So what bothers you at WDW that may not bother anyone else???

[robinb]

And while it bothers most people, I like to be on rides when they break down, it fascinates me to see the lights come on, etc.

I like it too! Even when the old Test Track would break down on me. I would joke with the rest of the car that it was my fault. It seemed to happen all the time.

I've been physically evacuated from 2 rides (we were on the 2nd uphill on BTMR and had to walk down the stairs) and I rode Space Mountain with the lights on. I will *never* raise my hands in the air on that ride again.

BTW, do you know that you are member # "11111"? I noticed it when I quoted you.

 

[Ms_Butterfly]

Flash photography where it isn't allowed, as it not only interferes with others' experiences of the ride/show, but it can physically harm me to have a bright flash of light in a dark ride/room due to one of my disabilities. The light itself is painful and it could also trigger my condition, which could make me very ill for the rest of the day or longer. There are plenty of places at Disney where flash photography is allowed, so just take your photos there, please!

Parents who drag their sick (with colds/flus/etc.) kids around Disney all day and night. Not only are you infecting others, especially if you haven't taught your kid to cover their mouth with their elbow or shoulder when sneezing or coughing, but your poor kid needs their rest instead of being out from park opening to EMH ending! I was once sick for just over one month (yes, month) thanks to this situation of a stroller-aged kid hacking into the air (no covering his mouth or wearing a mask) at a nearby table at Le Cellier for lunch - and a day or two later saw the parents still dragging the sick kid around during Evening EMH. I felt bad for the kid!

Rude CMs. They're few and far between, but when they are rude, they tend to be very rude. If someone asks you a simple question, such as confirming that they are in line for the correct bus at the end of the night, there's zero need to snap at them!

Rude visitors. I am disabled and was sitting in the disabled seating, my service dog quite visibly laying at my feet, on a bus that had only my friend and I on it. We stopped at another bus stop and the driver started getting things ready to bring the waiting man in a scooter onboard, in the second disabled seating section which I was not sitting in. All of a sudden, the scootering man's wife came on the bus and started literally screaming at me that I had to get up from my seat for her husband! Seriously, what the?! Thankfully, the awesome bus driver put her in her place and told her that under no circumstances was she to ever yell at his passengers! She calmed down enough to have a friendly conversation during the bus ride, though you could tell she was embarrassed at her actions.

On a bus with no more seats available, but room to stand, able-bodied people who refuse to get up from the seats marked as Disabled Priority seats for people who need them due to disability. If you choose to sit there, you choose to be in a situation where you might get bumped from your seat so someone who cannot stand/balance while the bus is moving won't start playing Human Dominos in the middle of the bus ride. Same thing in the accessible monorail vehicle.

Disney's buses that force crowds of people to stand. I just don't think it is very safe and wish they could design a bus like a ride vehicle/the MK train with seats all the way across (the bus could either be open-air or the whole side could lift open) and dedicated wheelchair/scooter area in the front (like on the train).

Me for not having gone to Disney in I think it has been three years!!!! Wahhhhhhh!

 

[YawningDodo]

Well, since women are equal to men, I don't have a problem with them standing. For me it's age; I will certainly offer my seat to a senior citizen, regardless of gender.

Also I guess maybe just from being from a different time as I've been reading this thread as a man - you become a gentleman on the buses to ladies, elderly, and disabled I just assumed that's how everyone raises their children or young men to be.

It just seems like the right the to do.

Chiming in here...as a young woman in reasonably good health, I have no more need or right to a seat than a young man in reasonably good health. I want to be treated equally in all ways. That means equal access to opportunities, equal pay...and equal likelihood to miss out on a bus seat. When I'm old or if I become disabled, then I will expect a bus seat. For now it's first come first serve as far as I'm concerned, and I'll give up my seat for anyone older or more tired-looking than myself, man or woman. Children should be taught to hold doors and give up seats for their elders, period, not taught to pick out people for special treatment by gender.

