Should the top floor of every WDW hotel be modified for DVC?

[jade1]

Obviously thats rediculous but secretly that would be kind of neat to know all WDW resorts would be in the plan at reasonable point rates and have 2BR's etc-not to mention the best views on top. Converting suites would not work since those are needed for the heavy hitters so maybe some hotels would need to be the second floor from the top?

 

[Chuck S]

I would think housekeeping/maintenance and accounting costs for a "handful" of rooms at each resort would lead to very high dues at those resorts.

 

[crisi]

No. If DVC is going to convert existing hotel rooms, they should be the worst rooms in the hotel, not the best. They don't need views to sell the rooms - we've already bought them - the views need to resell the cash rooms year after year after year.

(BTW at AKL the worst views are from the top - because you are farther from the animals - request a low room at AKL.)

 

[tomandrobin]

NO...I like the way they are now. Even though BWV, BCV and VWL are connected to a hotel, they are still thier own building. I am not sure how DVC and Disney and establish fair maintenance costs with a shared hotel/condo building.

I like that as a DVC owner, we have our own facilities to use. We can already stay at a non-dvc hotel on points and share all the amenities of a regular paying guest.

 

[BEACHCLUBVILLAS]

No. If DVC is going to convert existing hotel rooms, they should be the worst rooms in the hotel, not the best. They don't need views to sell the rooms - we've already bought them - the views need to resell the cash rooms year after year after year.

Are you serious or is this tongue in cheek? I sometimes can't decifer. I think if I've made an investment in Disney and come year after year, I'd like them to make an investment in me and make an effort to give us a nice view..not just meet bare minimum requirements of providing a room because they know we will come.

 

[Cruelladeville]

I think it would be great to have DVC everywhere at WDW! That would make our membership(and Disney's investment in DVC) worth even more than it is now, and everyone would want to join!

 

[crisi]

Are you serious or is this tongue in cheek? I sometimes can't decifer. I think if I've made an investment in Disney and come year after year, I'd like them to make an investment in me and make an effort to give us a nice view..not just meet bare minimum requirements of providing a room because they know we will come.

I'm being serious. I'm an investor in Disney, as in a stockholder. I want them to make smart business decisions. Handing off prime rooms at a reduced rate over the long term is not a good business decision. If the economy downturns, they'll need incentives - like great rates on great views - to get people to stay in their hotels. If they've turned them into DVC rooms, those rooms are not available to run specials on.

 

[ducklite]

Not going to work.

At the AKL, YC, WL, BC, CR, BWI the top floors are already in use for club level.

At the GF and PR there are multiple buildings.

Frankly just doing the legal paperwork for this would be nightmarish and expensive.

Anne

 

[BEACHCLUBVILLAS]

I'm being serious. I'm an investor in Disney, as in a stockholder. I want them to make smart business decisions. Handing off prime rooms at a reduced rate over the long term is not a good business decision. If the economy downturns, they'll need incentives - like great rates on great views - to get people to stay in their hotels. If they've turned them into DVC rooms, those rooms are not available to run specials on.

Then a smart business decision is to take care of your regular customers because if the econmy downturns, its the DVC members who will come anyway and keep those parks in operation until things turn around. The worst location will not sell rooms either DVC or otherwise.

 

[jade1]

Not going to work.

At the AKL, YC, WL, BC, CR, BWI the top floors are already in use for club level.

At the GF and PR there are multiple buildings.

Anne

Yea I know, but...isn't AK already looking at the top floor to be DVC? (actually that was what got me wondering). Also as I mentioned in the OP the 2nd floor from the top may work better in some resorts because of this.

Also wasn't there discussion about seperate buildings at Allstars to be DVC? Why not a few "buildings" at GF/PR?

 

[crisi]

Then a smart business decision is to take care of your regular customers because if the econmy downturns, its the DVC members who will come anyway and keep those parks in operation until things turn around. The worst location will not sell rooms either DVC or otherwise.

Nope, your regular customers won't be sufficient to support the fixed costs of running the resorts and parks, you'd go under.

 

[crisi]

I'm also confused, how is giving someone a prime room that they paid for ten or fifteen years ago going to help your bottom line in a down economy.

The thing to keep in mind with DVC is - they've got us. We are regular customers and when we bought DVC we committed to being regular customers. While its nice of them to "reward" our loyalty via park pass discounts and participation in the dining plan, they shouldn't be giving us limited resources to keep us coming - that happened when they sold us our rooms up front.

 

[disneybride96]

I would think the remodel costs would be out of this world.
It would be much more economical to just build a new building.

 

[pilferk]

Yea I know, but...isn't AK already looking at the top floor to be DVC? (actually that was what got me wondering).

That's the "rumor", yes. However, it's just as likely (given the actual permit filed) that they're just building models up there, rather than converting the whole floor for DVC use.

 

[jade1]

I would think the remodel costs would be out of this world.
It would be much more economical to just build a new building.

Very well could be true, then again I beleive they are converting Allstar buildings in to 1BR suites as we speak, so it must not be too bad if a Value Resort is already doing it.

 

[DVC Grammy]

Wow! Think how many rooms we'd get if they'd include the Poly, all the mods, and all the values!!

 

[spiceycat]

Very well could be true, then again I beleive they are converting Allstar buildings in to 1BR suites as we speak, so it must not be too bad if a Value Resort is already doing it.

these are staying with WDW and becoming family suites - not DVC units.

Now Pop Century might go either way. I am betting it also becomes family suites - because even in Music those things are hard to get.

they are pretty cute - but I don't know if worth the price. I would still get 2 values rooms if necessary - they are cheaper.

 

[dianeschlicht]

No. Any time a resort adds DVC, that resort can no longer be hopped to. The whole relationship changes for DVC members.

 

[jade1]

these are staying with WDW and becoming family suites - not DVC units.

Thanks for clarifying, but I really meant to refer to the conversion costs being outrageous compared to building new. It must be cheaper if the Allstars are doing it.

 

[jade1]

Thanks for the input, I guess its a pretty stupid idea. All I can say is if WDW converted some buildings or floors at GF or Poly (others may have interest at BWI/Y&B/WL) I would add on to gain the booking window advantage there. I really would not add on to a moderate or value even at a lower price.