So what's the word on the next DVC?

[RonnoLovesFaline]

I'm interested in joining, but I want to join in the worst way. I am young enough that I want to get a place with the extended expiration window not offered by a resale. Problem is that SSR just doesn't do anything for me. Nothing wrong with it per se, but I don't like it enough to make it my home.

I have read on here bits and pieces on what may be the next DVC project. Something near the Contemporary, perhaps. Anyone heard anything? What appears to be the liekly timeframe of the new place?

 

[Happy Birthday Cat]

Welcome to the Dis Boards.

Disney has already announced Eagle Pines which looks like it will be put even more on to the back burner now that another phase has been added to SSR. SSR should be selling into 2007.

The CR DVC has been rumored on these boards for at least a couple of years now. To me it seems to fit more in line with what Disney has done recently with it's last three resorts of VWL, BCV and SSR of using existing infastructure to create a DVC resort. But that's only a guess.

So why don't you buy a resale now and then see what develops in a few years?

HBC

 

[Chuck S]

Prior to SSR construction, there was a large DVC resort scheduled for an area near the Eagle Pines/Osprey Ridge golf courses. This was put on hold to build SSR because the SSR (former Disney Institute) site already had the infrastructure available. This may eventually be the case with the rumored Contemporary DVC units, as the infrastructure would already be in place there, as well. However, the Contemporary is still only a rumor, nothing official from DVC.

 

[tjkraz]

Agree with everything HBC said. If SSR sales continue at present level, it will be on the market at least into 2008. (More likely, I'd say things will probably slow a bit, streching that timetable out a year or more.)

Given the recent history of price increases, you'll almost certainly be paying $120+ per point by then.

 

[sparkspeak]

Has there been any mention of an Animal Kingdom DVC resort?

 

[tjkraz]

Not that I've ever heard. I've never stayed at AK, but many who have stated that the design of the resort (and particularly it's relationship to the savanah) really isn't condusive to slapping on a DVC wing as they did at BC and WL.

 

[JudyS]

I agree with HBC, too. You could buy resale, enjoy your DVC membership, and then add-on at a new resort later, or sell your old membership and buy a new one, or maybe even trade your old membership with another member who has points in a new resort.

Just curious -- how old (or rather, how young) are you?

 

[erikthewise]

Now that it's been triple-sized, SSR IS the next DVC resort, and the one after that too! It's pure speculation what will come after that, but there's no shortage of such speculation.

 

[dianeschlicht]

I'm a little confused about what happened to the Eagle Pines resort. We had detailed plans sent out to us complete with artists renderings and then it got back burnered for SSR. Since SSR is not expected to sell out for some years, and now the CR rumor, I wonder if DVC has scrapped the whole EP project!

I personally think DVC might try again to do something really unusual with DVC, Maybe inside a park or something.

 

[Granny]

Diane...you think they're going to put some villas in Cindy's castle?? Just kidding....I'm sure the Disney folks are thinking in many diverse ways about DVC.

As for EP, I think the SSR sales will have an impact on that decision. If SSR continues to sell briskly through sell out, then Disney might feel that building another DVC "away from the parks" might work. However, that would be discounting the DTD location and its own attraction as a sales incentive for SSR.

My own guess is that Disney sees how it can reclaim property that might be flagging somewhat in sales (as it did with the Disney Institute). That's why I don't discount the Contemporary Resort rumors. That might be a double win for Disney....selling new DVC units very quickly and an infusion of money to refurbish the CR itself. I can only guess what price per point they would ask for!!

But back to the OP's question, I also agree with HBC. If you want to join in the next few years, and SSR isn't your cup of tea, then resale for "only" 37 more years might be your best bet.

Good luck!

 

[OneMoreTry]

Originally posted by Granny
If you want to join in the next few years, and SSR isn't your cup of tea, then resale for "only" 37 more years might be your best bet.

Good luck!

Even though DVC can potentially save money -- if you use the points wisely -- it also entails a financial risk. The value of your points is dependent on the long term success of WDW and the economy. Also, there is a real possibility that Disney may be bought by a megacorporation -- in fact it almost happened recently -- and DVC could be sold!!!

AND by the time DVC builds another resort, the contract length could be down to 40 years!

I'm not trying to convince you to avoid DVC, but I am trying to suggest that you seriously consider buying a 37 year contract. It's less money, less time, BUT also less risk. If you LOVED SSR I would say go for it. But since you don't I think resale may be the right choice for you.

