Since when did being a jerk become a theme park strategy?

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OP listed an age range probably from visuals of people acting like jerks. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't think that every single person who falls in that range is rude or is raising rude kids.
The point of the OP is that people were acting pushy and rude. It's laughable that the age range is where people are choosing to hang their hats.
Just to clarify...I.never mentioned an age range. My point is people only think of themselves and can be jerks. The person who knocked over my son knew what he did. He looked at him but not a sorry nor did he bither to help him up. Just kept going so he could get wherever he was going.
 
I'm sorry to hear about your son. We now avoid Fantasmic and Wishes because of the stampedes that follow. It's scary actually. I'm glad they are expanding the hub in MK. Hopefully that will relieve some of the crowds.

This very topic actually came up between me and DS7 today (BTW, I''m 44 and I won't associate with the age range that was listed! While many my age may have succumbed to this behavior, I won't and I certainly won't raise my DS to do it either! I'm not offended by the comment though.). I have to drive a lot on a daily basis on some very busy highways in CT and I've found CT drivers to be less than courteous and not very knowledgeable of basic traffic laws. Heck, if they stay on their side of the double yellow lines, it's a good day!

Anyway, I was in a left lane, trying to merge right and had my turn signal on. No one would let me in. I saw an opening and started pulling in, when the next car literally sped up to try to stop me because, god forbid, anyone get in front of him. I muttered under my breath and my DS7 asked me what was wrong. I explained turn signals and being courteous to other drivers, letting them in to a lane if you see they have a turn signal on as it really only takes about 5 seconds of slowing down your trip to help someone out! My DS7 said, oh yes, like the time after the fireworks in MK! I was very patient as others pushed past us trying to get out of the park. I truly believe places like WDW (and major interstates) can really make or break a person. I just can't understand caring so little about other people that you would knock someone down on the way out of a show. It's really sad. What happened to do unto others? Until then, yes, we will avoid big, crowded, end-of-the-night shows as well.

As for the napkins - wow.
 
Op here... Honestly I thought I had seen it all until today. Today took the cake. We were at wdw. We were sitting at Casey's corner. A family was at the table next to us. They had a child probably around 8. Apparently he had an issue because he proceeded to pull down his pants. His mom was yelling at him and he kept putting his hand near his rear. She ended up grabbing napkins and wiping his butt. She put the soiled napkin on the table and got another . She did it again. We were next to them eating. Eww.

I have never seen anything like it.
That is revolting and gag worthy. I hope they wer thrown out.
 

No one saw them except us.(at least that I know of) I just wanted to leave at that point. My daughter saw it but the other three didn't. I probably should have reported it or something....but I was in shock and completely grossed out.
 
Anyway, I was in a left lane, trying to merge right and had my turn signal on. No one would let me in. I saw an opening and started pulling in, when the next car literally sped up to try to stop me because, god forbid, anyone get in front of him. I muttered under my breath and my DS7 asked me what was wrong. I explained turn signals and being courteous to other drivers, letting them in to a lane if you see they have a turn signal on as it really only takes about 5 seconds of slowing down your trip to help someone out!.

I get this all the time in MA/RI. There's a merge of two lanes on a busy highway and more than once I'm in one of the lanes and there is a car in the other land with me being more than half a car ahead and these cars would speed up to get ahead of me. This merge is tight and it's not like they are getting anywhere faster than me by doing that!
 
I see an appalling example set by many parents today of the 35-45 age crowd. So many were raised by parents who told them they were so super special and no one should be telling them what to do that they bought into their own press. They need to learn that you don't always get to be, or have to be first. It's not a contest and there is no prize at the end, not even a trophy or a certificate.
Huh? I'm 40 and I strongly disagree. I don't know where you got that age bracket from but that is not how I or any of my friends were raised at all. Nor am I raising my own children that way...
 
Since the very first day. Here's proof!!

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Their grandparents taught them and Disney encouraged it!!

Can you believe those jerks!!

Ah, but weren't we adorable jerks ... :) And, in the aftermath of back-to-back World Wars and a Great Depression, who could blame our grandparents and parents for spoiling us ... just a little.

PS: Thank you so much for posting the picture. It does, though, make me a bit sad to be reminded that now that crinolines are finally back, I'm much too old to wear them.
 
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Last time we were at HS last year, I saw some people running. One of the runners was an older gentleman. During their running maneuvers past us an other families, he proceeded to fall and hurt his hip or something. I was annoyed at first and then part of me felt like justice had been served. I bet he won't do it again. Nobody wants to go to the Disney medical office! :crutches:
 
Ah, but weren't we adorable jerks ... :) And, in the aftermath of back-to-back World Wars and a Great Depression, who could blame our grandparents and parents for spoiling us ... just a little.

