*sigh* things have changed so much around here

[Bonnie40]

I agree. The bannings were supposedly to get rid of the mean folk, but it still seems like there are a few floating around here. And it does appear that the chosen few can say almost anything and be OK, but others get tossed off the boards for asking why.

I really don't care what rules the folks in charge make for the site, just make them apply to everyone.

And yes, it's not the same around here. Just typing this makes me wonder if I'll get to play here anymore. I don't like the whole walking on eggshells thing.

Just my thoughts...

Jen

My thoughts too! There's more than a few still around here, and far more great, contributing posters were unceremoniously banned!

 

[SwedishMeatball]

Well, I just wanted to say thanks to all the contributors on this thread. It's made me realize I need to spend more time focusing my energies on the important things in life. This was just exhausting and for what? There isn't going to be a big circle of virtual DISers holding hands and singing Kumbaya and living together in cordial harmony no matter what anyone says. Agree to disagree. If you don't like where you live then move. I just don't see the benefit of beating this over and over.

There are a ton of people I miss that are no longer here. I don't :::heart::: everyone who posts here nor everyone who is gone. If I said I did then I'd be lying. If you don't like what the CB or the DIS has become then maybe your happy place is elsewhere. If you think the CB isn't fun anymore, doesn't make you think or present challenges then contribute more to the forums. If you don't feel like that is an option due to the rules then again maybe another forum would suit your style better.

The point is that life is too short to expend ALL THIS ENERGY over something that quite frankly the only control any of us has is to participate or not. I guess we should all be thankful we do have the time and energy to spend doing this other than worrying about the real problems in life, like the fires in CA or the flooding throughout the Midwest.

Well said.

 

[MUFFYCAT]

I agree. The bannings were supposedly to get rid of the mean folk, but it still seems like there are a few floating around here. And it does appear that the chosen few can say almost anything and be OK, but others get tossed off the boards for asking why.

I really don't care what rules the folks in charge make for the site, just make them apply to everyone.

And yes, it's not the same around here. Just typing this makes me wonder if I'll get to play here anymore. I don't like the whole walking on eggshells thing.

Just my thoughts...

Jen

My thoughts too! There's more than a few still around here, and far more great, contributing posters were unceremoniously banned!

My thoughts also!

The chosen few continue to say and do anything they want while other innocent people are punished for so much as asking a question.

 

[Kurby]

i guess i just didn't visit the threads that caused a problem because i have no idea what's going on - didn't know there were any issues or any bannings.

but i'm sure if people were banned there was good reason for it.

sad though - one would hope that adults could behave themselves even in an enviroment where communication is only by type but it seems that people say/type things they might not say to someone if they were in the same room.

 

[JerseyJanice]

I didn't get a "why" really. And it definitely left a bad taste in my mouth. This particular moderator is someone I believe I can trust. I had no reason not to trust so I chose to give the mod the benefit of the doubt.

The only difference was my staying or going though. I'm sure Pete doesn't care about that but like I said, for me, it was the principle of the thing. JJ is a very good friend and for her name to pop up in Carly's screenname place at that time (which was about a week after the bannings started) was bothersome to me. It was an odd coincidence given the history and I KNOW JJ is not CR and never was so if it was sort of freakish game someone was playing, I certainly wasn't laughing.

Brenda, a big hug to you for defending me. I appreciate it.

However, I don't see a big reason to defend me. I know what I've posted in the past year or so, and it's nothing you or I or any friend of mine would have to defend. Thank you for taking up for me all the same.

To clarify a few points for the viewing audience, even though I'd hate for anyone to think I"m making this thread about me:

1. I was absent this board and most of the internet from last summer until this past spring. I was blessed to receive an opportunity at a whole new career at my advanced age of 45. It's not been so easy to learn and absorb so much new information at this point in my life. I didn't (and don't still, really) have enough mental energy to spend on Disney forums at the same time that I'm was trying to learn a whole new working situation.

2. Coincidentally, I did get a break from work in the third week of April that left me with free time to play around on-line. I posted here for the first time in months. It was very nice to bop in here then and say hello to some people who were around years ago.

3. I deliberately avoided saying anything about the mass banning situation even though I was in the midst of it. I felt that in spite of whatever old grudges I had, since I was off-line for about 9 months, I didn't really know what was going on. If there were something leading up to the mass banning on the CB, I wouldn't have known about it and felt like I had no grounds to comment on it.

4. When it was brought to my attention that CarlyRoach's username was changed to jersey_janice, I PMed a WM with whom I'd previously conversed one-on-one with to ask what happened. I received a humble apology from a mod here stating that it was due a simple human error he/she made. I accepted the apology because a) it's not like this stuff matters that much to me and b) he/she phrased it nicely and believably.

