Sister Wives, anyone???

[tlbwriter]

But it's still up to them to make the change that will get them out of it. And if they're comfortable in their ruts even though they're unhappy, they're still getting something out of it whether it's comfort, security, money, status, whatever.

I'm just saying you can't *assume* she's happy or even comfortable in her marriage just because she's still married. She may be comfortable, or she may be too afraid to get out (not necessarily afraid of BK, but afraid of living on her own, money issues, losing the safety net of the other wives, maybe she has religious exceptions to divorce, etc.).

 

[wdwmom0f3]

I'm just saying you can't *assume* she's happy or even comfortable in her marriage just because she's still married. She may be comfortable, or she may be too afraid to get out (not necessarily afraid of BK, but afraid of living on her own, money issues, losing the safety net of the other wives, maybe she has religious exceptions to divorce, etc.).

I have to agree with this 100%. Most every woman that I know that stays in an unhappy marriage does it because they are scared of those very reasons.

 

[starrzone]

The thing that gets me is that in the intro of the show, Kody says something like "Love should be multiplied, not divided". In my opinion, the fewer wives you have, the more love each will get...so if you have more wives and children, doesn't that mean that the love you have is MORE divided??? Maybe I'm just talking nonsense here...might be all the turkey I ate yesterday for Thanksgiving dinner!

 

[tlbwriter]

The thing that gets me is that in the intro of the show, Kody says something like "Love should be multiplied, not divided". In my opinion, the fewer wives you have, the more love each will get...so if you have more wives and children, doesn't that mean that the love you have is MORE divided??? Maybe I'm just talking nonsense here...might be all the turkey I ate yesterday for Thanksgiving dinner!

Well, not necessarily. If you have more than one child, do those children get less love because your love is divided among more people? Or do you simply multiply your love to include all of them? Of course, that assumes all the wives love each other, and aren't just tolerating each other.

 

[Kimberle]

Heard on the radio today that Kody actually "married" Robyn last May... All living in the same house...

 

[KiKi Mouse]

I'm just saying you can't *assume* she's happy or even comfortable in her marriage just because she's still married. She may be comfortable, or she may be too afraid to get out (not necessarily afraid of BK, but afraid of living on her own, money issues, losing the safety net of the other wives, maybe she has religious exceptions to divorce, etc.).

The women have always been taken care of add that onto their religious belief system. I think any woman would find it near impossible to leave that security blanket.

 

[luvsmickeymouse]

Did anyone watch tonight? So Kody finds it "vulgar" to think that Meri would even "think" of being with another man but it's ok he has 3+ wives????

I saw this. I can't believe any woman would want this kind of life. I keep thinking that the reason he has so many wives is because Meri can't give him a houseful of kids.

 

[momrek06]

I saw this. I can't believe any woman would want this kind of life. I keep thinking that the reason he has so many wives is because Meri can't give him a houseful of kids.

Actually, this is BK's direct quote after Meri asked about him imagining her with another man....

"The vulgarity of the idea of you with another man, with another husband, with another lover... I just can't imagine it. It sickens me. It seems to go against God and nature."

 

[SaraJayne]

Actually, this is BK's direct quote after Meri asked about him imagining her with another man....

"The vulgarity of the idea of you with another man, with another husband, with another lover... I just can't imagine it. It sickens me. It seems to go against God and nature."

And he actually said that with a straight face?

 

[Sparx]

Actually, this is BK's direct quote after Meri asked about him imagining her with another man....

"The vulgarity of the idea of you with another man, with another husband, with another lover... I just can't imagine it. It sickens me. It seems to go against God and nature."

"I distrust those who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires"-Susan B. Anthony.

 

[Carly_Roach]

OK, now that I've seen the show I can make some educated comments.

I have not read this entire thread but does anyone else get the feeling that Kody could turn physically abusive? Something about him scares me. The way he responded to Meri in the restaurant did not sound loving at all. Even with me not agreeing with their views, I think he could have responded in a more civil way.

No. I didn't get that feeling at all. I think I was expecting to see anger or something at the table based on your post. What I saw was a couple who'd been married for 20 years going through a down time. I never got the impression that Kody could turn wife-abuser.

Did you all see BK try and DODGE the TLC cameras so he could go outside in private and kiss on his trophy GIRLFRIEND while Christine is in the hospital in labor delivering THEIR baby.

Sorry, but a quick peck does not equal making out. And he even had the good grace to feel a bit bad about it.

From what I saw, Kody and Christine went to the hospital for a routine check up during the middle of a normal business day (which explains why Meri and Janelle were at work and Robyn was home with 13 kids) and decided on the spur of the moment to have Christine induced. It makes perfect sense that Kody would go home to pick up clothes and supplies for Christine and stop off at Robyn's, who lives a block away, to tell the kids and phone the other two wives.

