SMASH thread!

[kimmar067]

....I would think that she would HAVE to pick some of the new stuff, which gives the storyline some credence - trying new songs, etc....

 

[izzy]

I really liked Smash last year, but not feeling the love so much this Year. The story lines are very disjointed, and I don't like those two new guys. I love Katherine McPhee's voice, but I just don't see her character as playing Marilyn. Marilyn was quite curvy and voluptuous, whereas Karen is bone thin and angular. The other gal ( the blond, I can't remember her character's name) had much more of Marilyn's body type and mannerisms, plus she also has an amazing voice.

 

[BearcatsFan]

Anyone watching tonight? I'm ready to give up on it if it doesn't get better soon.

 

[FergieTCat]

I liked last season better. I understand there were flaws, but I think the writers have swung too far in the other direction. I'm thinking there won't be a Season 3.

Why does Karen's new roommate irritate me? There's just something about her. I also don't think Jimmy and Kyle (are those their names?) are realistic. But of course I'll keep on watching!

I think that the role of Marilyn will go back to Ivy. Wasn't she Tom's original Marilyn? I predict her new show will bomb and close within a week. And then she's free. But ... Karen will workshop Jimmy and Kyle's new musical.

 

[BearcatsFan]

I liked last season better. I understand there were flaws, but I think the writers have swung too far in the other direction. I'm thinking there won't be a Season 3.

Why does Karen's new roommate irritate me? There's just something about her. I also don't think Jimmy and Kyle (are those their names?) are realistic. But of course I'll keep on watching!

I think that the role of Marilyn will go back to Ivy. Wasn't she Tom's original Marilyn? I predict her new show will bomb and close within a week. And then she's free. But ... Karen will workshop Jimmy and Kyle's new musical.

I loved it last season. I was so into it and couldn't wait for it to come back, but I think this year it has just fallen way short of the bar they set.

ITA that Ivy will go back to being Marilyn, because yes, she's who Tom wanted originally. It was Derek that wanted Karen.

I love Jimmy's (?) voice - the song with Karen last night was great. But I think it's a bad sign that neither you or I can even remember if that's his name.

I may half-watch one more week and see where it goes.

 

[cabanafrau]

I think we can stick a fork in it now. In April the network is moving the show to Saturdays. Pretty sure that means the show is done as of this season.

 

[FergieTCat]

I think we can stick a fork in it now. In April the network is moving the show to Saturdays. Pretty sure that means the show is done as of this season.

Oh well!

So sad, because the songs by Marc Shaiman and Scott Wittman are awesome! "They Just Keep Moving the Line" was amazing!!

I'll miss you, strange little show about Broadway with the many insider references.

 

[BearcatsFan]

I think we can stick a fork in it now. In April the network is moving the show to Saturdays. Pretty sure that means the show is done as of this season.

Well crap. Usually moving a show is the kiss of death, so I guess I'll start officially detaching myself now. Oh well, it was good for one season, anyhow.

 

[gometros]

I loved it last season. I was so into it and couldn't wait for it to come back, but I think this year it has just fallen way short of the bar they set.

ITA that Ivy will go back to being Marilyn, because yes, she's who Tom wanted originally. It was Derek that wanted Karen.

I love Jimmy's (?) voice - the song with Karen last night was great. But I think it's a bad sign that neither you or I can even remember if that's his name.

I may half-watch one more week and see where it goes.

Don't know if anybody realizes it, but Jeremy Jordan, who plays Jimmy, was the lead in Newsies on Broadway.

 

[FergieTCat]

Don't know if anybody realizes it, but Jeremy Jordan, who plays Jimmy, was the lead in Newsies on Broadway.

I think he's talented, but he's inconsequential to me. I couldn't even remember if he's Jimmy or Kyle (I'm going with Kyle for the other guy's name).

I've even seen Krysta Rodriguez in "The Addams Family" with Wesley Taylor. I don't remember her being particularly irritating in that show, but on SMASH her character (who's name I seriously can't remember) grates on me. I think it's because she comes across as trying too hard.

