Smart family isnt right
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CathyCanada
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I saw a decorative jar with a cork tightly sealing it shut, with the words "Juicy Gossip" on the jar.
JasonLyons
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how come post I love get deleted, and this thread that I want to go away, wont go
Prescription for a grieving family
1) You may cry between the hours of 8 - 10 p.m. If you cry too much, you are a sissy weirdo, cry too little, your an insensitive
*****. Don't cry in front of a camera, but if someone gets a shot of you by accident, that's okay.
2) You may talk to the press exactly once monthly. Any more, you are seeking attention (= weirdo). Any less, you are being deceiving and obviously trying to hide something.
3) Should your child be returned home, do not respond with too much elation, you'll be perceived as weird. Too little emotion and you set the whole thing up.
4) Activism - should you take up a cause during your child's absence, I have no advice. Continue that activism and your priorities aren't straight. Drop them and you abandon those who aren't as lucky as you have been.
5) Abductees - should you feel gross and slimy when you return home and someone offers to give you a haircut, resist. Although it may be of comfort to have a different look than you had when accompanied by psychopaths, people will view this as odd (kind of like when rape victims take showers, does that mean they were odd too?)
6) Abductees - try not to act happy to be home. Any pictures taken of you smiling will result in the perception that you have rebounded too quickly. Try not to act too unhappy either, you'll look like you don't want to be home.
All joking aside, none of us know how to react properly in this situation unless it has happened to you. Speculating on how the family has reacted is irresponsible.
Maybe the family is a little off, or maybe they are right on. Maybe she was brainwashed, maybe not...I dunno, but I certainly think that this gal has a lot of healing to do. God forbid she actually access a computer a year from now, perhaps looking to get away from all this and go to Disney
, and gets to see everyone evaluating her behavior, how she looked too happy or too sad, made too many appearances or too little, commenting on whether or not she was pregnant, whether it was right to get a haircut, smile in a photo or if her dad cried too little or too often for her...
She will probably never read this, but I am saying a silent prayer that she can heal not only from whatever was done to her by those two people, but by society as well.
1) You may cry between the hours of 8 - 10 p.m. If you cry too much, you are a sissy weirdo, cry too little, your an insensitive
*****. Don't cry in front of a camera, but if someone gets a shot of you by accident, that's okay.
2) You may talk to the press exactly once monthly. Any more, you are seeking attention (= weirdo). Any less, you are being deceiving and obviously trying to hide something.
3) Should your child be returned home, do not respond with too much elation, you'll be perceived as weird. Too little emotion and you set the whole thing up.
4) Activism - should you take up a cause during your child's absence, I have no advice. Continue that activism and your priorities aren't straight. Drop them and you abandon those who aren't as lucky as you have been.
5) Abductees - should you feel gross and slimy when you return home and someone offers to give you a haircut, resist. Although it may be of comfort to have a different look than you had when accompanied by psychopaths, people will view this as odd (kind of like when rape victims take showers, does that mean they were odd too?)
6) Abductees - try not to act happy to be home. Any pictures taken of you smiling will result in the perception that you have rebounded too quickly. Try not to act too unhappy either, you'll look like you don't want to be home.
All joking aside, none of us know how to react properly in this situation unless it has happened to you. Speculating on how the family has reacted is irresponsible.
Maybe the family is a little off, or maybe they are right on. Maybe she was brainwashed, maybe not...I dunno, but I certainly think that this gal has a lot of healing to do. God forbid she actually access a computer a year from now, perhaps looking to get away from all this and go to Disney
, and gets to see everyone evaluating her behavior, how she looked too happy or too sad, made too many appearances or too little, commenting on whether or not she was pregnant, whether it was right to get a haircut, smile in a photo or if her dad cried too little or too often for her...She will probably never read this, but I am saying a silent prayer that she can heal not only from whatever was done to her by those two people, but by society as well.
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higgin704,
What an incredible post!
Since it is at the bottom of page 11 and worth repeating:
Prescription for a grieving family
1) You may cry between the hours of 8 - 10 p.m. If you cry too much, you are a sissy weirdo, cry too little, your an insensitive
*****. Don't cry in front of a camera, but if someone gets a shot of you by accident, that's okay.
2) You may talk to the press exactly once monthly. Any more, you are seeking attention (= weirdo). Any less, you are being deceiving and obviously trying to hide something.
