So disgusted, just heard Sean Goldman's Brazilian relatives plan to pursue more

[CapeMayMommy]

...can ya let me know ahead of time (God forbid) so's ah kin make a hasty withdrawal....or close mah account altogether..... [ ]

Your money is insured by Uncle Sam---no need to worry.

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

I have ZERO compassion for those grandparents. Their dd decided she liked the high rich live she gave up in Brazil and didn't want to be a middle class housewife and teacher in NJ. She used to tell her friends here in NJ about how wonderful her life in Brazil was and how much she enjoyed her vacations there. She could have worked out an arrangement with David, she choose to lie and kidnap her son and keep him from hsi father. She and her family allowed no contact, no calls, no mail..NOTHING...they tried to have her new husband adopt him. They led Sean to believe that his father didn't love him and gave him up..it is abuse and vile and disgusting! Their actions on the last day, by parading Sean through that crowd proved what type of people they are and how little concern they had for Sean's best interest.

David is a saint for allowing his ex mil talk to his son. And he has at least 3 times. David will do the right thing by Sean. I am sure visitation with be supervised, adn that his son will never be alone with them or ever step foot in Brazil again.

 

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[m&m's mom]

Yeah but it is sad about his sister. I bet he misses her. Hopefully if/when the "Brazil" family come here they will bring his sister with them

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

Yeah but it is sad about his sister. I bet he misses her. Hopefully if/when the "Brazil" family come here they will bring his sister with them

I have wondered about that too, and that is sad. I don't think I've heard any mention of her at all really, esp as far as the Brazilian family saying anything about separating the two of them.

 

[scrump]

For those who sympathize with the grandparents, I think it is worth pointing out that according to three Brazilian court appointed psychologists, the grandparents and the stepfather were found to be emotionally and psychologically abusing Sean. (Read the translated ruling here: http://bringseanhome.org/Translated Judge Pinto Ruling (June 8) with Introduction.pdf)

Argue however you want that this is motivated by love (or grief over the mother's death), but anyone who subjects a child to this sort of psychological pressure should not be given an easy pass for visitation.

 

[m&m's mom]

Something just occurred to me.
The Maternal Grandmother has said that it is their custom that if the Mom dies, the Grandmother raises the child/ren.
I wonder if the Stepdad is letting her raise his daughter.

 

[moon]

Something just occurred to me.
The Maternal Grandmother has said that it is their custom that if the Mom dies, the Grandmother raises the child/ren.
I wonder if the Stepdad is letting her raise his daughter.

Excellent point! Oh, how I'd love if someone asked them this question!

 

[ZachnElli]

Ya think? He speaks fluent Portuguese and broken English, and he's 10 years old. I think it's all about the "formative years". Therapy will help, but won't be the answer. Sean will need to actually live] in the US for a number of years before he's fully acclimated.

My DH has a friend who moved from Brazil in high school who spoke broken English and Portuguese was his first language and he adjusted very well within a short amount of time. He was not an exchange student. I met him 8 years later and he had no accent, spoke English perfectly. There is a very good chance Sean will adjust quickly and love it here.

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

As far as Sean adjusting to the U.S....it's not like he just moved to a country that's underdeveloped or so different that it's a total culture shock. He can do all the things that 9 year old boys like to do, like play video games! Of course there's going to be adjustments...every child (and adult) who ever moves has some kind of adjustments. My nephew and his family just moved to a village in Indonesia from Brooklyn NY...huge culture shock, but a month later, they're enjoying the adventure.

David Goldman said that Sean wanted to go fishing (in NJ in December )...that's something they used to enjoy together before he was abducted. I bet they have a wonderful summer together.

 

[cheermom1]

I am very glad Sean is home where he belongs -- my aunt and uncle lived in Brazil almost all their lives with their kids and they adjusted very well between here and there ... The grandparents is this case were just trying to hang on to something that was no longer there and should have returned Sean as soon as it happened and MAYBE they would have had a great relationship with the boy being able to visit in both countries but they didn't want him see his father or have him in his life ....so for them to be selfish as they were they are now going to have very limited access to Sean ..they created this mess themselves but not cooperating as they should have...

