So just why is Disney raising ticket prices so early

Someone has to pay for my gigantic pay raise of 25¢ per hour!

$.25 x 8 hours per day x 250 days per year x 60,000 WDW employees = $30,000,000 + Inflation like we haven't seen in years + increases in medical insurance coverage cost (no wait, that was suppose to go down) sorry no, up 12% + increases in material and supplies cost + increases in independent contractor cost + the value of the dollar has gone so far down, because they continue to print so much money, which has added greatly to inflation ++++. These number are not accurate at all, but I hope you get my point.
 
Ticket increases are one thing, but Disney is taking it to another level.

Daily 1 park ticket

2001 - $48.00
2011 - $85.00

Forget about all the other cost increases they have added. From hotel rooms to food.

5 day park hopper

2001 - $206.00
2011 - $306.00

For me I don't care all that much, we don't go as much as we used to and the value for us just isn't there anymore like it used to be.
 

Ticket increases are one thing, but Disney is taking it to another level.

Daily 1 park ticket

2001 - $48.00
2011 - $85.00

Forget about all the other cost increases they have added. From hotel rooms to food.

5 day park hopper

2001 - $206.00
2011 - $306.00

For me I don't care all that much, we don't go as much as we used to and the value for us just isn't there anymore like it used to be.

Well that's about 6% per year on the one day, and 4% per year on the hopper.

Not bad, inflation is less than that I guess, but WDW offers a lot more entertainment in 2011 than they did in 2001 so you are getting more for your money.

Maybe you don't want more...but still....you are getting it.
 
So people who cannot afford a disney vacation are riff raff? Hmm something wrong here!

Agreed!!! I guess I must fall have fallen in the riff raff category for the last 10 years. I haven't been able to afford to go, yet, I'm a criminal justice student, a volunteer with my fire deparment and I am an EMT on a volunteer ambulance squad. That's right, I get my butt out of bed in the middle of the night when the rest of you are home sleeping to HELP other people and your going to call me riff raff because I haven't been able to afford to go to Disney until now? Maybe you should think about what you say before you say it. Oh, and did I mention I was a Cast Member both at Walt Disney World and at the Disney Store near my hometown. I didn't realize Disney hired riff raff either.
 
Sorry, I don't like to cause an uprise on here, but when you get my blood boiling like that, I have to step in.

There are so many deserving families that can't afford to go to Disney, and because they can't afford it does not make them riff raff. I was fortunete enough to work at a summer camp for under privileged children and it has taught me so much. Luckily I have been blessed to have parents who were able to take my brothers and I to Disney every year growing up. Granted I wish that were the case for the past 10 years, but I'm an adult and have more responsiblities that come first.
 
Ok I know by saying this some people will get upset but come on... Some of the people that are upset about the price increase are the same ones that allways say they need new things in the park. Well those new things cost. With all the new things they are adding in the park they have to pay for it some way.
Adding new areas means more people are needed and that raised thier cost to run the park. Their are alot of things that factor into that cost & the most costly is insurance.
Oh and someone has to pay for Cheshire Figment's raise...
 
I love posts like 'it's a rip-off' and 'Disney are price gougers' (Won't bother naming names) and then you look in the signature and oh! They only stay onsite and go every year.

I stay offsite and go 3-4 year intervals, I consider it good value. Guess these people who can afford to go back must have more money than sense, if they really hated it that much why not use some common sense and go to alternative destinations.
 
Agreed!!! I guess I must fall have fallen in the riff raff category for the last 10 years. I haven't been able to afford to go, yet, I'm a criminal justice student, a volunteer with my fire deparment and I am an EMT on a volunteer ambulance squad. That's right, I get my butt out of bed in the middle of the night when the rest of you are home sleeping to HELP other people and your going to call me riff raff because I haven't been able to afford to go to Disney until now? Maybe you should think about what you say before you say it. Oh, and did I mention I was a Cast Member both at Walt Disney World and at the Disney Store near my hometown. I didn't realize Disney hired riff raff either.
Sorry, I don't like to cause an uprise on here, but when you get my blood boiling like that, I have to step in.

There are so many deserving families that can't afford to go to Disney, and because they can't afford it does not make them riff raff. I was fortunete enough to work at a summer camp for under privileged children and it has taught me so much. Luckily I have been blessed to have parents who were able to take my brothers and I to Disney every year growing up. Granted I wish that were the case for the past 10 years, but I'm an adult and have more responsiblities that come first.

You realize it was a **joke**, right?
 
You realize it was a **joke**, right?

I guess coming from my backround, and the way I was raised; making fun of the less fortunate isn't so funny to me.

And I take it even more to heart because I'm marrying one of those less fortunate. My fiance is 43 years old and has never been to Disney. Not because he choose not to, but because his family could not afford it.
 
I guess coming from my backround, and the way I was raised; making fun of the less fortunate isn't so funny to me.

And I take it even more to heart because I'm marrying one of those less fortunate. My fiance is 43 years old and has never been to Disney. Not because he choose not to, but because his family could not afford it.

I don't think the poster who posted the it was making fun of anyone; I think it was a play on the fact that Disney is out pricing most people and becoming exclusive. Much more tongue in cheek--sarcasm. I think you might be reading a lot more into that than what is there.

How do you even get making fun of someone out of that? I can understand reading quickly and not paying a lot of attention and not realizing it was a joke, but... :confused:
 
A few observations.