3) Should your child be returned home, do not respond with too much elation, you'll be perceived as weird. Too little emotion and you set the whole thing up.
4) Activism - should you take up a cause during your child's absence, I have no advice. Continue that activism and your priorities aren't straight. Drop them and you abandon those who aren't as lucky as you have been.
5) Abductees - should you feel gross and slimy when you return home and someone offers to give you a haircut, resist. Although it may be of comfort to have a different look than you had when accompanied by psychopaths, people will view this as odd (kind of like when rape victims take showers, does that mean they were odd too?)
6) Abductees - try not to act happy to be home. Any pictures taken of you smiling will result in the perception that you have rebounded too quickly. Try not to act too unhappy either, you'll look like you don't want to be home.
All joking aside, none of us know how to react properly in this situation unless it has happened to you. Speculating on how the family has reacted is irresponsible.
Maybe the family is a little off, or maybe they are right on. Maybe she was brainwashed, maybe not...I dunno, but I certainly think that this gal has a lot of healing to do. God forbid she actually access a computer a year from now, perhaps looking to get away from all this and go to Disney , and gets to see everyone evaluating her behavior, how she looked too happy or too sad, made too many appearances or too little, commenting on whether or not she was pregnant, whether it was right to get a haircut, smile in a photo or if her dad cried too little or too often for her...
She will probably never read this, but I am saying a silent prayer that she can heal not only from whatever was done to her by those two people, but by society as well.
What an incredible post!
Since it is at the bottom of page 11 and worth repeating:
Prescription for a grieving family
1) You may cry between the hours of 8 - 10 p.m. If you cry too much, you are a sissy weirdo, cry too little, your an insensitive
*****. Don't cry in front of a camera, but if someone gets a shot of you by accident, that's okay.
2) You may talk to the press exactly once monthly. Any more, you are seeking attention (= weirdo). Any less, you are being deceiving and obviously trying to hide something.
3) Should your child be returned home, do not respond with too much elation, you'll be perceived as weird. Too little emotion and you set the whole thing up.
4) Activism - should you take up a cause during your child's absence, I have no advice. Continue that activism and your priorities aren't straight. Drop them and you abandon those who aren't as lucky as you have been.
5) Abductees - should you feel gross and slimy when you return home and someone offers to give you a haircut, resist. Although it may be of comfort to have a different look than you had when accompanied by psychopaths, people will view this as odd (kind of like when rape victims take showers, does that mean they were odd too?)
6) Abductees - try not to act happy to be home. Any pictures taken of you smiling will result in the perception that you have rebounded too quickly. Try not to act too unhappy either, you'll look like you don't want to be home.
All joking aside, none of us know how to react properly in this situation unless it has happened to you. Speculating on how the family has reacted is irresponsible.
Maybe the family is a little off, or maybe they are right on. Maybe she was brainwashed, maybe not...I dunno, but I certainly think that this gal has a lot of healing to do. God forbid she actually access a computer a year from now, perhaps looking to get away from all this and go to Disney , and gets to see everyone evaluating her behavior, how she looked too happy or too sad, made too many appearances or too little, commenting on whether or not she was pregnant, whether it was right to get a haircut, smile in a photo or if her dad cried too little or too often for her...
She will probably never read this, but I am saying a silent prayer that she can heal not only from whatever was done to her by those two people, but by society as well.
J
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Excellent post higgin704. I asked the OP way back on page 1 what he thought the right way to behave was, since he claims to know the Smart family isn't right. Unless he has had a child abducted and kidnapped for 9 months, he doesn't have a clue as to what he is talking about. Guess that's why he just posts nonsence and dosen't bother to respond.
This is not directed at anyone personally here, but someone once said to me that, Gossip is entertainment for those with no lives of their own.
Thank you Brenda, for repeating that great post.
And to the rest of you with compassion and common sense.
I think those that believe Mr. Smart is involved is basing it on the fact that he doesn't shed tears when the camera is on, at least after reading thru all this that is the only thing I can come up with. Have you ever been so devasted by something that you sobbed uncontrollable in private for hours and then had no more tears to shed? or maybe not everyone in the world reacts as some of you do? If my child was missing because I would look guilty as hell, why? Very very rarely do I shed tears when I am upset. I was brought up to not cry, we were taught crying was bad. Maybe Mr Smart was raised that way. Somethings become a habit over the years.