I am not some crazy tree hugger, organic everything etc....but...I can't stand the amount of waste Created by the magic band packages and all the disposable paper goods. Pepper mkt does real plates and I think some others could too. Obviously not practical everywhere...

Agreed! I get why so much is disposable (serious savings on labor), but when you think of the massive scale on which Disney operates...that's a lot of paper plates every day.

 

[Karin1984]

Thirty something, healthy, young woman speaking: Im all for equality between men and women, but I don't consider a man holding a door open or giving me his seat part of that. I rather see it like this: the man gets to feel good about himself as he is being a gentleman and I get a seat. Win win situation!

It's not that I need the seat, but if it's offered voluntarily... I smile, I thank the man and enjoy the ride.

See it as disney magic outside the world. Like if someone offers you their good viewing spot for the parade or fireworks, offers to take the second car, so you can ride the front car. If it doesn't matter to the person being nice, I don't see a reason why it should matter to me.

 

[Cyrano]

This is not assisting with trip planning so is being moved to Community board.

As always stay respectful and within board guidelines

 

[Goofey Drool]

I cringe a little when I hear certain words posted on here. Words that I really don't hear anywhere else. For instance, " Whimsical" or "yummy". My personal favorite is when describing park crowds as "manageable" another words the crowds sucked. I went to Magic Kingdom and the crowds were manageable, Fantasyland looked so Whimsical and the dolewip was just yummy. Sorry....had to tie it all together.

 

[ThistleMae]

Ok, I know I'm going to incur a lot of shade from this but I'm going to admit it. It bugs me when you've been waiting for a bus for xyz amount of time and a guest in a scooter comes up just before the bus arrives and is able to get on first. Now them getting on first is not really what bugs me, what really bugs me is that their entire family gets to board the bus as well regardless to how many and regardless how many others have been waiting there longer with their families. I've seen it happen to many times. We're a family of 3 and we'll be waiting with other families and all of a sudden someone in a scooter shows up with 10 family members and all ten family members get to board the bus and the really see no harm in doing so even though they are fully aware that they are jumping ahead of everyone else who has been waiting for that same bus. There should be something said by the driver that will allow for the person in the scooter and 1 other person to accompany them at peak times during the mornings and at park closings.

What would you have them do, if they are a family vacationing together? Get to the park alone and sit and wait for their family to arrive? What would you do if you became disabled and your family couldn't travel with you? Just something to think about.

 

[ThistleMae]

This! I always say 'oh great place to stop, right in the middle of a walk way.' I get the castle is there but geez, move to the side!

Yeah, people with no break lights often get rear ended!

 

[ThistleMae]

What's up with everyone saying they look down on people who don't grab a seat at a QS before ordering? I thought Disney didn't allow this?

Well...I saw one post to this effect and I just thought it was funny....since so many people were offended by the table savers!

 

[LizardQueen8]

I'm a go with the flow sort of person on vacations, and truly not much bothers me because most of it is so fleeting and I can't control others, only myself, but... OH MY GOD THE PEOPLE WHO INSIST ON TAKING FLASH PHOTOS ON DARK RIDES. Death is too good for them .

 

[Goofy'slady]

What would you have them do, if they are a family vacationing together? Get to the park alone and sit and wait for their family to arrive? What would you do if you became disabled and your family couldn't travel with you? Just something to think about.

You obviously didn't really read my original post or my subsequent post, but Ill summarize. Families and large groups travel and vacation together at WDW all the time. I'm sure they have been unable to stay together 100% of the time for practical reasons. As I've also stated, I don't expect a scooter or wheelchair guest to separate from their family but sometimes its not FEASIBLE! Now, as I've stated they should board a bus with a member of their party so that they can get the assistance they may want/need. That's only practical. I don't even have a problem if they are traveling with a small family say 3-4 other people and they board along with the disabled person. Perfectly fine. My issue is for those guest who are apart of a large group or family 10+ members that get to board ahead of those who have been waiting for sometime before they show up. Now, if my small family happens to come up behind a family of a large group and one of those members is in a scooter or wheelchair I would not have an issue with waiting behind them just as if I would have to wait behind a large group or family without a scooter member traveling with them. I suppose my real issue is that more often than not my experience has been that their large traveling parties are aloud to jump ahead of everyone else just because one member is in a wheelchair or scooter.

