Should Disney get new buses that can have wifi and USB plugs

[disney david]

I think the wifi and plugs are being added here (I live in NYC) on buses that serve a longer route. Some people are on the buses for over an hour as apart of their commute here so it makes sense to offer wifi and charging capabilities.

Onto the topic of the disability seating. I mean I feel like there are pretty well marked now. The tie down spots in are completely different texture and color to the seats around them and the only ones that lift up. I believe no others are held at Disney.

I see wifi but not plugs special on mat just looking for trouble when a fight breaks out because someone using it to long or touches their device.

 

[disney david]

Yeah...say I get dizzy, sit down in the handicapped seats. Am normally able bodied, but if dizzy no balance so in that case, which do you want? Let me sit down and no one gets hurt? Or To ban me from sitting down and then having me fall on a kid and hurt them and myself?

I don't know, I just don't judge if someone sits down in those seats. Handicapped/disabled, comes in many, many different forms and not all are visible to the naked eye.

Never ever said to judge anyone the seats are their for the elderly guest with hidden disabilities or guest who need the seat. Again never said ban anyone from the seats.

 

[wilkeliza]

I see wifi but not plugs special on mat just looking for trouble when a fight breaks out because someone using it to long or touches their device.

We have plugs on the commuter trains and everyone is pretty civil about it. You get a plug great, if not so be it. Never seen a fight over a plug it is just nice when you manage to get the seat that has it. Our bus system is showing fewer and fewer rides every year though so this was mostly just a "perk" to try and get people to ride again. It isn't going to do it though.

 

[disney david]

Never mind

 

[DisneyOma]

again no. the public transportation in Japan that has these seats that fold up are NOT for the Handicapped. they are to cram about twice as many standing people in to the conveyance during rush hour. they automatically fold back down after a certain time.

You quoted my post, and then posted nothing about what I stated - it was about a bus/transit train that had the whole side lift up, not just seats. Or if that is the vehicle you mean, could you find a photo of it? I've been trying, but no luck yet.

Someone else mentioned evacuation needs - most people using ECVs and scooters are pretty mobile to the point where they could get off the bus themselves. Those paralyzed and/or strapped into wheelchairs - I've never seen 7 of them try to get on the same bus at the same time.

 

[Westcoastwild]

Okay so we found out most if not all don't like the idea of wifi and plugs on the bus which Is good.


So if you could add two features to the bus what would they be.

Mine well I stick to two

1. A new tie down system that make it easier and maybe could hold more ecv and wheelchairs.

2. Blue lights over the tie down seats and seats with handicap logo on them saying which are tie down ones and ones that are for guest with disabilities or ederly.
to help identify the seats in effort to curb guest from sitting in those. Or at least keep able bodied guest from sitting in those seats

All right. I apologize for judging you too harshly- it's just that the bold section made me double take because there really isn't a way for you or anyone else on that bus to say that the person sitting there is definitely able bodied.

I think the ECV tie down section is pretty standard though, right? I mean it's the same as we've got on buses here, and it's designed that way for safety reasons. It's just that you see the tie down process much more often on Disney transit (nearly any transit I've ridden on has limited access points anyway, so you're unlikely to encounter ECVs and wheel chairs on many routes.

Only at Disney would there be a fist fight over pluginsI see them on transit here, but really, only used once in awhile by teens or on the longer routes- regional transit like Amtrak. In the latter case people stake them out, but it's not something folks fight over because I would say only a quarter of the people NEED it anyway. Either you've got your own battery pack or people aren't using electronics. I mean, at Disney, you need the app. But in daily life, you probably aren't using your phone for anything except disboards and Pokémon go. You know, the truly important stuff. My battery lasts all day on a "normal" day.

 

[DisneyOma]

But in daily life, you probably aren't using your phone for anything except disboards and Pokémon go. You know, the truly important stuff. My battery lasts all day on a "normal" day.