 

[eileenfk]

Originally posted by Granny
Diane...you think they're going to put some villas in Cindy's castle?? Just kidding....I'm sure the Disney folks are thinking in many diverse ways about DVC.

Good luck!

IF they did that, I would buy there for sure (unless I really couldn't afford it).
In fact, a fairy tale themed resort with fun, reasonably quick, transportation to the Magic Kingdom would be just my cup of tea.

Eileen

 

[whjoyjr]

Pop Century construction has been haulted in it's tracks, with 2 room buildings as well as the central building under construction in the legacy years section. Those buildings look like some old abondoned roadside motels along I-95. Bad Show. By bet is that Pop Century will not be completed, and the portions under construction bulldozed in the next 24 months.

Disney, IMHO, mis-judged the supply and demand calculation for standard hotel rooms. Disney does not usually make the same mistake twice.

After SSR sells out, I would bet on the CR DVC resort to get announced. After that, I think DVC may be done with construction. I base that reason on what the exit stragety will be when the DVC contracts end, and those additional rooms revert to Disney. The property can only support a finite number of resort rooms. I think Eagle Pines may never be built.

Disclosure: I do not hold an interest in DVC or Disney as a company. I am looking at buying into DVC within the next 9 months.

 

[SSRex]

be the next SSR.

What I mean is that OKW was the original flagship for DVC with a 50 year membership ending in 2042. It was very big and remote.

SSR which replaced EP, is the new flagship of the next 50 year membership offering. SSR will be huge and is still a little remote.

I see Eagle Pines, if it ever does happen, as being the next big, remote, DVC reosrt to start third wave of 50 year memberships maybe in 2016.

After the first big, remote resort in each 50 year plan, they need smaller, more attractive resorts like VWL & BCV to sell for less than 50 years.

That is why I think the Contemporary will happen. Because a lot of people would buy into it for less than a 50 year membership.

Eagle Pines could still happen, but not at the same time as SSR.

 

[dianeschlicht]

Yes I DO think CR/DVC is a possibility. It would kind of follow what they have done in the recent past.

LOL, Cindy's castle was not what I had in mind, but I do think an "inside the park" DVC would certainly have a big draw!

 

[RoutemanDan]

Originally posted by SSRex
be the next SSR.

What I mean is that OKW was the original flagship for DVC with a 50 year membership ending in 2042. It was very big and remote.

SSR which replaced EP, is the new flagship of the next 50 year membership offering. SSR will be huge and is still a little remote.

I see Eagle Pines, if it ever does happen, as being the next big, remote, DVC reosrt to start third wave of 50 year memberships maybe in 2016.

After the first big, remote resort in each 50 year plan, they need smaller, more attractive resorts like VWL & BCV to sell for less than 50 years.

That is why I think the Contemporary will happen. Because a lot of people would buy into it for less than a 50 year membership.

Eagle Pines could still happen, but not at the same time as SSR.

Very interesting take Rex,great post!

 

[timC]

I agree with the CR comments... It looks like a winner: existing infrastructure in a prime location that's currently under-utilized.

After that it gets real complicated... There is a point when there is over-capacity. Someone mentioned pop century. Over capacity will put downward pressure on room rates, which could make DVC less competative.

IMO they will have to build another theme park, dramatically enhance an existing one... do something to grow park attendance to the next level, in order for DVC to expand much further within the boundaries of WDW.

OR... They can convert exiting capacity (like the north wing of CR) to DVC resorts... Maybe a moderate will be next.

 

[JoeCathyAngelina]

"In fact, a fairy tale themed resort with fun, reasonably quick, transportation to the Magic Kingdom would be just my cup of tea"

I think that's what everybody really whats, a better transportation system to the parks. let's face it folks, a bus is a bus. A monorail system to all the parks from all the DVC resorts?

 

[DisneyBill]

Originally posted by JoeCathyAngelina
[BA monorail system to all the parks from all the DVC resorts? [/B]

Wonder what it would cost to add this? Let's see 90,000 members, a one time assessment of_____?

 

[carlos1117]

You guys are smart! I wonder if the folks at Disney have the insight of some of you.

Anyway, CR would be great, but I also agree we need to protect DVC as much as we can and convince Disney the value of its DVC members.