 

[Wall-E1]

As far as Sean adjusting to the U.S....it's not like he just moved to a country that's underdeveloped or so different that it's a total culture shock. He can do all the things that 9 year old boys like to do, like play video games! Of course there's going to be adjustments...every child (and adult) who ever moves has some kind of adjustments. My nephew and his family just moved to a village in Indonesia from Brooklyn NY...huge culture shock, but a month later, they're enjoying the adventure.

David Goldman said that Sean wanted to go fishing (in NJ in December )...that's something they used to enjoy together before he was abducted. I bet they have a wonderful summer together.

Yes, but I heard that the American father lives in a mud hut and prances around in a loincloth. Furthermore, they went fishing because that is their only source of food. It is a huge culture shock for the poor boy.

 

[scrump]

Something just occurred to me.
The Maternal Grandmother has said that it is their custom that if the Mom dies, the Grandmother raises the child/ren.
I wonder if the Stepdad is letting her raise his daughter.

They had previously stated that they were all living together in one apartment. Both grandparents, Sean, Chiara (Sean's half sis), Sean's stepdad and Sean's Uncle (his deceased mom's brother).

Personally, after having seen some interviews of grandma in her apartment, I find it hard to believe that the stepdad, a prominent and very wealthy attorney, would live in a small apartment with his mother in law and five other people. But that is pure speculation and my guess is that yes, Chiara is living with Grandma. With the amount of time grandma has been spending in the media, however, I would also venture a guess that a nanny is actually raising the little girl.

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

Yes, but I heard that the American father lives in a mud hut and prances around in a loincloth. Furthermore, they went fishing because that is their only source of food. It is a huge culture shock for the poor boy.

 

[sparklynails23]

Exactly. I don't understand people questioning if there was some sordid reason Sean's mother was keeping him from his father...that there MUST be some "reason". Yeah, there was. She wanted to be in Brazil, and she wanted her son with her. Period. She hooked up with a corrupt lawyer (her Brazilian husband) who was well versed in manipulating the Brazilian court system in custody cases.

The Brazilian family suggested that Goldman was somehow cold and uncaring toward his wife. Other than that, I've not seen them come out and object to anything about his character or conduct. I do wonder if they have suggested he is gay behind closed doors. That would explain all the court delays. Note: I would in no way see that as a legitimate reason for keeping him from his son, but Brazil isn't necessarily as progressive as the U.S. when it comes to gay parental rights, although they are sometimes more progressive when it comes to civil unions.

 

[CapeMayMommy]

The Brazilian family suggested that Goldman was somehow cold and uncaring toward his wife. Other than that, I've not seen them come out and object to anything about his character or conduct. I do wonder if they have suggested he is gay behind closed doors. That would explain all the court delays. Note: I would in no way see that as a legitimate reason for keeping him from his son, but Brazil isn't necessarily as progressive as the U.S. when it comes to gay parental rights, although they are sometimes more progressive when it comes to civil unions.

Or a religious issue. But Sean would not be consitered Jewish because his mother isn't. (I assume) Is David Jewish? His name would indicate that he might be.

 

[CapeMayMommy]

Something just occurred to me.
The Maternal Grandmother has said that it is their custom that if the Mom dies, the Grandmother raises the child/ren.
I wonder if the Stepdad is letting her raise his daughter.

It's interesting because my brother was married to a Brazilian woman. She always referred to her step-father as "My Uncle Daddy". I never knew why.

Finally, one day, I found out that when her biological father died, her uncle married her mother. (her father's brother) This was expected! You wouldn't want a strange man to raise your deceased brother's children---if you were a single man, you'd have to marry your sister in law and provide for her.

Her mother, and "uncle Daddy" had been married for many years and seemed happy enough. I, on the other hand, wouldn't have felt comfortable marrying my deceased husband's brother.

In the Brazillian culture, women raise the children and men make sure they are provided for...not vice versa.