Don't start playing Magic Kingdoms - I've been playing for a few weeks now and it is a battery-sucker! Way too much fun!

 

[disney david]

All right. I apologize for judging you too harshly- it's just that the bold section made me double take because there really isn't a way for you or anyone else on that bus to say that the person sitting there is definitely able bodied.

I think the ECV tie down section is pretty standard though, right? I mean it's the same as we've got on buses here, and it's designed that way for safety reasons. It's just that you see the tie down process much more often on Disney transit (nearly any transit I've ridden on has limited access points anyway, so you're unlikely to encounter ECVs and wheel chairs on many routes.

Only at Disney would there be a fist fight over pluginsI see them on transit here, but really, only used once in awhile by teens or on the longer routes- regional transit like Amtrak. In the latter case people stake them out, but it's not something folks fight over because I would say only a quarter of the people NEED it anyway. Either you've got your own battery pack or people aren't using electronics. I mean, at Disney, you need the app. But in daily life, you probably aren't using your phone for anything except disboards and Pokémon go. You know, the truly important stuff. My battery lasts all day on a "normal" day.

I sorry to I most likely didn't get my point out as clear as I should have. I need to take my time and try harder.

I not against them in the right place like trains feel your on them longer. But have to wait and see about the buses.

 

[wilkeliza]

I think the biggest way Disney could improve buses is just keeping a bigger fleet and drivers to match. It was insanity the past week to wait 30 plus minutes at the Beach club for a bus to MK. We also had this at AKL for Animal Kingdom. If the buses came every 10-15 minutes it would be no big deal how many ECVs were in line or skipped to the front or whatever because there would be another bus shortly. The problem because when you get into a 30-45 minute wait the number of people starts to pile up and then get cranky.

 

[Westcoastwild]

I think the biggest way Disney could improve buses is just keeping a bigger fleet and drivers to match. It was insanity the past week to wait 30 plus minutes at the Beach club for a bus to MK. We also had this at AKL for Animal Kingdom. If the buses came every 10-15 minutes it would be no big deal how many ECVs were in line or skipped to the front or whatever because there would be another bus shortly. The problem because when you get into a 30-45 minute wait the number of people starts to pile up and then get cranky.

That is definitely true. I'm not the kind of person who would rent a car or rely on uber, but I understand why some folks do- I noticed a lot of inconsistency on wait times between resorts. There's no real good reason for a 30 minute interval unless it's really late at night or before parks open.

 

[disney david]

I think the biggest way Disney could improve buses is just keeping a bigger fleet and drivers to match. It was insanity the past week to wait 30 plus minutes at the Beach club for a bus to MK. We also had this at AKL for Animal Kingdom. If the buses came every 10-15 minutes it would be no big deal how many ECVs were in line or skipped to the front or whatever because there would be another bus shortly. The problem because when you get into a 30-45 minute wait the number of people starts to pile up and then get cranky.

Your 100 percent right they need more buses and drivers. Right now best guess with a driver telling me a few years ago they have 1300 drivers but sure it went up since then. With over 300 buses again sure it higher. But with pandora, Star Wars land and toy story land and increasing guest they need more buses. And maybe bigger buses if possible or make it so the articulated buses can go to more resorts but think that coast to much and be to big headache.

I know they want to hire at least a thousand more cms not sure how many bus drivers.

 

[TheRustyScupper]

1) No !!!!!!!
2) This is vacation.
3) It should be an UNPLUGGED time period.
4) Wait for your room if "being wired" is so important.

OK, maybe just me. But, why do we need to be connected so much? The world is passing us by in education because they thumb through books, and our kids thumb trough text messages.

 

[wilkeliza]

1) No !!!!!!!
2) This is vacation.
3) It should be an UNPLUGGED time period.
4) Wait for your room if "being wired" is so important.

OK, maybe just me. But, why do we need to be connected so much? The world is passing us by in education because they thumb through books, and our kids thumb trough text messages.

