So do you think I should contact Mem. Satis. again?

[RSWA2]

I managed to get ******lly. VERY rare for this to happen, and the doctor immediately asked if I had used a hot tub where there might have been children also using it.

What is the censored word or what is it related to? What can an adult get in a hot tub that has/had kids in it? I never knew that it was an issue...I would think it's more unhealthy for kids than adults? This would make me think twice next time...

 

[Sammie]

What is the censored word or what is it related to? What can an adult get in a hot tub that has/had kids in it? I never knew that it was an issue...I would think it's more unhealthy for kids than adults? This would make me think twice next time...

Google, female Strep infections, basically public hot tubs are a cesspool of germs, there is much more you can catch, I avoid them. Children in swim diapers definitely have no business in them and yes females of all ages could get the same thing.

 

[Stitch_lover_Sith]

They are available in Hedo in Jamaica or Desires in Mexico. Google them. They should not have adult only events in Disney resorts in my opinion.

You know those are great options for resort if you are looking for that type of vacation. People posting about their Disney Vacations tend not to be looking for this type of thing. Now my thought on why the hot tubes should be adult only is a medical reason. Prolonged exposure to hot water for children it a hazard to their health. These kids also don't know about the difference in the hot tube chemicals that make them very susceptible to communal infections.

As an adult who loves Disney and tends to travel with my family I am not looking for someplace to make out but someplace to relax.

To the OP call them again. I mention this issue to the manager on duty every time I check out at this hotel. The only place you can go to get away from the kids in Laniwai and you have to get a $45 day pass or pay for a $100 plus dollar service. It should not be this hard to bliss out in Hawaii.

 

[Sugardimples]

I think they should put up signs that say "You know you are boiling your children, right?"

 

[mjc2003]

I have often thought that the quiet pools, and quiet pool hot tubs should be 18+

AND the only why I say 18+ is because that's what Disney Cruise Line policy is for Adult Only areas....

Personally, I would like to see that rule moved to at least 19... if not 21.... yeah I know

Heck, why not make it 50 so we guarantee there is nobody even moving in the water? The three worst things I've ever seen in a Disney hot tub were:

1) an old man (80ish) getting out of the water to reveal his entire privates were exposed, accidentally of course, but in full view of everybody. He let things continue to "hang free" while sitting on the side of the hot tub. It was a real conversation stopper.

2) a young couple in their mid 20's last November on a freezing night at the BCV quiet pool hot tub basically fornicating as we walked back from the buses.

3) a man at the BCV main pool hot tub who spilled his fruity drink into the hot tub and then yelled at his kids to get his wife to get him another and then used vile language in front of several people when the wife finally showed up..."where the ?&?!? were you?"

I think I'd like to see kids only hot tubs and pools in order to cut down on the childish behavior.

 

[MinnieGirl33]

They are available in Hedo in Jamaica or Desires in Mexico. Google them. They should not have adult only events in Disney resorts in my opinion.

Just because I am in favor of "adults-only" does not mean I am looking for a vacation spot where publicly debaucherous behavior is the norm.

Being in favor of an adults only area is about parents that do not supervise their kids & let them use what is supposed to be a relaxing environment as a playground to say nothing of the inappropriateness of allowing children alone with strangers in a confined space. The children who sit properly while accompanied by an adult are not the issue (although I don't think it ever appropriate for diaper/toddler aged kids).

And then there are the health concerns... for both the kids and the other guests. Member Services should look at their policy (or lack thereof) from this perspective more closely.

And that's my opinion.

 

[keishashadow]

Why do you think the strep infection came from children. Adults can get, and pass, strep also, can't they?

My kids love hot tubs. They get cold in most pools and like sitting with me in hot tubs. I think the key work may be "sit" with me. I also know hot tubs aren't healthy for young kids, especially for long times if the water is too hot. I don't allow them to be playing in a hot tub. I do understand kids are not always welcome and there should be some adult only hot tubs. I'm surprised there aren't some with signs that say this. But then, most people won't pay attention to the signs, will they!

Agree that it'd be hard to pinpoint whether strep germs came from kids or adults in a hot tub. A silent thought runs thru my head before i enter a hot tub, hoping that it's actually hot (not luke warm) and has proper chemicals.

imo kids should only be permitted in a hot tub under direct adult supervision for a myramid of reasons, including the fact that it's difficult for them to 'sit still' as is normally expected in one. However, the onus to enforce restricting kids shouldn't be thrust upon other guests to avoid unpleasantness.

We were recently on the RCCL Independence of the Seas. They did a wonderful job of enforcing the adult only hot tubs.

 

[DVCismyhappyplace]

While I'm definitely in favor of some more "adult only" areas in Disney, I have to say, I don't know if you can pinpoint the infection on children in the hot tub. I NEVER go into a public hot tub of any kind. Quite frankly, the only hot tub I've ever gone in is our own....and the only people who have ever been in that hot tub are me and DH.

We had a BBQ once and some people (kids and adults) jumped in - the next day, we emptied it out, cleaned it and re-adjusted the chemicals.

 

[jennylyn_b]

It's not always an issue of age. Sometime adults can be jerks, too. And until they determine a way to identify jerks and idiots, we are stuck.

Completely agree with this! Glad it was said

 

[RSWA2]

Google, female Strep infections, basically public hot tubs are a cesspool of germs, there is much more you can catch, I avoid them. Children in swim diapers definitely have no business in them and yes females of all ages could get the same thing.

Oh, wow...well

 

[woodleygrrl]

Gag me. My husband and i are DVC members with no children. we have witnessed on more than one occasion toddlers and kids even smaller than that playing in the hot tubs that have on diapers and worse: NO CLOTHES AT ALL!!!!!