Also as I've stated (which either you didn't read or chose to ignore) one of my older sister's has lupus. On the outside she looks perfectly fine however, she cannot stand going day in and day out walking around in the hot Florida sun without being seriously drain of all her energy which later turns into pain. To avoid those issues she rents a scooter - those of us traveling with her do not expect to get the same special arrangements that she does. We can walk perfectly fine - SHE CANNOT. However, we also understand that there will be times where we cannot travel to and from the parks together do to space issues and yes the rest of us standing in line after those who have been there before we arrived. We don't expect that if she is chosen by a generous CM to ride a bus or an attraction that the same goes for all of us. If it happens to be the case great but we wait our turn. Most of the time when traveling with my sister it's usually my brother in law or myself who rides on the bus with her and we wait for the rest of the party "catch up" with us at our designated local. We usually use our cell phones to keep track of each other in the meantime. Is it convenient? Not always, but we think it's fair to those around us. When it's just been me and my sister arriving ahead of the others we tend to browse in the shops along Main Street, or wherever we happen to be to pass the time until the rest of our party arrives which believe it or not is at most 15-20. We don't mind it a bit and it doesn't ruin our vacation in the least. So while I'm not disabled I know what it is to travel with someone who needs special assistance.

Happy travels to everyone this summer!

 

[ThistleMae]

My personal "favorites":

A guy on the bus to CSR told his phone conversation partner that he was arriving at "Colorado Springs".

I heard someone saying they were going to "ride the log flume" next.

My wife called AK "Animal Planet" for years, but she has a history of mixing up words. "Fast Track" was what she originally called TT

Also, why is it "Kuh-RIB-ee-in Beach", but "Pirates of the Kar-ih-BEE-in"?

It takes newbies a bit to get things right....be patient and kind....sometimes people with hearing disabilities get things wrong too.

 

[disneyseniors]

I have one that I haven't seen on any of these type posts: When you are seated for a performance, show, etc, and someone has to get up and cross in front of you. I know nature calls, but can't people say "excuse me" instead of stepping on your feet, bumping into you, and shoving by???? When that happens, I say loudly," You're excused"!!! Just common courtesy, I think. Sadly I see this more and more!

 

[disneyseniors]

You obviously didn't really read my original post or my subsequent post, but Ill summarize. Families and large groups travel and vacation together at WDW all the time. I'm sure they have been unable to stay together 100% of the time for practical reasons. As I've also stated, I don't expect a scooter or wheelchair guest to separate from their family but sometimes its not FEASIBLE! Now, as I've stated they should board a bus with a member of their party so that they can get the assistance they may want/need. That's only practical. I don't even have a problem if they are traveling with a small family say 3-4 other people and they board along with the disabled person. Perfectly fine. My issue is for those guest who are apart of a large group or family 10+ members that get to board ahead of those who have been waiting for sometime before they show up. Now, if my small family happens to come up behind a family of a large group and one of those members is in a scooter or wheelchair I would not have an issue with waiting behind them just as if I would have to wait behind a large group or family without a scooter member traveling with them. I suppose my real issue is that more often than not my experience has been that their large traveling parties are aloud to jump ahead of everyone else just because one member is in a wheelchair or scooter.