BK was at the hospital orginially with Christine as she was a week overdue ... they then decided that it was the 13th of the month and this was HIS 13th child so they asked the MD to induce her. They said they would.
BK said he wanted to go home to change ... WHY, I have NO CLUE. AND he ended up at Robyn's to tell her Christine was having the baby. He texted Meri and Janelle BUT told Robyn IN PERSON.
Then Christine called his cell to say HURRY BACK and he went running out the door and Robyn following right behind while BK did look at the TLC cameras and state that this was probably NOT GOOD him kissing Robyn while his wife was in labor. YA THINK, BK!!!!!!!

Why? Because maybe he was wearing his work clothes and wanted to be in something comfortable because he didn't know how long he'd be at the hospital? And the reason he texted Meri and Janelle was because they were at work at 2:30 in the afternoon and it was the quickest way to spread the news to them both at the same time. All the kids were at Robyn's so it would have been easier to tell them all at the same time.

Just had to chime in here. My oldest DD and I were talking about this show earlier & wondering how they afford the Lexus and huge house and what they did for a living. I did a google search and found an article from people magazine that Utah police are now investigating and may be possibly filing felony charges against them for polygamy. It is illegal. That may explain why the season finale is coming up so quick.

I've been watching some (not all) and all I see is a spoiled brat of a man wanting to live this lifestyle just so he can have it all. I have not once seen them practice any kind of religion or anything to that nature about why this is the lifestyle they have. The husband was not born into this lifestyle, he chose it. Now, I may be wrong on this part, since I'm only going by hearsay, but as far as them being charged, I say good. They were just trying to jump on the reality ban wagon to make a buck & they may get burned. I just feel sorry for the kids.

Just to add the BK guy thing is hilarious, he always freaked me out, just like this guy.

I find it fascinating how different people can see the same thing yet come up with different conclusions based on the filters of their own lives. That's not what I see at all. But, then again, I look for the best in people.

Yes, maybe, but she looks so unhappy. I felt so sorry for her too when she was talking about the miscarriage three years ago. However, she was not willing to take this to the next level with IVF. To me that looked like something BK just said to try to make her happy.

I just get a sense that she is extremely insecure, like when BK asked for a kiss and she said "right now?".Also, the way that she was looking at dinner in her actions and body language. It was like she was not connected to him at all. He was trying, but it looked fake. I think that she just wants someone to really LOVE her, and she's not getting what she needs.

OH, and his hair! He is wearing it like that because he is going bald! Did you see when he pulled it back? There is no hair under there. Just go bald, it would look better! He thinks that he is something else...

Again, that's not what I saw. Meri said at least once on that show that every marriage goes through it's ups and down. I happen to agree with her. They were going through a down period. If you and your husband had been going through a down period and a TV camera was only showing the dramatic points, people would be saying the same thing about you. YOU'D know it wasn't true, but you'd never be able to convince perfect strangers of that.

As for the IVF, she's in her 40's and likely sees that there's really no point now. She'd have to be very, very careful if she did get pregnant AND there's no guarantee that she wouldn't have another miscarriage like she did earlier and like Christine did the year before. Again, people are applying their own filters. I saw a middle-aged woman who was being smart about the choice she was making with her body. Good for her! I applaud her decision to not uproot her career and daughter, who's just starting to think about her own life now that she's nearing 18, to chase a fantasy about having another baby. It's the decision that any intelligent, self-assured woman in her 40's would make.

Again, filters apply. You see someone who doesn't love their husband and doesn't want to go through another preganancy for him. I see someone who knows herself and knows what's right for her. I also see a husband who loves his wife enough to try to give her something he thought she wanted. Men aren't always right about what we want and Kody is no different from any other man who guessed wrong.

I saw this. I can't believe any woman would want this kind of life. I keep thinking that the reason he has so many wives is because Meri can't give him a houseful of kids.

Doubtful. He married Meri for love and she came from a polygamous family to begin with. She knew there would be more wives regardless of her ability to have children. Isn't she the one who can't believe that women would want only one husband and only one child? Doesn't she consider that an awful way to live? To Meri, the way we live with only one husband and one or two children is just as distasteful and horrifying, if not more so, as we find her lifestyle with one husband and many sister-wives.

Actually, this is BK's direct quote after Meri asked about him imagining her with another man....

"The vulgarity of the idea of you with another man, with another husband, with another lover... I just can't imagine it. It sickens me. It seems to go against God and nature."

I think any man who loves his wife dearly would be sickened to think of her with another man. That seems perfectly normal to me. As for God and nature, they are religious. Again, it's normal for him to mention God and nature.