I'm a pretty good listener, but I think the new parallel story line is a distraction. Apparently, I'm not even paying close enough attention to remember anyone's name. I now understand that's it there to keep Karen viable (assuming Tom is dumping her shortly), but I guess I can't keep track of two things at once!

 

[ManyMinnie]

I think we can stick a fork in it now. In April the network is moving the show to Saturdays. Pretty sure that means the show is done as of this season.

I've been singing Heart Shaped Wreckage all day.

I love Jeremy Jordan.

 

[ManyMinnie]

I think he's talented, but he's inconsequential to me. I couldn't even remember if he's Jimmy or Kyle (I'm going with Kyle for the other guy's name).

I've even seen Krysta Rodriguez in "The Addams Family" with Wesley Taylor. I don't remember her being particularly irritating in that show, but on SMASH her character (who's name I seriously can't remember) grates on me. I think it's because she comes across as trying too hard.

I'm a pretty good listener, but I think the new parallel story line is a distraction. Apparently, I'm not even paying close enough attention to remember anyone's name. I now understand that's it there to keep Karen viable (assuming Tom is dumping her shortly), but I guess I can't keep track of two things at once!

Jeremy Jordan plays Jimmy.

 

[jenny105]

Don't know if anybody realizes it, but Jeremy Jordan, who plays Jimmy, was the lead in Newsies on Broadway.

This is the reason I like him so much Anyone who portrays Jack Kelly is ok with me.

 

[fairestoneofall]

i'm going to admit that the whole Jimmy/Kyle/Karen storyline is boring and can just go away. i love Katherine McPhee, but she is NOT an actress-she is so bland. they could get rid of those three characters and their storyline and i would not care.

Megan Hilty/Ivy was ALWAYS a better Marilyn. the whole "Karen-as-Marilyn" never made sense to me.

i ADORE Jack Davenport!

 

[Imzadi]

I think he's talented, but he's inconsequential to me. I couldn't even remember if he's Jimmy or Kyle (I'm going with Kyle for the other guy's name).

I was just thinking, "Which one is Jimmy?"

I think the show has gotten progressively worse with each episode. And this week they ALL were so WHINEY!!! Jimmy & Kyle (or whatever their names are,) are sooooo unrealistic. Jimmy acts like a spoiled schoolboy. he keeps complaining that they won't give him their break, but anytime he gets within inches of anyone who has the clout & means to actually help them he's rude, whiny & petulant. They actually gave him his break, got his song out there, and he's STILL rude and whiny.

Then regarding the making of Bombshell, I can't believe this is how people who create a Broadway show actually act like.

And Karen, she has a chance to be in a Broadway show, and she gives it up to do some small showcase with Mr. Whiney Petulant. REALLY???? And why is she helping someone else's Broadway career when her own isn't really established yet and she needs to concentrate on her own?

I find it all so implausible that ALL these people actually would act this way if this was real life.

The writers can't even write THIS show to be a hit. Do they even know what it's like to have written a Broadway show that's a hit?

And as for actor, Jeremy Jordan, they show commercials of him in real life here, promoting some charity thing about getting music back into schools post Hurricane Sandy. He is so warm & personable and cute in the commercial. Where is THAT guy in Smash? It almost seems like his twin brother did the commercial instead because he isn't bringing any of that commercial guy to the screen, even when he & Karen are supposed to be falling for each other.

 

[FergieTCat]

I was just thinking, "Which one is Jimmy?"

I think the show has gotten progressively worse with each episode. And this week they ALL were so WHINEY!!! Jimmy & Kyle (or whatever their names are,) are sooooo unrealistic. Jimmy acts like a spoiled schoolboy. he keeps complaining that they won't give him their break, but anytime he gets within inches of anyone who has the clout & means to actually help them he's rude, whiny & petulant. They actually gave him his break, got his song out there, and he's STILL rude and whiny.

Then regarding the making of Bombshell, I can't believe this is how people who create a Broadway show actually act like.

And Karen, she has a chance to be in a Broadway show, and she gives it up to do some small showcase with Mr. Whiney Petulant. REALLY???? And why is she helping someone else's Broadway career when her own isn't really established yet and she needs to concentrate on her own?

I find it all so implausible that ALL these people actually would act this way if this was real life.

