Sixth Grade Camp - required?

I have never heard of a camp during the school year!!! My dd went on a 4 day trip to Savannah with the kids that are in Challenge near the end of the school year (but it was for less than 30 kids.. I would not exactly call it Camp though. They have
4-H camp after school gets out.
We had the option of doing fundraising which cut the price in half with what we raised.

Are these small schools? I just can not imagine sending hundreds and hundreds of kids on a camp during the school year.Our middle school here has an enrollment of 1,500 kids and over 500 of those are 6th graders.
 
Are these small schools? I just can not imagine sending hundreds and hundreds of kids on a camp during the school year.Our middle school here has an enrollment of 1,500 kids and over 500 of those are 6th graders.
Here, 6th grade is still part of elementary school, so there are only 100 or so and they all go at the same time. (we have way more elementary schools than middle schools).
 
I have lived in 9 school districts in 6 states and this is the first I have heard of overnight camps for school.
 
I went to 6th grade science camp during the schoolyear. It was not required but my mother thought since I didn't go outside much that it would be a good experience. I did have a good time, and did learn some things about science and it was a good time.
 

The schools here do the camp in 5th grade. The kids really look forward to it, it's a rite of passage for them. It's an extension of their science curriculum and a great bonding experience.
 
I have lived in 9 school districts in 6 states and this is the first I have heard of overnight camps for school.

Most of the schools around here have some kind of camp experience for kids around 6th grade. Some are just day camps but many are overnight.
 
our middle school goes to "Nature's Classroom" for one week, Mon-Fri in the 6th grade. It does cost around $300 but there are ample opportunities for fundraising and they get parents and local businesses to sponsor kids as well. Our Middle School has over 1000 kids. 350 of which are 6th graders.

It is a fantastic bonding experience. The activities are very cool. and they have a lot of fun. There is no phones/electronics of any kind. They are very back to nature, they even weigh the wasted food at every meal and by the end of the week. There is a tiny amount wasted. A great lesson for every kid.

My concern for the OP is the lack of fundraising. We come from a very economically diverse area and more than half the kids couldn't afford the cost without programs.

also, if kids don't go on the trip. There are usually around 10-20 kids, they all have classes together, but they focus on the same ecology and conservation topics they are learning at NC. Usually the kids who stay behind are on disciplinary action.
 
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If this is a public school, I think it's ridiculous. If people want to send their kids to camp, they can do so. They don't need to spend school time on it.


There are a million things that are good for kids--where they can learn all sorts of new things. That doesn't mean that they are all something that should happen in school.

:thumbsup2 I totally agree- I would be up at the school board pitching a fit if they wanted to send my kid to a "camp" for a week and they wanted me to pay for it!! You want all the kids to go then the school can pay for it - and even then my kid would NOT be attending!

I can't comment on the OP's camp, but I can tell you about my school district's camp. In seventh grade each team goes to camp (about 45 mins. from school) for one week, M-F. No parents go along. Only the teachers on that team, high school senior counselors (that have gone through a strict application and interview process), and other staff from within the district. The day is filled, starting early with a run (optional) around 6:30, followed by breakfast, three classes, lunch, structured time (volleyball, frisbee golf, hike, etc.), three more classes, dinner, evening structured time, bed. Classes consist of stream study, geology, bird study, ropes course, etc. Students' schedules rotate each day so they have different classes on different days.

I think it is a great experience for the students. Many new friendships form throughout the week. I can't wait to send my kids when they are older.

Wow- sounds more like juvenile detention than a camp for kids :rotfl2: --no thanks- I would opt out of that in a heartbeat. My daughter starts 6th grade next year and she doesn't even like to sleep at friends houses for a night nevermind away for a week!
 
Here in California the kids have "camp" during 4th grade for 3 days. Then another for 5 days in 6th grade. And yes parents are asked to pay for it. ;) There is some "help" for those who need it from the PTA.