PS: Thank you so much for posting the picture. It does, though, make me a bit sad to be reminded that now that crinolines are finally back, I'm much too old to wear them.

I'm with ya granny! If I lived a couple thousand miles closer and just a couple years older (literally), I'd been right there with you running my tail off thru the gates. I'm sorry, sometimes I can't resist when I see these complaining post, I have to make a smarty pants post. In this world of hyper-sensitivity where everything is an offense or an issue, I think a lot of these folks wouldn't know a true hardship.

...and yes I'm sure you are adorable!! I don't know about the crinolines but I bet you can still rock a poddle skirt and sweater!! My favorite!!
 
We were there 2 years ago and I noticed this trend, especially right after the fireworks. I had a csection 2 mos prior, and was not even going to entertain fighting off people. We waited until the park cleared before we left.

On another note, I took three of our kids to the Seahawks Training camp this week, and afterwards the kids were able to go on the field and run drills. Well when they released the 12-13yr olds, and woman came running straight at me, and pushed me aside, to grab her son who was 12-13, and my son and I both of looked at her like "SERIOUSLY?" She acted like she was chasing a toddler. People are so inconsiderate. I'm barely in the age group mentioned, but I have to say, the age bracket that concerns me, is the 20somethings. That's where I see a lot of issues, not all of them, but even my nephew who is in his early 20s says, "why do they get to go before me, are they better than me?" 'I just do not get the entitlement.
 
No one saw them except us.(at least that I know of) I just wanted to leave at that point. My daughter saw it but the other three didn't. I probably should have reported it or something....but I was in shock and completely grossed out.

You should have reported it because of health hazards. I would have said something to the mother and then asked a CM to address it.

I am sorry you had to deal with that. :(
 
I see this as no different than daily drivers at home. Highway speed limit 55-65, some have to go 90 and weave in and out cutting off others. Right turn on red has become right turn get out of my way I'm not even going to slow down. Let them be and hold back until the great unwashed/entitled have gone there way and then proceed in peace.
 
I'm with ya granny! If I lived a couple thousand miles closer and just a couple years older (literally), I'd been right there with you running my tail off thru the gates. I'm sorry, sometimes I can't resist when I see these complaining post, I have to make a smarty pants post. In this world of hyper-sensitivity where everything is an offense or an issue, I think a lot of these folks wouldn't know a true hardship.

...and yes I'm sure you are adorable!! I don't know about the crinolines but I bet you can still rock a poddle skirt and sweater!! My favorite!!

Well, in the interest of full disclosure ...

I didn't run through those gates until August of 1955. I was twelve. And lived almost three thousand (pre-interstate) miles away. But, following my grandfather's death in early December of 1954, my grandmother bought a shiny new Pontiac (a huge, gray barge of a thing) and announced that we (she and my father, my mother, my aunt, my brother and I) were going to California (the trip that my grandfather had always wanted to take with his family). And we went in August because my grandmother was, among many things, a farmer, and she wanted us to see the country's harvest.

Disneyland was not on her agenda. I'm not sure that she'd even heard of it. But the rest of us certainly had.

One of my maternal aunts, her husband (whose own family of recently-immigrated Swedes had settled primarily in Illinois) and their two little boys lived in Oxnard. And I'm certain that by the end of that summer they cursed the name Disney in two languages. Because the six of us must have been the fourth or fifth group of suddenly-very-close relatives to arrive on the doorstep of their small three-bedroom home that summer.

My uncle has always said that he had never been so grateful for his scandinavian stoicism as he was in 1955.

We took a week to drive out from West Virginia. A week to drive back. And stayed a week on the coast. Knott's Berry Farm and Corriganville took a day. Los Angeles (and Hollywood) another. A third was spent with my father's former co-pilot in Ventura. A fourth driving up the coast to Santa Barbara. A fifth was filled with off-shore fishing (for select adults - my grandmother was also a mean fisherman) and a fabulous smorgasbord and the sixth, finally (For Pete's Sake!) ... at California's most amazing creation. On the seventh day we, biblically, napped.

I've flown across the country since. And traveled a little here and there. And I do love Disney World. But no vacation, and no place, has ever come close to being, for me, as magical as was that trip and that still-raw Disneyland.

As for 'adorable'? That was kind ... :)

And I do still have a couple of poodle skirts and a few of those matched sweater sets (the cardigans, when worn alone, correctly buttoned up the back). My single strand of pearls. And a very well-preserved pair of saddle oxfords (my favorite).

So, do you suppose, if I wore a large 1955 button on my sweater and my Mickey Mouse watch and ears, that anyone at next year's Mickey's Not So Scary Halloween Party would get it?

But it would take me longer than from now until then to train up to even a short sprint. So, I think I'd just skip.