Hot tubs are unsafe for children under a certain age and while i cant police all the negligent parents out there, Disney can help by not allowing kids under 18 in them at all.

OP please call member services. please.

Jennifer

 

[tjkraz]

Strictly my two cents...

With regard to Diane's situation, my sense is that the greater failing is Disney's lack of chemically treating the hot tub properly. Those things are a cesspools of bacteria and they need to be cared-for properly. Disney knows what sort of audience they attract--kids...teens...adults, etc.

If I were going to follow-up with Disney about a similar situation, that's the approach I would personally take: emphasizing what appears to be a lack of proper care and maintenance on the hot tub.

As for appropriate age for hot tub use, everything I have read only suggest that infants and toddlers age 5 and under are at risk. I have not come across any reputable health professionals who claim that children age 6 should be banned from hot tubs for medical reasons. Parental supervision is suggested, of course.

As for adults-only facilities at Disney resorts--I have no problem with guests offering those suggestions. If there is enough demand, perhaps they will eventually act. But given Disney's track record and target market (families with young children), I suspect you're in for an uphill battle.

Until / unless Disney creates and enforces adults-only facilities, guests who formulate their own expectations are going to be consistently frustrated. Disney doesn't have rigid policies for hot tub use. They do not have established behavioral standards for the so-called "quiet" pools.

Without guidance from resort management, the individual expecting a serene, relaxing environment simply is not...more right...than the tweens wanting to play "Marco Polo" in the pool.

 

[AmyB2006]

There are adults only sections on Disney Cruise ships, I don't see why one hot tub can't be adults only at a resort. It can be tucked away somewhere where a child isn't as easily to happen upon it.

But on the other hand, just because it's an adults only hot tub, shouldn't mean that you feel free to fonicate in the hot tub. I mean, people still should behave themselves. Some of the above examples are unbelievable and probably would happen with those same people regardless of where they were.

With regards to the OP problem, I would call just to let them know that there might be a problem that needs attention. Sadly, I doubt you were the only one that contracted this from the hot tub, if that's in fact where it came from.

 

[bumbershoot]

Oh you poor thing.


That said, it certainly can't be linked strictly to children. Strep gets everyone.

With regard to Diane's situation, my sense is that the greater failing is Disney's lack of chemically treating the hot tub properly.

Absolutely.

 

[sgtdisney]

Yes, I think I would definately call and let them know. If not because of the children in the hot tub, Disney must not be treating the Hot Tub correctly.

 

[dianeschlicht]

They are available in Hedo in Jamaica or Desires in Mexico. Google them. They should not have adult only events in Disney resorts in my opinion.

I'm talking mostly about Aulani. While it's a Disney resort, it isn't Disney World or Disney Land. I'm not saying no children in the hot tub either. I'm saying have at least ONE Adults only hot tub for those of us who prefer it.

 

[dianeschlicht]

Thanks for all who responded. Just to clear up a few things... I have never before had this type of female strep infection. The strep part of it is the unusual part. It is mostly linked to things like not cleaning yourself properly or being in contact with the pathogen in some other way. Hot tubs and baths are the most common culprit when everything else is normal. The sad thing is that now that I have had this infection, I will never again be able to go into ANY hot tub without running the risk of getting it again. So, my contacting MS again would be mostly to help them understand what the issue CAN be, and why they should actively address the situation.

As for the chemicals....We were in the hot tub one morning when the cast member came to check the chemicals and add more to the water. At the same time, I noticed a LOT of sand in the bottom of the tub, which mostly comes from people not taking care to wash it off if them come from the beach.

The children who were constantly in the hot tub were NOT there sitting quietly, but were using it as a swimming pool. There was a cast member around part of the time to make sure the kids weren't jumping from one level to the other, but that was usually only in the most crowded part of the day. I did indeed see several "tweens" (8-12 range) jumping from one level to the next and using the hot tub like it was Menahune Bridge water play area. I rarely saw adults in the tub....mostly full of kids.

I am indeed going to contact Member Satisfaction again. Thanks Tim for the suggestion about how the hot tub is chemically treated as well. Last time I contacted MS about this, they did agree with me that there should be an adults only hot tub given the location and given the fact that they have such adult only areas on the cruise ships.

To whomever mentioned Lawanai spa....Yes, it was the ONLY hot tub I was able to be in without children, but I paid $500 for the two of us to enjoy it, and I should be able to do a hot tub at a place like Aulani without paying extra for it.

 

[mjc2003]

Disney can help by not allowing kids under 18 in them at all.

OP please call member services. please.

Jennifer

Who would they be helping, you? Because they certainly wouldn't be helping their business.

Here's the reality: Disney won't be excluding kids from anything unless it has to, like a ride for safety reasons. Because as soon as a family is told their kids can't go in a certain pool or hot tub with age appropriate children (over the age of 4-5), then they're in the business of losing customers--and Disney's only agenda is to get people to come back. So as far as I'm concerned, the notion of "adults" only pools and hot tubs at Disney resorts is implausible.

 

[Dean]

Hot tubs are a risk for kids both from design and temp. No child under 12 should be in one that is 104 deg, the usual temp. The safe temp is 102 deg for kids and for toddler's, most consider under 100 degrees. Older models can also be a safety hazard with hair getting caught. Hot tubs in general and an infection risk, strep is not the most common and might or might not be related while pseudomonas folliculitis (little bumps or areas where the jets hit) is fairly definitive.

 

[dianeschlicht]

I did indeed contact them again, and per Tim's suggestion, I addressed it from the standpoint of how often and complete the chemical treatment is. I also attached it to my first request and included a synopsis of the response I got from MS and saying I was pleased with that first response, but wanted them to know "the rest of the story" that was unknown at my first contact.


I'll let you know what they say.