My 2 boys have life threatening food allergies. I was not comfortable with them attending...without DH or myself. Which the camp would not allow! So instead, I offered the boys a "mom camp" for the week. I just kept the boys home... :sick: sick... then we did what ever we wanted. ;)
 
How bizarre! Never heard of this either. Our school has no mandatory overnight trips. Sometimes teachers escort trips, but those are completely optional. The sports teams go to camp together, or the band goes on a trip (again optional, although for sports not going may affect your playing time.) To say you have to pay for a week's trip is with your classmates is wrong, IMO.

I have taken girl scouts camping, and even in 6th grade some kids couldn't handle being away from home.
 
:thumbsup2 I totally agree- I would be up at the school board pitching a fit if they wanted to send my kid to a "camp" for a week and they wanted me to pay for it!! You want all the kids to go then the school can pay for it - and even then my kid would NOT be attending!


Wow you would pitch a fit to the school board and NOT even send your kid to the camp!! Glad your not in my district. There always seems to be one or two parents who would like to ruin it for the majority.


We have an overnight camp in 4th grade and then 3 nights in 5th grade. My 4th grader is beyond excited to go to the camps.
 
Our school has a "camp" style trip in 6th grade. It's directly tied into the curriculum - particularly science. In 7th grade, they go to Boston, in 8th grade to Washington, D.C. Parents are asked to pay, but the school district will pick up the tab for any kids whose families can't afford it.

My kids go to sleepaway camp for the summer for 8 weeks, so this 4 day trip is nothing to us as far as them being away from home. Parents are not allowed to go (which I'm glad, I can't stand helicopter parents, and I feel they end up ruining the trip for all the kids). Seniors who go through a special application process and the core teachers and guidance counselor from the 6th grade attend.

Both of my sons attended and absolutely loved it. It's a great bonding experience for the class and it is talked about until well after high school (my oldest is 21 and he still talks about it with his friends). My daughter will be attending this year.

Unless there is a serious safety concern or a child really can't handle being without their parents (I can't imagine too many 6th graders who couldn't handle it), I can't imagine keeping a child home from this trip. Most schools offer financial assistance and the idea of having a child miss out on a shared learning experience with their peers is kind of silly.

These trips make textbooks come alive. They give students and teachers an opportunity to use real tools in their learning. And those learning experiences come back into the real classroom when the kids return home - projects tied to experiments started on the trip, photo journals and presentations based on photos taken during the trip, soil samples and other experiments brought back to the classroom. I always feel awful for those 2 or 3 kids whose parents can't let go of their kids for a few days, those kids just miss out on so much. I can't imagine how awful those kids feel when all their classmates come back excitedly talking about all they did and saw. Just my honest opinion.
 
My dd was in 6th grade last year and they went to an ecology camp for 4 nights. We didn't have to pay a thing. She said it was the best time she ever had
 
We have an overnight camp in 4th grade and then 3 nights in 5th grade. My 4th grader is beyond excited to go to the camps.

I just floated this idea by my fourth graders and the response I got was more like :scared1:

I agree with the PP who said the schedule sounds more like detention. As far as I know we don't have any such programs in our district. Thank God. I am not handing my kids over to the school for a whole WEEK. No way. :mad:
 
These trips make textbooks come alive. They give students and teachers an opportunity to use real tools in their learning. And those learning experiences come back into the real classroom when the kids return home - projects tied to experiments started on the trip, photo journals and presentations based on photos taken during the trip, soil samples and other experiments brought back to the classroom.

Why can't these things be done on a series of day long field trips? I am all for getting kids out of the classroom to learn in different ways. But I see no reason why the kids need to sleep there and spend every waking moment with their classmates with NO way of contacting their parents.

What if you are a shy kid with few friends or are getting bullied? Can you imagine what a week of hell being stuck with your classmates for days on end would be?? Where are all these kids sleeping? How are they cleaning up at the end of the day while maintaining some privacy?
 
Our school does Outdoor Lab in 6th grade. They leave on a Monday morning and come home on Friday afternoon. They do have grants available if needed and I know when my DD went 2 years ago they did a fundraiser. My DS is going this year. I am not sure if they are doing a fundraiser or not. I didn't want to mess with a fundraiser anyway. Easier to just pay it for me. That is one of the highlights of 6th grade.
 
