So Truth Comes Out..Arnold Schwarzenegger Has Other Child!

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Are you saying the same thing? The affair partner could have absolutely left the camera alone. Just because the spouse left it laying there didn't mean it HAD to be stolen. Like in your camera analogy, no one had to steal the camera...they could have left it be. The affair partner didn't have to get involved with the married person...they could have said "not interested."

I think you are giving too much control to the "other person".

I think we all agree that all parties need to take some blame but to give a bulk of the anger to a third party seems a bit foolish.
 
I don't disagree with this, but I think Arnold falls in the minority. Sounds like he's been on the prowl for years. Same with Tiger, Clinton and other big names who got caught. They WERE looking to cheat.

Yeah we got kinda side tracked into the general population. But I do agree that Arnold, John Edwards, Clinton, Newt, Tiger all fall into the narcissist category. They are doing it because they can. And let's face it, there will be no shortage of broken and damaged woman looking to hook up with a celebrity or politician just to say they did.

Still they are all disgusting and the women, no better.
 

I'm not defending a person who knowingly gets into a romantic/sexual relationship with a married person. That's immoral in my book. But as the cheated-on spouse, I would reserve the bulk of my anger for the person I married, who made a vow to be faithful to me and who broke that vow.

I also think it's weird that the term "homewrecker" is used for the other woman/man, when the cheating spouse deserves more of the blame for wrecking the family, IMHO.

At any rate, both Arnold and the housekeeper obviously broke their wedding vows. I wonder if the housekeeper and her husband have any other children; yet more victims of this infidelity.

:worship: Watch it. You're making sense. That's frowned upon around these parts.
 
I think you are giving too much control to the "other person".

I think we all agree that all parties need to take some blame but to give a bulk of the anger to a third party seems a bit foolish.

Where have I given the BULK of the anger to the 3rd person? I've said 2-3 times in this thread alone 95% to the spouse 5% to the other person.

How is 5% "the bulk" of the blame??????
 
Where have I given the BULK of the anger to the 3rd person? I've said 2-3 times in this thread alone 95% to the spouse 5% to the other person.

How is 5% "the bulk" of the blame??????

I meant bulk of the control.

I'm sorry.

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I meant bulk of the control.

I'm sorry.

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They don't have the bulk of the control either. But to say they have no control over the affair happening or not is also naive.

Not all black and white. Very very grey.

Look at this situation. You think this woman HAD to sleep with Arnold? She couldn't have said no? Yes, most likely there would be someone else waiting in the wings and taking advantage of that makes Arnold 100% a pig but these woman didn't HAVE to participate either. So on my book, yeah they have some control and get some of the blame. These woman aren't victims, they are willing participants and that is what earns them some of the blame/criticism.
 
They don't have the bulk of the control either. But to say they have no control over the affair happening or not is also naive.

Not all black and white. Very very grey.

Look at this situation. You think this woman HAD to sleep with Arnold? She couldn't have said no? Yes, most likely there would be someone else waiting in the wings and taking advantage of that makes Arnold 100% a pig but these woman didn't HAVE to participate either. So on my book, yeah they have some control and get some of the blame. These woman aren't victims, they are willing participants and that is what earns them some of the blame/criticism.

Yes she could have said no.
 
Politicians and celebs, None of them worth crap, That includes any of the Kennedy's.

Gross generalizations are ridiculous. There are many really great celebs, and I assume politicians, in the world who have great family lives and who are great people. You just don't hear about them because they aren't doing anything to draw attention. We only hear about those who are doing things they shouldn't be doing.
 
Gross generalizations are ridiculous. There are many really great celebs, and I assume politicians, in the world who have great family lives and who are great people. You just don't hear about them because they aren't doing anything to draw attention. We only hear about those who are doing things they shouldn't be doing.

ITA. Except maybe about the Kennedy's.......
 
Hmm.

I guess I'm not surprised.

I figured SOMETHING big happened to blow up their marriage.

Wonder how Arnold's animated Governator series is going to go now?
 
Again, its not about putting less blame on the cheater, its about giving equal blame and criticism on the person knowingly cheating with them. And I agree that as the wife or husband being cheated on, that person's wrath should be predominately on the cheater as they are the one who specifically betrayed them. If my wife cheated on me, I might take a swing at the other guy if I ever ran across him, but 95% of my anger would be against my wife. But as an impartial third party in a situation not involving me or my loved ones, I would equally have no respect for both.

I agree. I think they are equally to blame. Yes, my husband has a responsitility towards me, but that doesn't let some other woman off the hook at all IMO. They would both be responsible.


Yes, that's what I have an issue with. We had a friend whose parents' marriage broke up because her father cheated. This happened when she was an adult. She and her siblings were always referring to "that homewrecking @#$%" or "that @#$% who broke up my parents' marriage," and I really wanted to say "You know, your father was the person who broke up their marriage. She didn't hit him in the head with a club and drag him away kicking and screaming. If anyone deserves to be called a homewrecking @#$%, it's your father."

Actually, I think they both are deserving of that title.


I hate that song "Why don't you stay" by Sugarland :upsidedow

I quit listening to Sugarland after they came out with that song. I have no respect for a song or singer who portrays the person participating in a cheating relationship as being the victim. :sad2:
 
I think he is a disgusting pig. (although I always thought he was full of himself so I didn't like him anyway, but his makes me like him even less.)

She is a beautiful strong woman and she will be ok without him, after she deals with the hurt and humilitation. And I feel sorry for the kids too. He is just a self ibsorbed jerk.
 
CNN story says Arnold has financially supported the child since birth. I imagine her salary was off the charts for a housekeeper. How did he explain the HUGE bump in pay 10 years ago?

Lots of folks (including housekeeper's husband) had to know about this; I'm wondering if her husband took a payoff too. And has Arnold had anything to do with the child?

This is just one messed-up situation, and the awful details will probably continue to leak out for a while.

How did this information first get out now. They said Maria just found out,, so I am assuming someone found out and told Maria-thus the seperation, or divorce.
 
She didn't stand by her man. She left her man, and good for her. I think it's ridiculous that women stand by their husband's sides during these news conferences while they say how "sorry" they are they got caught with their pants down.

:thumbsup2 Exactly, no benefit in being the "Good Wife" unless you are Julianna Margulies


I would leave too:sad2:
 
How did this information first get out now. They said Maria just found out,, so I am assuming someone found out and told Maria-thus the seperation, or divorce.

Apparently, Arnold told Maria a few months ago, and then she moved from their home with their children. They only recently announced the separation, but they've in fact been separated since the beginning of this year.

I can only speculate why he told Maria about the child this year, after keeping it a secret for a decade. The timing seems to coincide with the "retirement" of the housekeeper. Maybe she (the housekeeper) or her husband asked for more money and/or threatened to go public.

From everything we've recently learned about the Governator, I sincerely doubt that his conscience finally got the better of him and he decided to do the right thing. Seems he knew the news was about to come out anyway and he preempted it.
 
They don't have the bulk of the control either. But to say they have no control over the affair happening or not is also naive.

Not all black and white. Very very grey.

Look at this situation. You think this woman HAD to sleep with Arnold? She couldn't have said no? Yes, most likely there would be someone else waiting in the wings and taking advantage of that makes Arnold 100% a pig but these woman didn't HAVE to participate either. So on my book, yeah they have some control and get some of the blame. These woman aren't victims, they are willing participants and that is what earns them some of the blame/criticism.

What if she thought she'd lose her job if she didn't?
 
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