Also as I've stated (which either you didn't read or chose to ignore) one of my older sister's has lupus. On the outside she looks perfectly fine however, she cannot stand going day in and day out walking around in the hot Florida sun without being seriously drain of all her energy which later turns into pain. To avoid those issues she rents a scooter - those of us traveling with her do not expect to get the same special arrangements that she does. We can walk perfectly fine - SHE CANNOT. However, we also understand that there will be times where we cannot travel to and from the parks together do to space issues and yes the rest of us standing in line after those who have been there before we arrived. We don't expect that if she is chosen by a generous CM to ride a bus or an attraction that the same goes for all of us. If it happens to be the case great but we wait our turn. Most of the time when traveling with my sister it's usually my brother in law or myself who rides on the bus with her and we wait for the rest of the party "catch up" with us at our designated local. We usually use our cell phones to keep track of each other in the meantime. Is it convenient? Not always, but we think it's fair to those around us. When it's just been me and my sister arriving ahead of the others we tend to browse in the shops along Main Street, or wherever we happen to be to pass the time until the rest of our party arrives which believe it or not is at most 15-20. We don't mind it a bit and it doesn't ruin our vacation in the least. So while I'm not disabled I know what it is to travel with someone who needs special assistance.

Happy travels to everyone this summer!

Very eloquently and well said! I have fibromyalgia with lupus type immune syndrome. I also get fatigued(usually start the day that way), which sooner rather than later turns into severe pain. I haven't gotten an electric vehicle yet, but will need to some day. It's usually just me and my husband who travel together, so a small party. I am having second thoughts about using an ECV due to the comments I see here and other sites aimed at cart users in general. I really don't want to inconvenience anyone else by using one, so will try to go it with the pain and disability again this year. Maybe in the future?????

 

[disneyseniors]

This is also my pet peeve! I hate seeing able bodied teens and adults sitting down while the elderly and small children are left to stand. I taught my daughter early on that we will stand if there are other people on the bus who need the seats more. Our day will come when we need those seats, and right now we should feel blessed for having the ability to stand and keep our balance.

Hi, I'm a "senior" citizen with a hidden disability who also loves all things Disney I have to say that I am almost always offered a seat while on the buses. I do not expect it or demand it. If a bus arrives and is full (and I can wait for another), I will wait for another one. People are for the most part wonderful about that. One evening last Nov while at WDW, I was offered a seat by 3 teenage girls, on my way back to the resort. We started a conversation with them and their mother. I mentioned that I just couldn't stay for the fireworks due to some physical problems, but really wanted to see them. Oh well, maybe next time. The Mom got out her phone and showed me that she videoed the fireworks the other nite, so I watched the fireworks after all. It was a wonderful thing for her to do, and I was able to finally see the fireworks So, just wanted to say that most people do the right thing!

 

[maxiesmom]

Those people who get to "jump ahead" of you onto the buses are also the very last ones let off at the parks. Just something to keep in mind.

It makes me very sad to think people see all the posts from people complaining about ECVs and then don't use them at the parks when they really need to. No one should avoid using one because of a bunch of unsympathetic so and sos on a message board. Imho THEY are the ones with the problems. If you need an ECV please use it! Don't suffer or put up with being in pain because of a few complainers.

 

[YawningDodo]

I'm just going to leave the conversation on courtesies by gender where it stands...I get that for some people it's meant purely as a nice gesture, and I assume that's what's happening when it's offered even if I end up saying no thank you. I just disagree with seeing it as a standard for good behavior for reasons already noted, and I'll leave it at that rather than delving deeper into gender politics.

Hi, I'm a "senior" citizen with a hidden disability who also loves all things Disney I have to say that I am almost always offered a seat while on the buses. I do not expect it or demand it.

Hidden disabilities are an important factor to remember, and I feel like it's less awkward for everyone if able-bodied people like myself just don't even sit down until the bus is loaded and we can see whether there are seats left over. Not always feasible (also have to not be in the way of others getting on the bus), but it could save someone who looks young and hale the embarrassment of asking for a seat they actually really need. Giving up your seat for a senior citizen is an obvious move and I'm glad people do it even if they don't know your specific reason for needing to sit down, but I've known a number of people who look perfectly healthy but struggle with something others can't see.

