Smoking in parks, pools, hallways, in line - yikes!

[BuckNaked]

I'm still trying to understand why it is rude for people to smoke in an area where smoking is permitted by WDW.

 

[miss missy]

someone pass me a cig please

Ok for real... I am a non-smoker now, but was a smoker in 1 trip to WDW. I smoked in the smoking areas... believe me I still know where each one is in each park! There are rude people everywhere, such is life. Next time, get a CM and I am sure they will help you out.

 

[Free4Life11]

It may be allowed, but I find it tacky (and nasty) to be smoking at a pool where there's lots of children around. OP you ought to write a letter to the hotel manager asking why they allow smoking in the pool area when they know there will be lots of children around.

 

[BuckNaked]

It may be allowed, but I find it tacky (and nasty) to be smoking at a pool where there's lots of children around. OP you ought to write a letter to the hotel manager asking why they allow smoking in the pool area when they know there will be lots of children around.

ITA, write a letter to find out why smoking is allowed. But in the meantime, the smokers have every bit as much right to be there as the non-smokers.

 

[Planogirl]

ITA, write a letter to find out why smoking is allowed. But in the meantime, the smokers have every bit as much right to be there as the non-smokers.

I agree. I've heard something about possibly setting up designated smoking areas around the pools too but I'm sure that some people will still complain.

 

[IwasatWDWforamonth]

I totally understand what the op went thru, im highly sensitive to smoke myself,
I do know that most smokers have no idea what they are doing to others in fact they dont even think they smell funny, my dad is one of them after my lung collapsed my dad wasnt supposed to smoke around me, he had a fit each time he went outside to smoke, he eventually moved out .

Some smokers if asked nicely to put it out will others will blow more smoke your way.

Just be glad they dont allow people to burn trash at WDW which is what my moronic neighbors are doing right now, burning garbage is 10000 times worse than cigarette smoke. Id like to be outside swimming but I cant because I cant breath the smoke.

 

[ducklite]

Do you ever walk into a mall, restaurant or parking lot in your home town and people are smoking outside on the side walk , getting into their car or whatever.....does that bother you ?

I'm saying that nicely and not in a nasty way

This was a constant complaint at the company I used to work for. Finally they made it so smoking was allowed outside one entrance only, and quite far back and away from the actual entrance.

Anne

 

[ducklite]

I agree. I've heard something about possibly setting up designated smoking areas around the pools too but I'm sure that some people will still complain.

I really wish they would do this. Have a designated area away from the actual pool deck (thus away from kids) where smoking is permitted, and forbid it anywhere else in the pool area.

I do'nt understand why they would think to deisgnate smoking areas in the parks and not the pools.

Anne

 

[AllyandJack]

I just can't figure out why someone would go out in public emitting a nasty, foul smell. If I stood at the pool and started lighting off stink bombs, would that be OK? It's not against the rules. I guess I'll do it and everyone else can just move.

 

[poohandwendy]

LOL... another smoking debate.


This has less to do with 'smokers' than it has to do with ignorant people. The real question is why are ignorant people that way and how can we make them not be ignorant? The honest answer is that some people just do not care about how they affect others and there isn't anything that can be done to change that fact. Ignorant people do not care about boundaries or rules, so expect more of the same. I guess all you can do is take each situation as they come and either say something to the ignorant person or a CM...or walk away disgusted.

 

[english rose 47]

Okay I am a smoker , like it or not cigarets are not illegal and it is my choice to smoke or not. I agree thatI should smoke in designated areas. What I am seeing in this thread by most non smokersis that smokers shouls be banned from most areas and if they smoke in a designated area that you happen to want to be in they are wrong. How courteous is that? Come on Non smokers be fair why should we not be able to smoke by the pool even if it is a smoking area vs a non smoking area and why if I choose a smoking room am I wrong to smoke in it( smoke from bathroom to another bathroom) or outside it You all talk a lot about consideration but you only expect smokers to be that.I do respectyour rights please respect mine. Come on smokers speak up We are not criminals but this thread is making us out to be !

 

[marlasmom]

Okay I am a smoker , like it or not cigarets are not illegal and it is my choice to smoke or not. I agree thatI should smoke in designated areas. What I am seeing in this thread by most non smokersis that smokers shouls be banned from most areas and if they smoke in a designated area that you happen to want to be in they are wrong. How courteous is that? Come on Non smokers be fair why should we not be able to smoke by the pool even if it is a smoking area vs a non smoking area and why if I choose a smoking room am I wrong to smoke in it( smoke from bathroom to another bathroom) or outside it You all talk a lot about consideration but you only expect smokers to be that.I do respectyour rights please respect mine. Come on smokers speak up We are not criminals but this thread is making us out to be !

WEll said. I want to sit by the pool and have a cigarette. Why can't you move away from me, although I really can't conceive that smoking outside should bother you. When I learned to smoke many many years ago, you could smoke in my college classrooms, in some movie theaters, just about anywhere. Hostesses put out little vases with cigarettes in them on the dinner table, along with matches. Cigarette companies used to give out samples on the street. I never heard a single protest.

I won't smoke in a non-smoking area, but let us smokers have a LITTLE bit of space.

 

[ducklite]

WEll said. I want to sit by the pool and have a cigarette. Why can't you move away from me, although I really can't conceive that smoking outside should bother you.

I can smell smoke outside twenty feet away in dead air. Does that bother me? I'ts not pleasant, but I'm not going to get my panties in a wad over it.

But someone sitting right next to me, or even a couple people down outside smoking, yes, that does bother me, and can aggravate my asthma.