I'm sorry to see that the season finale is next week. This could have been an interesting show. I don't expect it to be back due to the Utah laws that govern by a puritanical sense of some 1800's morality instead of an educated, enlightened, tolerant viewpoint of letting people live their lives as they see fit unless they're harming their neighbors or children. The Brown family is harming no one and should be left alone.

 

[momrek06]

OK, now that I've seen the show I can make some educated comments.

Are you suggesting that NONE of the posters on here made EDUCATED comments??? Just YOU???

 

[KiKi Mouse]

Carly_Roach:"As for the IVF, she's in her 40's and likely sees that there's really no point now. She'd have to be very, very careful if she did get pregnant AND there's no guarantee that she wouldn't have another miscarriage like she did earlier and like Christine did the year before. Again, people are applying their own filters. I saw a middle-aged woman who was being smart about the choice she was making with her body. Good for her! I applaud her decision to not uproot her career and daughter, who's just starting to think about her own life now that she's nearing 18, to chase a fantasy about having another baby. It's the decision that any intelligent, self-assured woman in her 40's would make."

I had two babies in my 40's. I have a career and an education. There's nothing wrong with Meri wishing for another child and mourning not being able to have anymore.

 

[tlbwriter]

I think any man who loves his wife dearly would be sickened to think of her with another man. That seems perfectly normal to me.

But not the other way around...

 

[LiberalPrincess]

Are you suggesting that NONE of the posters on here made EDUCATED comments??? Just YOU???

Where are you possibly getting that from her comment? She was referring to herself. As in, before she was just commenting on generalities without actually seeing the show, now she has seen the show and she can address the comments with more specific comments. Talk about spoiling for a fight that isn't there.

 

[VickiVM]

Are you suggesting that NONE of the posters on here made EDUCATED comments??? Just YOU???

Actually, I think she's really saying that her previous comments were not based on watching this episode...or something like that.

I usually do not agree with her comments, but I don't think she was insinuating anyone else's are not educated.

My personal opinion of this family...Husband is arrogant. Wives 1, 2 and 3 were fine with this relationship because they all get something out of it...whether it is a babysitter while they work, someone to help with the household chores, or companionship. But I don't for a moment think they are ok with husband romancing another woman.

I think human nature is that we want to be the one and only in our spouse's/significant other's life - loved and cherished like no other. And I would love someone to quote where this was sanctioned biblically as an example of how one should live their life - NEW Testament. This is not a religious challenge - I just don't see the religious connection (other than Joseph Smith, founder of Mormon Church).

 

[mom22belles]

The whole family ( all 4 wives and 16 kids) will be on Oprah this Thursday.

 

[wdwmom0f3]

You see someone who doesn't love their husband and doesn't want to go through another preganancy for him.[/B] I see someone who knows herself and knows what's right for her. I also see a husband who loves his wife enough to try to give her something he thought she wanted. Men aren't always right about what we want and Kody is no different from any other man who guessed wrong.

I never said that she didn't love him. I see (IMO) that she unhappy in the marriage, but you can be unhappy and still love someone. I feel like she is wanting more attention from him. Yes, she didn't want to go through IVF, but if I was unhappy in my marriage, I wouldn't either. That's all I was saying.

 

[lovetoscrap]

What stuck out to me watching the latest episodes was when Robyn was looking at the photos with her kids and asking who each person was. When she pointed to BK the girl said "Kody" and Robyn prompted her that he is "Daddy".

I would REALLY like to know what their father thinks of this. No matter what the lifestyle, prompting young children to call the man you aren't even married to yet "Daddy" is just not right.

While I in no way agree with their lifestyle I do think that the state needs to stay out of it. As long as they aren't hurting anyone or living off the taxpayers, and they are married "spiritually" and not actually trying to have multiple legal marriages then they should be left alone.

What would be the point of arresting BK? Remove the father and now you have 2-3 woman and however many kids with no source of support. Government has no business in the bedrooms of consenting adults.

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

What stuck out to me watching the latest episodes was when Robyn was looking at the photos with her kids and asking who each person was. When she pointed to BK the girl said "Kody" and Robyn prompted her that he is "Daddy".

I would REALLY like to know what their father thinks of this. No matter what the lifestyle, prompting young children to call the man you aren't even married to yet "Daddy" is just not right.

While I in no way agree with their lifestyle I do think that the state needs to stay out of it. As long as they aren't hurting anyone or living off the taxpayers, and they are married "spiritually" and not actually trying to have multiple legal marriages then they should be left alone.

What would be the point of arresting BK? Remove the father and now you have 2-3 woman and however many kids with no source of support. Government has no business in the bedrooms of consenting adults.

I agree with everything.

I thought that was really weird with Robyn prompting her kids to call Kody "daddy". Have they mentioned the status of their real father? Is he around at all?