The writers can't even write THIS show to be a hit. Do they even know what it's like to have written a Broadway show that's a hit?

And as for actor, Jeremy Jordan, they show commercials of him in real life here, promoting some charity thing about getting music back into schools post Hurricane Sandy. He is so warm & personable and cute in the commercial. Where is THAT guy in Smash? It almost seems like his twin brother did the commercial instead because he isn't bringing any of that commercial guy to the screen, even when he & Karen are supposed to be falling for each other.

Yes, exactly!

I have no idea of what it would take to get a show to Broadway, but I'm fairly sure this isn't it!!

I did see that commerical with Jeremy Jordan, and he does look so much younger. I guess whining ages you (must remember that for myself!!)

I don't understand the disconnect. The show had a strong production team familiar with the politics of Broadway. Maybe the politics are so boring they had to make things up? If nothing else, I still find Eileen and Jerry fascinating. And of course Jack Davenport can do no wrong.

 

[RadioNate]

I'm with everyone else. I don't know what happened this season. I liked last year and I know it didn't perform great so they 'retooled' the show, hired a different show runner...it is worse. Last season Bombshell was the central character. You cared about the show.

Here? Jennifer Hudson? What was the point? Shawn Hayes, again point? I don't hate Jimmy and Kyle because I knew they had to move away from Bombshell but for a show about going to Broadway...Bombshell isn't even there yet!

I like soapy dramas, I still watch the new 90210 (which is better than this) this show had Nashville (set on Broadway and got on air first) potential and it is painful to watch.

I'll DVR it and I'll likely watch but only because there isn't much on right now.

 

[FergieTCat]

I'm with everyone else. I don't know what happened this season. I liked last year and I know it didn't perform great so they 'retooled' the show, hired a different show runner...it is worse. Last season Bombshell was the central character. You cared about the show.

Here? Jennifer Hudson? What was the point? Shawn Hayes, again point? I don't hate Jimmy and Kyle because I knew they had to move away from Bombshell but for a show about going to Broadway...Bombshell isn't even there yet!

I like soapy dramas, I still watch the new 90210 (which is better than this) this show had Nashville (set on Broadway and got on air first) potential and it is painful to watch.

I'll DVR it and I'll likely watch but only because there isn't much on right now.

I think they are overthinking the storyline.

Ivy is no longer in Bombshell -- what can we do to keep her character relevant? We will invent (yet another) Broadway show that she will appear in. [She could have stayed on as Derek's girlfriend/muse/advisor on all things Broadway]

Dev is no longer in the show -- what can we do with Karen? We will invent a roommate! [They could have said she living alone and subletting from her cousin, which is how she could afford to live alone in Manhattan.] [Or, as they did on "Friends", just put her in a huge apartment and never mention rent.]

Jimmy and Kyle -- Show #3! [Why?]

We'll just assume that Jennifer Hudson or her agent knew someone who wrote her in. There was absolutely no reason for her to appear on the show. She did nothing to forward the story.

It's frustrating, but I like the musical numbers!

 

[jodifla]

I think they are overthinking the storyline.

Ivy is no longer in Bombshell -- what can we do to keep her character relevant? We will invent (yet another) Broadway show that she will appear in. [She could have stayed on as Derek's girlfriend/muse/advisor on all things Broadway]

Dev is no longer in the show -- what can we do with Karen? We will invent a roommate! [They could have said she living alone and subletting from her cousin, which is how she could afford to live alone in Manhattan.] [Or, as they did on "Friends", just put her in a huge apartment and never mention rent.]

Jimmy and Kyle -- Show #3! [Why?]

We'll just assume that Jennifer Hudson or her agent knew someone who wrote her in. There was absolutely no reason for her to appear on the show. She did nothing to forward the story.

It's frustrating, but I like the musical numbers!

They brought in young performers to try and bring in a young audience, like Glee fans.

And those of us who've seen spoilers know Ivy isn't done yet with Bombshell.

Re: the Friends apt., I always though they said it was Monica's grandmother's place.

 

[kimmar067]

I think we can stick a fork in it now. In April the network is moving the show to Saturdays. Pretty sure that means the show is done as of this season.

....I think you're probably right...