 

[themommy]

Very eloquently and well said! I have fibromyalgia with lupus type immune syndrome. I also get fatigued(usually start the day that way), which sooner rather than later turns into severe pain. I haven't gotten an electric vehicle yet, but will need to some day. It's usually just me and my husband who travel together, so a small party. I am having second thoughts about using an ECV due to the comments I see here and other sites aimed at cart users in general. I really don't want to inconvenience anyone else by using one, so will try to go it with the pain and disability again this year. Maybe in the future?????

My advice to you....if you feel the need for an ECV, get one! Do not put yourself in pain because of what someone might think! You have every right to try to cut down on your pain and what people may think should be of no consequence at all. You only live once, enjoy it!

 

[Goofy'slady]

Very eloquently and well said! I have fibromyalgia with lupus type immune syndrome. I also get fatigued(usually start the day that way), which sooner rather than later turns into severe pain. I haven't gotten an electric vehicle yet, but will need to some day. It's usually just me and my husband who travel together, so a small party. I am having second thoughts about using an ECV due to the comments I see here and other sites aimed at cart users in general. I really don't want to inconvenience anyone else by using one, so will try to go it with the pain and disability again this year. Maybe in the future?????

Please don't vacation in pain. If you need to save your energy and escape the pain longer then please rent a scooter or do whatever you feel you need to so that you can enjoy your trip. Suffering in pain should never be an option. Just plan accordingly, which I'm sure you're already doing. I'm glad you understood the points of my comments and realize I'm in no way trying to be curt towards those who use a scooter or wheelchair. I just came from the mall with my 80yr old aunt and that said sister with lupus. We were out shopping for something for our aunt to wear to my sister's daughter's wedding next weekend. Our aunt can walk short distances with her cane but because we were in an large outlet mall I suggested she use her wheelchair from store to store to save her energy but while she was inside the store she could walk around and shop if she felt up to it. I even had to let another customer know that she was next in line when the cashier saw my aunt in the wheelchair and started to take her instead of taking the woman who she overlooked because she spotted my aunt's chair. I insisted that the woman who was in line go ahead because she was there before us and I even told her that I was just having an online discussion about line jumping or going ahead of others simply because of a family member being in a chair. I told her I refuse to jump ahead. She finally went ahead.

Enjoy your next trip.

 

[Xennia]

Have you been to a CS restaurant when it's super busy? It's a real laugh riot to have to wander around with a tray of food getting colder by the moment because 1 out of 3 tables is being saved by families without food. Whoo, I have to wipe the tears of mirth from my eyes remembering when that's happened to me . Good times .

By hunting a table, you occupy the table for the amount of time it takes your DH to get the food and then the time it takes your family to eat. Again, that's not a big deal when it's not busy. However, when it is busy you have now occupied the table for probably twice as long as it takes you to eat and someone else could have used the table during your waiting period. Meanwhile, people wander around looking for an empty table or just give up and eat on the curb or on a trash can. Some of them have children or elderly family members who would need to be seated. In a chair and a table. You are entitled to your chair and a table while you are eating. You are not entitled to one while you are waiting when it is busy. That is why Disney has a system at some CS restaurants where people may not enter the seating area unless they have food and then a CM seats them at an empty table. I have seen it all of the CS restaurants in the MK over Christmas and Spring Break. It works very smoothly and we are usually seated in less than a minute with my food still hot. I have seen more than one table saver throw a snit fit because they couldn't go grab a table in advance. Now, *that's* funny .

If it's not busy, hookairs? Take a load off. Enjoy the a/c.

Well I get heat stroke. So if your going to yell at me while I recover then boo on you. Or if my mother in law who suffers with lupus needs to sit. I think you could find it in your heart to take your healthy self somewhere else. Judging people and not knowing the circumstances are super petty.