As a prior poster pointed out, a low cost vacation used to be going to a relative’s house and jumping from a tire swing into their lake, followed by a cookout of hot dogs and hamburgers. WDW was a place you dreamt about, and if you were lucky enough, your family went once or twice when you were between the ages of 5 and 12. And while you were there, you stayed at the Howard Johnson’s Main Gate, ate crap, got a balloon, and had the time of your life. Now, all of a sudden people raise the roof if they cannot take their annual trip, or better yet, their twice-annual trips. Let’s get some perspective.

A lot of this started when Disney built Value Resorts and made them so big that they now hold more people than the Deluxe Resorts (which used to be the only places to stay). I’m not going to use the term “riff raff”, but the bottom line is that WDW was opened up to a whole bunch of people in income brackets that otherwise couldn’t afford to go. Is this a bad thing? Not in my opinion. But the fact that Disney shut down construction of POP and never completed the project suggests to me that it didn’t think adding more lower priced rooms was a good idea. Toss in the fact that people were getting $129 rooms and free dining, and lo and behold, there was an expectation that WDW was a place that you had to go to every year.

Somewhere along the line, this economic model started to fail Disney. Low priced rooms. Free food. Allowing people to bring in their own food and have picnic meals. Down goes the bottom line. There is now a clear strategic shift to bring WDW back into the upper echelon of entertainment. Prices go up for a reason. Maybe Disney doesn’t want regulars to come back twice a year. These are the people with the most cost saving savvy. They already own the Mickey Ears and t-shirts. It may be painful for you to realize that you are being jilted by your lover, but that is what is happening. Disney would rather have “regulars” come back every three of four years, and fill higher end rooms with people who will spend money, and with people for whom the dollar is weak and a 2 week trip to WDW is an afterthought. If your own economics only allow a trip to WDW every three of four years, you will survive. Generations of Americans did before you. If I had to guess, I’d say that Disney would like nothing more than to plow POP and ASM under and be rid of them. Sorry if that offends you. But it seems that that is the economic model it wants to chase. Others have used the cruise ship analogy. There is Carnival, Disney, Crystal and Seabourn. Disney wants WDW to be Crystal, not Carnival. If that prices you out, Disney has no moral obligation to bring you back into the fold.

That said, Disney has not (yet) plowed under the Values. You can still stay there. Or you can stay off site like the vast majority of people did from 1971-1990. Value (and Moderate) rooms are still within the means of most people who save up for a vacation. And a 6 day pass for around $250? Come on. Get a grip. Price out what 6 days skiing at Vail or Aspen will cost. Yes, Disney wants WDW to be viewed as the “Aspen” of theme parks. Or Deer Valley. High end. Still. WDW is much cheaper. Don’t ski? Price out what a day’s activity (snorkeling, scuba diving, volcano tour, luau, sailing) will cost you in Hawaii. Do 4 or 5 activities in a week and you will spend double what Disney charges for a park pass for a week. Want to take a golf vacation? Add up how much it would cost to play the courses at Grand Cypress right next store to WDW. Play 5 rounds of golf instead of going to 5 days worth of parks and see what you spend.

Yes, I am one of those people who, when the survey comes out, continues to say that WDW is an excellent value and will still say that after the price increase. I’ve been to Hawaii. Been to Aspen. Been to Vail. Golfed at Grand Cypress. And the only place I come back to year after year is WDW. And cost is certainly on of the factors.
 
A few observations.

But the fact that Disney shut down construction of POP and never completed the project suggests to me that it didn’t think adding more lower priced rooms was a good idea.

I think this had more to do with the occurrence of 9/11 than with Disney's economic model failing.
 
I don't think the poster who posted the it was making fun of anyone; I think it was a play on the fact that Disney is out pricing most people and becoming exclusive. Much more tongue in cheek--sarcasm. I think you might be reading a lot more into that than what is there.

How do you even get making fun of someone out of that? I can understand reading quickly and not paying a lot of attention and not realizing it was a joke, but... :confused:

To each their own...I must have read it differently than you, but I found it offensive.
 
I think this had more to do with the occurrence of 9/11 than with Disney's economic model failing.

Yes, it was because of 9/11. I was working at Caribbean Beach when it happened and we were filled in on a lot of what was going on with Pop since we were right next door.
 
I think this had more to do with the occurrence of 9/11 than with Disney's economic model failing.

9/11 was ten years ago. WDW has not added any Value rooms in that time span. And doesn't intend to. But it allowed a Waldorf, a Hilton and a Four Seasons to come on board. Disney will get rent from these tenants and will play host to higher end guests. That tells me something.
 
Really the issue I see with Disney's economic model is that they saw ALL those offsite hotels making money off of all the people they drew to central Florida. And they made an obvious choice to want to bring that revenue inhouse. To do that required a massive capital investment of all those additional resorts and restaurants.

But they have figured out over time that to keep those rooms and restaurants profitable required that they operate near capacity year round, hurricane season or not, cold weather or not, school in session or not. To continue to fill those rooms year round will continue to require that they offer deals in the slower weeks. They see that they cannot cut out the deals without taking some hits on their occupancy level. So if they can't cut the deals, they can raise the baseline rates those discounts are based on. That's precisely what they're doing.

Only time will tell if it is a successful strategy for them. But they will not put up with low occupancy for long. So if people stay away, they will change their stragegy. If people ante up and go anyway, they won't. Simple as that.
 













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