So while I was tempted to get angry at the Powers-That-Be here for changing the username of someone who was apparently aggravating people on another site to my username, I decided to let it go.

I had to wonder if somebody here did it spitefully for the sake of getting some free entertainment, what's the big deal anyway? I don't know much about Carly, but she hardly seems like the Antichrist from what I can gather. She just seems like someone with some original opinions, which is not a bad thing in my book.

I would think that Carly Roach's IP address is nothing like mine, but I don't know that for a fact. I have no clue where she lives or which internet provider she uses. What I do know is that I've used the same computer and internet connection since early 2004. I agree it sounds incredible that my username of all the thousands on the Dis was placed into somebody else's, but maybe it is like Carly's? Not being a Dis WM, how would I know?

I am appreciative of being able to make travel plans on this site, and I enjoy seeing the "old gang" where ever they pop up here. I'm not looking to throw myself into any controversies and be subjected to arguing with anybody.

This MB was something else in 2000-2002. Back then (when I did have a lot of down time on the job to goof around on-line), I used to hate leaving work some days because I was having so much fun here and didn't want to leave my computer. Those times are long ago and far away for me. I will always miss them.

One last thing--I happen to have come to a mutual respect with the owner of that "bad board." I don't see her anywhere lately, but I'm hardly on-line myself. If she happens to read this, I want to tell her that I haven't posted anything, anywhere as Carly, putting down her or her site. I've grown quite fond of her and some others on that bad place over the years, and I hope none of those people feel like I attacked them as Carly Roach. (And a disclaimer--I don't even know if or how or when Carly ever attacked them--just putting it out there that whatever her views are, they aren't necessarily mine.)

In any case, here we are how many weeks or months later that it's being discussed. I wouldn't even comment now except that it bothers me to see a good friend of mine feeling like she has to stick her neck out over the whole thing. You do know she's only doing it because she knows the truth and has a thing about telling it, right?

As to the OP, yes, you are right. Things have changed around here. It's the nature of bulletin boards, I'm sure, but I do miss those naive days too when we all used to bust Dan with our slightly-over-the-top posts. We were all brand new to the internet and message boards. It was a special time and a learning experience.

 

[TCPluto]

My thoughts too! There's more than a few still around here, and far more great, contributing posters were unceremoniously banned!

My thoughts also!

The chosen few continue to say and do anything they want while other innocent people are punished for so much as asking a question.

I'd really like to offer another respectful, yet candid, thought on the issue.

However, I have been collecting points like a starving man eating at the Crystal Palace buffet. I've nearly been banned 3 times in the past two months for much less than many here get away with.



I've probably said too much......

 

[r_u_h8n_2]

Yeah the walking on eggshells thing is wayyyy too much. I have definitely noticed a change since earlier this year.

 

[eddad]

I'd really like to offer another respectful, yet candid, thought on the issue.

However, I have been collecting points like a starving man eating at the Crystal Palace buffet. I've nearly been banned 3 times in the past two months for much less than many here get away with.



I've probably said too much......

How did yo get banned and manage to come back, If I may ask, or were they temporary bans?

 

[TCPluto]

How did yo get banned and manage to come back, If I may ask, or were they temporary bans?

Temporary. 10 days here, 20 days there....

 

[eddad]

Temporary. 10 days here, 20 days there....

AHh..Makes sense then..Thanks

 

[darlak]

I'd really like to offer another respectful, yet candid, thought on the issue.

However, I have been collecting points like a starving man eating at the Crystal Palace buffet. I've nearly been banned 3 times in the past two months for much less than many here get away with.



I've probably said too much......

LOL, that's the funniest thing I've read all day! Until Banfest 08, I had never had even a single point, but I've been making up for it since then.

 

[Buckalew11]

JJ, You are right. I am only defending the (truth) fact that I KNOW you weren't Carly and I do not want to read that people think you might be her. I was going to post over at the other board because I wanted to say it and tell that truth but I decided against it in the end.
I was also defending the mod because I believe the mod told me the truth.


None of this will ever change...people will always carry hurt around for the people who were banned who were innocent. I understand it is hard to let go because it is. I haven't totally let go of my past hurts either--and people told me to "get over it" and move on 'cause the boards were changing. So I totally understand the feelings people are having. But, as I said, it isn't really going to get better or change much.
I'm outta here. This dead horse beating could go on for a l-o-n-g time!

 

[TCPluto]

Yeah the walking on eggshells thing is wayyyy too much. I have definitely noticed a change since earlier this year.

AHh..Makes sense then..Thanks

I had three respectful, though candid, paragraphs typed out. Since my wife uses this site (even if rarely), I deleted it.

 

[racetrack18kb]

That's exactly what it is, teacher's pets.