Why can't these things be done on a series of day long field trips? I am all for getting kids out of the classroom to learn in different ways. But I see no reason why the kids need to sleep there and spend every waking moment with their classmates with NO way of contacting their parents.

What if you are a shy kid with few friends or are getting bullied? Can you imagine what a week of hell being stuck with your classmates for days on end would be?? Where are all these kids sleeping? How are they cleaning up at the end of the day while maintaining some privacy?

I see this all very differently. My children go to sleepaway camp every summer for 8 weeks. They learn independence, sharing, helping the other person, self-reliace, grow self-esteem and much more. From the time they are 8 years old, they go on a series of skill-building trips, learing to canoe, build fires, cook their own food, carry their supplies, etc. My oldest, just completed his 19-day wilderness trip to Canada. My youngest (10) completed her first 5-day canoe trip, carrying all her own gear and sleeping under the stars.The kids use no electronics for the entire summer: no cell phones, no computers, nothing.

My kids look forward to this all year long. This was our middle son's last summer (he aged out). He cried when he left, this place is so special to him. It most certainly is not "detention".

I think parents completely underestimate how incredibly independent their children are and how they can thrive in different situations. And, with all due respect, I think most people who have problems with this have problems with "letting go", which to me, is exactly what Middle School is all about, allowing our children to get out, a little bit at at time in safe, supervised situations. I personally think all this hovering our generation of parents is doing is so harmful to the kids - they go off to college and the real world completely unprepared for being independent becaue their parents do everything, can't stay out of touch for more than a few hours, etc.

As for school trips - we've been through them with our two oldest and will start with our youngest this year. In our situation, there are eight kids in each cabin, along with two high school seniors - each child gets to pick who they're with, and are guaranteed to be with their first pick. There are senior high school students along - most of whom the younger kids know because they're their older siblings and neighbors. In addition, there are teachers and guidance counselors along as well.

The shared experience is something that can't be replicated on simple day trips.

This is one of those topics where people can talk and talk and, chances are, no one is going to change anyone's mind. I use my experiences with my three children who have traveled away from me since they were each 8 years old and have had nothing but positive experiences. I believe my job as their mother is to give them every opportunity to see the world, have shared experiences with their peers and learn they can do just fine without mom hovering over every aspect of their lives, including bedtime.
 
Why can't these things be done on a series of day long field trips? I am all for getting kids out of the classroom to learn in different ways. But I see no reason why the kids need to sleep there and spend every waking moment with their classmates with NO way of contacting their parents.

What if you are a shy kid with few friends or are getting bullied? Can you imagine what a week of hell being stuck with your classmates for days on end would be?? Where are all these kids sleeping? How are they cleaning up at the end of the day while maintaining some privacy?

I'm sorry, I didn't answer your last question...that's kind of weird to me. They go to the bathroom like normal people. What privacy? Taking showers, brushing their teeth? They go in the bathroom and do it. Our elementary school has a pool, our kids have been undressing and showering around each other since 1st grade (the undressing in cubbies), but still. They've helped each other with zippers and buttons and shoelaces. I'm just not sure what you're implying.

See, I find questions like these to be very bizarre. I just don't get where they're coming from. And, most importantly, all parent informational meetings go over all of this. Teachers and school administrators are not too keen on things going wrong on their trips.

Anyway - I have said enough. This new wave of controlled parenting is something that grates on my nerves - because I have seen the end result with my oldest son's college friends, who can't function, whose mothers call them obsessively, who can't make simple decisions, who can't do their laundry, don't know how to pay bills, understand how to read a map, etc.

I came on the DIS to get opinions on LG washers and ended up being sidetracked into this thread. I don't want to hurt people's feelings, I'm just speaking from my own experiences. Money is one thing - a family should never have to choose between a mortgage payment and a school trip and the school should absolutely have to pay if it's directly tied to the curriculum. But, to keep a child home because you won't be able to have total control is, in my very honest opinion, selfish.
 
I see this all very differently. My children go to sleepaway camp every summer for 8 weeks.

Which is utterly horrifying to me. I cannot imagine sending my minor children away for such an extended period of time. To me that is as foreign of a concept sending my kids off to boarding school. I will never understand it.
 














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