I have no problem with someone who wants to smoke--just please do it in a designated area.

I don't allow smoking in my home. I won't even allow smoking on my lanai. If you want to smoke you are welcome to drag a chair about 20 feet from the hosue and light up. I've even got an ashtray for you. I've only had one guest that didn't "get it" and thought that smoking right outside the door of the screened lanai was far enough away. Of course she won't be invited back...

It's discussions like these that reinforce my believe that Disney needs to get even more proactive about enforcing smoking areas and adding additional segregated smoking/non-smoking areas in places like pools.

Anne

 

[Virgo10]

Okay I am a smoker , like it or not cigarets are not illegal and it is my choice to smoke or not.

Yes I smoke. I feel I try to respect others who do not by smoking in designated areas. I personally have never had someone come up to me at Disney and complain when I was in a designated area.

To some on this board smokers are evil and should be destroyed. You aren't going to change their minds no matter what you say. It is, as they say, open season.

Do I expect to get flamed for saying that. Yes I do. They don't see the hate in their posts and they never will. Eventually they'll move on and hate something or someone else but right now smokers are the focus of their attention.

I guess we all have something though. I personally hate (and I'm not going to sugar coat it with *but it's for their own good*) people who drive under the influence. If you do and cause an accident that kills someone, the death penalty is too good for you.

Just my opinion. Flame away.

 

[MushyMushy]

No, I didn't explain that at all as it's not my place to do so since these areas are not non-smoking. I guess my thing is that as adults, you should know that chain smoking in the child area isn't really a good thing to do. We don't like confrontations at all, so we would never go up to people, as it's easier to just move away. So sure we made the choice to forgo the pool, but we were forced to do so because people were puffing away in very crowded pool areas full of children! There was even someone with an oxygen tank, but I saw her take a look, and immediately leave the area - again, she nor I should have had to do that if people used a bit more sense when partaking in their disgusting habits in the presence of others.

Just to clarify as well - I absolutely don't assume that all smokers are this way, as I'm only talking about the ones that we saw over the past 2 weeks who lit up in undesignated areas.

Tiger

Sounds to me like you need to grow a backbone. You say you're non-confrontational, yet you display an evident hostility towards smokers ("digsusting habits" -- try "addiction"). If somebody sitting near you is causing harm to your child, speak up! Ask them (politely would be best) if they could please move away from the children's area so your child could enjoy the pool, and explain that she's allergic. I'm betting 9 out of 10 smokers would comply. Muttering under your breath about people not following rules does nothing but make you feel superior.

I'm pretty non-confrontational myself, but I'll do anything for my kids. I sure as heck wouldn't keep them away from a swimming pool for an entire week because I'm afraid to speak up for them.

 

[daisyduck123]

I don't allow smoking in my home. I won't even allow smoking on my lanai. If you want to smoke you are welcome to drag a chair about 20 feet from the hosue and light up. I've even got an ashtray for you.
Anne

Wow!! You are nicer than I am to offer one...I don't even have any ashtray in the house.

 

[crz4mm2]

There are rude and insensitive people everywhere. Some are smokers, some are not.
DD and I went to lunch on thurs. We went to a new restaurant. It had a smoking section. We requested NON smoking. We were seating in non smoking.
What was the difference? Not much. We weren't even seperated by a wall. Soon after we started eating, a couple with a child were seated in the 'smoking' section next to us (separated by a short wall). They lit up immediately upon being seated (their business- NOT mine). Smoke came right up over the short wall to DD and I.... sigh.
I didn't say anything. BUT, if we go back to the restaurant again (and we WILL- it was DELICIOUS) I will request seats FAR away from the smoking section.

I could have stood up and asked to be moved, or asked the couple to put out their cigarettes I suppose. But, they were seated in smoking, I was seated in non smoking. Both of our parties were seated in our respective areas. Both of us had requested what we wanted. So did I have the 'right' to ask them to put out their smokes? No.I did not. I guess I could have asked to be moved though.

I used to smoke too. That was back in the day where we were everywhere and no one would have dreamed that non smokers had 'rights' to ask us not to smoke.
I don't like smoking either, won't allow it in my home, really would rather people not smoke around me at all, but I don't begin to tell others they CAN NOT smoke. I do hope that most people read the signs and smoke in designated areas. If there aren't designated areas, then it really isn't their fault. I move in those cases. If it were a case of not being able to go to the pool though, I would politely ask if the smoker could smoke a little farther away

 

[crz4mm2]

sorry dbl post

 

[AllyandJack]

Wow!! You are nicer than I am to offer one...I don't even have any ashtray in the house.

Neither do I. My mother takes a paper cup with some water in it and walks herself into the woods behind the house. The deck is not an option. Nobody forced her to come to the house....in fact, I don't even invite her, she invites herself, so it's her choice.

 

[tmt martins]

i don't think those area are non-smoking, though. and if you missed out on a whole week at the pool because of people smoking, then that's your own fault. did you explain to them that your daughter had breathing problems? most people would gladly put their cigarettes out if you ask nicely.

But that's the entire problem People are normally very rude requesting that a smoker stop smoking . If they were a bit nicer and explained rather then demand your right the results would be a bit different.

I don't ( never did) smoke but DW does and has tried to stop many times and just can't .People use the medical excuse to offened just because they don't like the smoke and it gets old.

Smokers are given rights as well for smoking in desinated areas and thats fine but still not good enough .

Compairing it to herion or crack is no different then drinking a beer so that just rediculous . If you want it bandedlike crack then get the laws changed and instead of being mad at the smokers go to the CM and make them do their job.