The rest of the world is just as connect as we are. They are passing us for other reasons starting with the budget differences and how teachers are treated.

 

[Westcoastwild]

1) No !!!!!!!
2) This is vacation.
3) It should be an UNPLUGGED time period.
4) Wait for your room if "being wired" is so important.

OK, maybe just me. But, why do we need to be connected so much? The world is passing us by in education because they thumb through books, and our kids thumb trough text messages.

Have you been anywhere else? I did not actually see a lot of book thumbing in Europe. Trashy magazine thumbing. Cell phone thumbing. But not really book thumbing. And my Brazilian roommates were very into selfies and social media.

In all seriousness...I read books on my cell phone. I think last trip I was reading Pride and Prejudice because that always somewhat strikes me as Disney-esque. At least in an alternate world where Gaston turned out to be a decent guy and Belle fell for him

There are other things I can think of to do in ride lines but most of those ideas would result in a fist fight.

 

[Mrsjvb]

You quoted my post, and then posted nothing about what I stated - it was about a bus/transit train that had the whole side lift up, not just seats. Or if that is the vehicle you mean, could you find a photo of it? I've been trying, but no luck yet.

Someone else mentioned evacuation needs - most people using ECVs and scooters are pretty mobile to the point where they could get off the bus themselves. Those paralyzed and/or strapped into wheelchairs - I've never seen 7 of them try to get on the same bus at the same time.

when you say 'lift up' do you mean a platform to raise ECVs and wheelchairs? no such animal . access on trains is zero entry( and the gaps are fairly small, much easier to board than say the DC system) buses, buses, once the rear door opens, the step up is actually minimal.. a standard step/stair in most cases. one, Japan is not that handicapped friendly, mostly because they don't have to be. try climbing Fuji -san as a healthy adult in your mid 30s and being passed by a 90 year old man who climbs it daily and while you are still going up, he is on his way down. I spent three years in the Tokyo area. never saw a single ECV or wheelchair on public transportation.

all buses and trains/subway, however, have extra wide doors( you actually enter from the rear access point on Buses. ) the trains, for one, have 8 seats located at these entries that automatically raise during rush hour( you cannot manual lift them or pull them down at all) and there are no tie downs. you go from being able to fit 8 people in seats plus maybe 10 standing to fitting a minimum of 25-30( yeah they do like to squish.. they have entire crews of white gloved men with sticks to help smash everyone in enough to close the doors. claustrophobic people need never ride the KHK line)

I know it takes the driver a good 5-10 minutes to strap my chair down. multiply that by seven, and halve the number of seats for the rest of the crowd waiting, and there will soon be a riot, and rightly so. . once during my last trip I was not the only person waiting. I went on first, but the ECV driver had no freaking clue how to drive it so while I was strapped down in short order, it was another 15( no lie) minutes before she was in her spot and tied down. what i wish they would do is lose the buses that have that HUGE step up just behind the rear door. its ridiculously narrow and forcing people to schlep their monster truck sized double stroller all the way back there means that even if there were empty seats back there, no one could reach them.

 

[DisneyOma]

when you say 'lift up' do you mean a platform to raise ECVs and wheelchairs? no such animal . access on trains is zero entry( and the gaps are fairly small, much easier to board than say the DC system) buses, buses, once the rear door opens, the step up is actually minimal.. a standard step/stair in most cases. one, Japan is not that handicapped friendly, mostly because they don't have to be. try climbing Fuji -san as a healthy adult in your mid 30s and being passed by a 90 year old man who climbs it daily and while you are still going up, he is on his way down. I spent three years in the Tokyo area. never saw a single ECV or wheelchair on public transportation.

all buses and trains/subway, however, have extra wide doors( you actually enter from the rear access point on Buses. ) the trains, for one, have 8 seats located at these entries that automatically raise during rush hour( you cannot manual lift them or pull them down at all) and there are no tie downs. you go from being able to fit 8 people in seats plus maybe 10 standing to fitting a minimum of 25-30( yeah they do like to squish.. they have entire crews of white gloved men with sticks to help smash everyone in enough to close the doors. claustrophobic people need never ride the KHK line)

