolphindan1]

It's obvious many of you people weren't raised in the south. I don't care how tired I am, if a lady, pregant woman, child is standing and I'm sitting I'll be up before you can know it.

Any man who sits while a woman stands is in my opinion is no man!

Bravo....I feel the same way...SC guy here....

 

[dolphindan1]

I am one of the people that you are commenting about. I am a woman. And, if you offer me your seat, I will VERY POLITEY say no thank you. My son and I will be standing the entire ride, unless there are extra seats. I would also be standing if I were pregnant. It isn't a disability! I appreciate the thought, and, am not a feminist, but I am an able bodied person just like you. My hubby isn't (hidden disability), and he'll still try to offer up his seat.

And thats how it should be....I think its gone to far to consider it sexual harrassment or sexist or whatever....just a kind gesture form a nice person...if you wanna decline so be it...

I also have a couple health issues...I wouldnt go so far as to say they are disabilities but they do wear me down quickly...I will still give up my seat for a lady or the elderly...just being a kind heart

 

[dolphindan1]

What I'm saying is if a tree falls in the woods and there's no one there to hear it, does it make a sound. The answer is no. It has nothing to do with Disney inforcing any kind of rule, or breaking any kind of law. I need not say any more.

UUHHHHH yes it will still make a sound...or am I missing something....

 

[dolphindan1]

Ah, this has been discussed by philosophers since the beginning of time, far and wide, and it has finally been answered on the DIS.

Now if we can only figure out The Chicken or the Egg.....

 

[dolphindan1]

I already responded to this once, but I will do it again...



I said that it my job to teach my children manners, not just my boys. Somehow that phrase was missed in your reading of my statement. Giving up your seat isn't a chivalrous gesture, but a polite one. Nowhere in my original statement did I indicate that it was a gender specific responsibility. It just so happens that my children who are old enough to stand up on the bus on either side of their dad happen to be boys, while the youngest child who still sits on my lap happens to be a girl.

Its still chivalrous

from Wikipedia

Chivalry[1] is a term related to the medieval institution of knighthood. It is usually associated with ideals of knightly virtues, honor and courtly love. The word is derived from the French word chevalier, indicating one who rides a horse (Fr. cheval).
Today, the terms chivalry and chivalrous are used to describe courteous behavior, especially that of men towards women.

 

[contemporarymom]

A complaint about too many large strollers has nothing to do with manners. What are you talking about? I never once said anything to any of them. I voice my opinion here, on a discussion board.....which is its intended use.

You stated your opinion, I stated mine. Bottom line regarding your posts. You can't have it both ways. In your opinion, according to your post on this thread, pregnant women, disabled people and the elderly made a choice to go to Disney so they have no right to expect a person to give up their seat or complain if they must stand. Basically buck up and deal with the way other people choose to act.

On the other thread you went on and on about how inconvenienced you felt by the large amount of strollers, people who brought babies to Disney and anyone over the age of five in a stroller. How in your opinion something needed to be done and people should alter the way they vacation to make your vacation more pleasant.

These two opinions are contradictory. On one hand you're telling others it's their choice so no whining, no expectations, and on the other hand you're whining about a choice you made knowing full well strollers, babies, etc. are all part of Disney. Hypocritical and self-serving, both of which in my book are rude. Just my opinion.

For the record we are born and bred Northerners and both our DS and DD have been taught to give up their seats for others who need it more. Then again, they also address their elders by sir and ma'am and say please and thank-you. They're weird that way.

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

i'm tellin' y'all. we southerners get a package at birth of fake manners, and we apply them often, while immediately turning around and talking smack behind your back. we're good at it, we're famous at it, and i'm quite proud of it. it's not an easy thing to do.

we will get up out of our seats and hold the door open for you in a heartbeat, but will turn around, roll our eyes and then bless your heart as soon as we're done!

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

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I totally agree with you on this one! Some people will get defensive on a drop of a hat. I do usually give people the benefit of the doubt (ECV's etc.) but sometimes I go with my gut and my gut is always, ALWAYS right! There are people out there that truly will cheat the system.

Your "gut" is always right? How would you know that? Medical records, or just some inner voice?

 

[ogreenlee]

I agree.

And for the record, I have been abnormally crabby since I got back from my trip. Maybe thats whats wong with me Either that or all the negativity on the boards is rubbing off on me...

I'm even irritating myself lately....

Please don't blame the board for your crabbiness. Much of the negativity I've seen this week has come from your posts. Just sayin'.

 

[rubato]

Thank you. I was curious to know when being a woman became a disability? Or, for that matter, a pregnant woman?/quote]

I dont think anyone is saying be a woman is a disability....way to imply...Its a matter of common courtesy, Kindness, and respect....men have always been and still should be taught to respect a woman and treat a woman with respect and kindness....and I am sorry but I will always give up my seat, open a door, help with a heavy object, get something off the top shelf, throw my jacket over a puddle or whatever for a lady...So will both of my boys...

BUT since you are opening that can of worms...a person with a disablity should be treated equally too....so in that respect we shouldnt give up our seats for anyone...No I agree with equal rights....If a woman wants to work construction or fight wars no one should stop her BUT I will still treat her like a lady....Lable me sexist all you want...I could careless

I appreciate your response. I am all for common courtesy and chilvalry. My son pulls my chair out at dinner and opens my door (if my hubby hasn't already). I work hard for them and they treat me well. It's just that on the bus, everyone is tired and gripey and I'm in excellent health. If someone is standing that looks like they're about to fall over from exhaustion, I would feel horrible sitting in my seat because I'm a woman. That's all. So, thank you!

 

[Disneyliscious]

Please don't blame the board for your crabbiness. Much of the negativity I've seen this week has come from your posts. Just sayin'.

I believe I gave an either/or response there and not one person or entity was blamed for anything. Chillax just a little. Its ok. The world wont end regardless of whether Im nice or crabby.

Nearly 300,000 members here and Im the one giving "much" of the negativity? How negative is THAT?