I'm just a bystander. I don't hang out on the other board, I was never friends (nor enemies) with anyone who was banned. I do miss some of the posters, though, as some of them were very well-spoken and their posts really made me think, whether I agreed with them or not. Now it seems there aren't as many intelligent discussions, just more inane generalizations and name-calling.

And it seems there are certain people who are allowed to be outright mean, while others get posts deleted for daring to question the "pets".

I'm still coming here, but less and less. I've been through board break-ups before, they seem to happen every couple of years on every site. That's why I don't really attempt to get close to people on-line. So it's not a big loss to me, but I'm sorry for the people who have more invested in this site. It's not the same place anymore. Not by a long shot.

I agree. The bannings were supposedly to get rid of the mean folk, but it still seems like there are a few floating around here. And it does appear that the chosen few can say almost anything and be OK, but others get tossed off the boards for asking why.

I really don't care what rules the folks in charge make for the site, just make them apply to everyone.

And yes, it's not the same around here. Just typing this makes me wonder if I'll get to play here anymore. I don't like the whole walking on eggshells thing.

Just my thoughts...

Jen

I don't have anything to add. I think they have summed up exactly what I've been thinking.

 

[JerseyJanice]

I was going to post over at the other board because I wanted to say it and tell that truth but I decided against it in the end.

I was going to myself, except I was afraid I'd be drawn into some time- and energy-consuming argument that doesn't mean a thing to me in reality.

I'm not Carly Roach. I know very little about her posts, and I don't have the time or desire to get into a protracted discussion over whether some Dis WM "outted" me as being somehow connected to that username. I know I have no connection to that name and so do the on-line people who matter to me.

 

[SplshMtn99]

JJ,

But you don't find the fact that somone on the DIS changed ANYONE's username in the first place odd? Yet changed it to your own?

I'm sorry, but the fact that anyone was even messing with someones username in the first place is just odd, then to pick an already existing name (even slightly altered) is still strange. I would be mad. But I guess that's me.

Combine that with all the thread deleting going on & posts vanishing at the time, you really have to wonder what the heck was going on here. It doesn't just happen by itself even though computers do have a mind of their own.

If my name was used, I would want a REALLY good explanation...and I'm still not sure I would believe it.

 

[Buckalew11]

One more...

You know Splash, I agree with you except for WHO made the goof. If you were in my shoes and this mod told you what this mod told me, you might find it easier to believe. If Mickey himself had done it I may not have been so believing. You have to trust your friends.

 

[JerseyJanice]

But you don't find that fact the somone on the DIS changed ANYONE's username in the first place? Yet changed it to your own?

I'm sorry, but the fact that anyone was even messing with someones username in the first place is just odd, then to pick an already existing name (even slightly altered) is still strange. I would be mad. But I guess that's me.

I admit I was peeved, annoyed maybe, but mad? Not really. I guess if I posted here a lot or felt being on-line were a big part of my life, I'd have been angry. And like I said, I was given a very nice apology, albeit without an indepth explanation.

What was I supposed to do anyway? Go stomping off the Dis, demanding that my JJ username be erased from here? I happen to enjoy seeing old friends here and I do use the site for travel planning, so that would be cutting off my nose to spite my face.

And I'm not trying to paint a rosy picture of my history with that site. My on-line personna was victimized horribly by the place at one time; I'll never forget that and I hate seeing anybody go through the same thing.

I don't think anyone should assume that site is a truthful place where only people who deserve to be skewered get what's coming to them. You can't say that anymore than the Dis WM's can say they only ban people who deserve it.

I just think everyone needs to take this stuff not-too-seriously. It isn't real life after all.

 

[SplshMtn99]

One more...

You know Splash, I agree with you except for WHO made the goof. If you were in my shoes and this mod told you what this mod told me, you might find it easier to believe. If Mickey himself had done it I may not have been so believing. You have to trust your friends.

I do have a couple of mods (not webmasters) that like me...or at least I think I do. BUT, I would still be very leary of the info. Maybe because I had to live thru my friends getting banned one after another. JJ was probably lucky to have been gone for 9 months. I'm sure that helps ease the pain.

I'm still hurting. Sorry. I'm probably too attached.

 

[Planogirl]

I just think everyone needs to take this stuff not-too-seriously. It isn't real life after all.

I kind of agree. It isn't real life however it can still mean something. It seems to mean a LOT to some people.

I can understand why some people feel hurt and I can also understand why some people feel mistreated but as I asked before what can be done about it? I don't understand it and wish that there was a way to go back in time but there isn't.

I miss some old days from even further back too - does anyone remember the Inspiration Board? One of the best people ever ran that for a very long time. I miss the Debate Board and the old Rumors Board too.

I'm not sure where this board is going now but it sure feels strange. It's felt strange before but not like this.