I know it takes the driver a good 5-10 minutes to strap my chair down. multiply that by seven, and halve the number of seats for the rest of the crowd waiting, and there will soon be a riot, and rightly so. . once during my last trip I was not the only person waiting. I went on first, but the ECV driver had no freaking clue how to drive it so while I was strapped down in short order, it was another 15( no lie) minutes before she was in her spot and tied down. what i wish they would do is lose the buses that have that HUGE step up just behind the rear door. its ridiculously narrow and forcing people to schlep their monster truck sized double stroller all the way back there means that even if there were empty seats back there, no one could reach them.

There was a video (maybe that's where I should look?) or photo of a transit vehicle (train or bus?) that had the whole side of the vehicle lift up, not seating. The wall of the vehicle went up and people could walk, roll in - so now I'm thinking it has to be a train on a platform?

Anyways, I can't find it now. Maybe it was a prototype that didn't work. But it made sense to me, as it removed obstacles for access.

 

[Tozzie]

1) No !!!!!!!
2) This is vacation.
3) It should be an UNPLUGGED time period.
4) Wait for your room if "being wired" is so important.

OK, maybe just me. But, why do we need to be connected so much? The world is passing us by in education because they thumb through books, and our kids thumb trough text messages.

Seriously, it isn't up to you to decide what and when someone should be "plugged" in it is up to them and how they want to be plugged in. Unless you are inviting yourself on my vacation I will be "plugged in" whenever I choose

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Well the KC Street Car, which currently only has a 2.2 mile long track (extension is wanted on it though) in Downtown KC,MO has Wifi along the track route outside of the shops/restaurants, etc more meant for while people are waiting for the street car or out walking along the route not for inside those shops/restaurants, etc (it is provided by Sprint) but the street cars themselves are planned to get wifi in the next phase of the project..so there are places/areas where even for a short distance wifi has been provided/thought of.

The USB outlets while I think would be neat-ish would probably cause too much of a hassle at Disney. I already see it at the airports and whatnot when there's an outlet/usb port and people kinda horde those. Along those lines it would only be a matter of time before those outlets would stop working and I'd say it's a safe bet that they wouldn't be fixed continuously so they would then become useless.

 

[stitchlovestink]

Seriously, it isn't up to you to decide what and when someone should be "plugged" in it is up to them and how they want to be plugged in. Unless you are inviting yourself on my vacation I will be "plugged in" whenever I choose

And honestly with the park apps and all the other online things like FPs and ADRs, Disney is very much encouraging guests to plug in!!
There is rumour that they want to encourage people to use park maps online rather than paper ones. They have already cut back on how many they print and where you can actually get them.

 

[mamabunny]

And honestly with the park apps and all the other online things like FPs and ADRs, Disney is very much encouraging guests to plug in!!
There is rumour that they want to encourage people to use park maps online rather than paper ones. They have already cut back on how many they print and where you can actually get them.

We don't pick them up anymore - we use the maps that are built into the App. Those maps are always current, I can zoom in or out as much as I want, and they can show me all kinds of stuff - including wait times. The old paper maps can't do that! LOL

But, to get things back on David's original topic, I think that Disney is going to continue to innovate in the Guest transportation space - it sounds like the Gondolas are going to happen (according to the Orlando Sentinel) and there is a rumor that Disney is going to try and create a WDW-only type of Uber. I think that a "gull wing" door type bus that opens the entire side would be insanely cool - and that Disney's legal team would never let it happen, simply because of potential liability issues.

Honestly, I am still surprised that they haven't figured out that they wouldn't even have to "kneel" that bus to load wheeled devices if the platforms were the right height - imagine how much time *that alone* would save!