ETA: It seems to me that my own generation has a curiously split personality. That those of us born just before or during WWII (and who completed our secondary education in the very early 1960s), while definitely spoiled, have nevertheless always been more than a little in awe of the two truly remarkable generations before us. If imitation is the most sincere form of flattery then, no matter how poor the end product, our very flattered parents and grandparents could never doubt our sincerity. And we found watching our 'grown-ups' (and many of their mores and manners) fade from public and private dominance unnerving. In short, I think that many of us preferred being kept to ... keeping.

On the other hand, I don't think that anyone would dispute that those of our siblings born after the war ended in 1945 gave new meaning to the word rebellion. And to say that they couldn't wait to run the world (and to rearrange or replace its social tapestries) would be monumental understatement. Things, to put it mildly, changed.

Now, it's my generation's turn to exit stage left (mostly ... :)) and I hope that I live long enough to see what our kids ultimately do with the place.

But, if this thread is any indication, constants remain. For instance, in our family whining has been met for generations with the question "You know what ...?" To which the only acceptable answer is "Yeah ... I'll live."
 
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Just as a heads up, they aren't just fireworks. There are projections on the castle, sound, songs-to me they're not even worth watching without the show that goes with them. Just regular fireworks. If you go in knowing you won't be able to move fast and you may get a squished foot and banged ankles and keep a positive attitude (realizing that most people are moving with the herd and not necessarily pushing and crowding on purpose) it's really not that bad.

Yeah, I said I'd avoid it in an earlier post but it's not because people were terrors -- it's just a really big crowd all trying to move through the same space at once. It was frustrating because it took a long time, not because people around us were particularly bad. We don't usually bother to stake out a specific spot for the fireworks, just pause wherever we are when they come on because you can see most of the stuff that isn't on the castle itself from anywhere in the park and the soundtrack plays everywhere. If we did watch it from in or near the hub I'd want to just stake out a spot near an edge and either stay put or actually slip out toward Tomorrowland or Adventureland to cool my heels until the bulk of the crowd passed.

The fact that he stated this ten year span of people who were raised a certain way (which was incorrect) and how that now leads us to show our children appalling behavior struck a cord. Obviously I'm not the only one!

The comments were condescending and insensitive. No matter what age.

ETA: @Disneychick75, it was not the OP who brought up the age debate. Another poster chimed in saying they see an appalling example of behavior from 35-45 and went on about how this group was raised. It was an incredibly ignorant remark imho and it caused quite a stir.

I'm a twenty-something (not for terribly much longer), so it's unusual for me to see someone complain about a generation other than my own! It's been said before in this thread -- every single generation has always decided that the youngsters who come after them are terrible and selfish and about to kick off the downfall of society. Then to see a couple of people in the accused age range come on here and reassure us that no, it's the millenials who are terrible and selfish and kickstarting the downfall of society.... :rolleyes: Most of them were more mature than that, thankfully.

I do expect immaturity from teenagers and basically from anyone under about age 24...but I'm not talking about the generation currently in that age range specifically, I'm noting that it's a scientific fact that humans don't reach full mental maturity until our mid-twenties. Young adults are always going to act like young adults, no matter the generation. Today's teenagers may be rude, but give them a decade and they'll be perfectly normal adults complaining about how tomorrow's teenagers are even ruder.
 
Op here... Honestly I thought I had seen it all until today. Today took the cake. We were at wdw. We were sitting at Casey's corner. A family was at the table next to us. They had a child probably around 8. Apparently he had an issue because he proceeded to pull down his pants. His mom was yelling at him and he kept putting his hand near his rear. She ended up grabbing napkins and wiping his butt. She put the soiled napkin on the table and got another . She did it again. We were next to them eating. Eww.

I have never seen anything like it.

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To many people feel entitled today, they do what they want and don't care about anything but themselves and what they can get done and or see. We were watching the fireworks at MK, choice spot we got there early stood our ground. Some lady comes up and pushes her way along the fence area, no one says anything. She gets to my 4 year old granddaughter and butt bumps her out of her way. Didn't go over well with me, I didn't act very disney at that moment, however no one else tried moving in my AO.
 
No one saw them except us.(at least that I know of) I just wanted to leave at that point. My daughter saw it but the other three didn't. I probably should have reported it or something....but I was in shock and completely grossed out.

OMG!!! I am now bringing wipes and wiping down our plane trays, our hotel room, and CS tables at restaurants. Seriously. I usually laugh at people who worry so much about germs, but your story just completely changed my mind. Gross!!!!!!
 
I'm thinking that these people running out of the theater were rushing to get to another attraction (RSR maybe). Obviously, this was on their mind during the whole show, probably to the point of not enjoying the show. So sad. I've never been to Fantasmic but I am planning it on my next trip.
 
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