I only fault the Smarts for bringing the types of people into their home around their children but I think maybe they are the type of family that looks for the good in everyone. I don't and never will, maybe because my father was a homicide detective. I have seen too much thru the yrs and know what strangers can do. I think the Smarts are too trusting for their own good and are now paying a high price for that.
When the media cant find real dirt on someone they do what they do best, throw any filth out there they can think of.
I only fault the Smarts for bringing the types of people into their home around their children but I think maybe they are the type of family that looks for the good in everyone. I don't and never will, maybe because my father was a homicide detective. I have seen too much thru the yrs and know what strangers can do. I think the Smarts are too trusting for their own good and are now paying a high price for that.
When the media cant find real dirt on someone they do what they do best, throw any filth out there they can think of.
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Since I was the one who used the word repugnant in reference to the pregnancy rumor, I will respond (although others such as aahmom, willyj, and buckalew already have very eloquently).
First, I find the rumour repugnant because I do not see it as a possibility as others might. Yes, I do see a possibility of a wealthy father sending his teen daughter off to have a baby so no one will know, BUT not in this manner. For Mr. Smart to have set this up he would have 1) had to have his younger daughter lie about seeing the abduction, or 2) traumatized his younger daughter to have the abduction look real. Sorry but I don't see this happening. Then he would have had to further that first lie with the even bigger one of calling the police, setting up a huge search, becoming involved with Missing and exploited children center etc. All the while being questioned repeatedly by the police about the abduction. And even if he was able to do all this, now when the "abductor" is captured, he would need to hope that his "part" in it wasn't given away. Sorry, but I doubt that you could pay two people enough to go to jail for kidnapping while you stay free.
And as for the "blame the victim" mentality. Sorry but Elizabeth wasn't the only victim here...the entire Smart family were victims. Saying that the father did this so Elizabeth could have a baby in secret, is still blaming the victim...only in this case Mr. Smart.
First, I find the rumour repugnant because I do not see it as a possibility as others might. Yes, I do see a possibility of a wealthy father sending his teen daughter off to have a baby so no one will know, BUT not in this manner. For Mr. Smart to have set this up he would have 1) had to have his younger daughter lie about seeing the abduction, or 2) traumatized his younger daughter to have the abduction look real. Sorry but I don't see this happening. Then he would have had to further that first lie with the even bigger one of calling the police, setting up a huge search, becoming involved with Missing and exploited children center etc. All the while being questioned repeatedly by the police about the abduction. And even if he was able to do all this, now when the "abductor" is captured, he would need to hope that his "part" in it wasn't given away. Sorry, but I doubt that you could pay two people enough to go to jail for kidnapping while you stay free.
And as for the "blame the victim" mentality. Sorry but Elizabeth wasn't the only victim here...the entire Smart family were victims. Saying that the father did this so Elizabeth could have a baby in secret, is still blaming the victim...only in this case Mr. Smart.
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Mr. Smart was on America's Most Wanted Saturday night. I don't know anything about yesterday because I was at WDW.
I will once again state, I am so thankful Elizabeth is alive. I do not blame her, the true victim, for anything. There seems to be more with this family. I am allowed to believe that without being told how wrong I am. Some of these feelings I have had since the beginning of her disappearance. Believe what you want, I'll believe what I want. I'm not saying you are wrong and I am right. These are just my feelings. With the Devil running rampant on this earth today there is nothing that I find unbelievable.
Oh yeah here's some fluff and some PD.
Edited to add: Sorry Jason, I really don't mean to keep this thing going, but I think you understand.
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Do like me...understand that there is no freakin devil and then you won't be so quick to see him everywhere!
Really...I can't believe how cynical people are. There has been no reason to think anything other than what has been reported to have happened - a young girl was kidnapped by some cult-leader-wannabe, and she has been found. I don't understand how someone's lack of tears or their passion about getting help for other kidnapped children can be considered suspicious.
Yes, Elizabeth may not be as happy as they are trying to make it sound. She probably is very traumatized and will have lots of ups and downs. But if she were my daughter, I would be lying through my teeth to the media saying "yes, she's fine" so that I could protect her privacy. Do we really need to see evidence of her having a breakdown? Is that what would make you people believe the story? Do you need to see her father breakdown also so that you believe him? Maybe, just maybe, he is trying to be strong, not letting Elizabeth see him have a melt down. The last thing Elizabeth needs is to SEE how badly her kidnapping affected those she loves. I'm sure she feels enough guilt without seeing her family so distraught.
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