Shorts?

[Silverfox97]

I guess I'm the exception to the rule. I so rarely have an occasion to wear my tux these days, that I look forward to pulling it out of the closet whenever possible. Judging by how few men were wearing tuxes on our last Formal Night, I realize I'm in the minority on this.

To me, formal night = tuxedo and semi-formal night (and Palo/Remy) = suit and tie, and I would feel uncomfortable dressing more casually than that. I understand that not every man owns their own tux and if I didn't, I would most likely just put on a black suit, white shirt and black tie combo, rather than pay money to rent someone else's clothes.

My personal philosophy is that I would rather be overdressed than underdressed - if you're underdressed, it appears as if you just don't care, and if you're overdressed, people will just assume that you have some place better to go afterwards. But once again, that's just me...

Question for the "significant others" on this thread - which would give you the bigger thrill? Being accompanied to dinner by a husband/boyfriend who is wearing jeans and t-shirt or one who is wearing a tux/suit. I know that the temptation is to say "I love them for who they are, not what they are wearing", but that's not what I'm asking.

This sounds like my DH's philosophy as well

And to answer your question, I love to see my DH dressed up

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[lchute1158]

Nice shorts is my theme... And I'll even put on my good flip flops

 

[shmoogrrrl]

I am wondering how many Men would like to do away with Formal Night. I do not know very many men that would trade their blue jeans or dockers for a Tux.

My husband isn't one of them. He LOVES any excuse to wear his tux. It makes him feel like James Bond or something.

 

[mcd2745]

I am wondering how many Men would like to do away with Formal Night.

I would in a heartbeat. Or I'd actually make them all of the "optional" variety instead of doing away with them altogether. You want to dress up...go ahead. The problem with these threads is always the same though. They're one-way streets. Those on the "casual" side of the fence, couldn't care less what those on the "formal" side of the fence do or wear. However, most of those on the formal side believe a nice pair of shorts in the MDR is a crime against humanity.


If I were in charge of the dress policy, collared shirts would be a requirement for men. I would also ban swimwear, tank tops, flip-flops, jeans, maybe even sneakers (for adults) and enforce it strictly. Without a doubt everyone should look presentable/respectable (choose whatever adjective you like), and that can be done while wearing shorts. It's not the affront to all things decent that some here believe it is.


Something I found interesting a while back (maybe a around a year ago) was someone mentioned in one of these threads that for the Alaskan cruise, they request no jeans (what most are probably wearing during the day) in the MDR. What I think that tells you is, more than anything, DCL doesn't want guests going straight to the dining room from whatever it is they've been doing and wearing whatever they've been wearing throughout the day. That mostly, they just want everyone to "clean up" and change before going to dinner.

 

[MikeAndNick]

My husband isn't one of them. He LOVES any excuse to wear his tux. It makes him feel like James Bond or something.

Does that make you Miss Moneypenny?

James Bond: Hmm, never seen you after hours, Moneypenny... lovely.
Miss Moneypenny: Thank you, James.
James Bond: Out on some kind of fashion assignment, dressing to kill?
Miss Moneypenny: I know you'll find this crushing, 007, but I don't sit at home every night praying for some international incident so I can run down here all dressed up to impress James Bond. I was on a date,
James Bond: Moneypenny, I'm devastated.

 

[Plaid Princess]

I am wondering how many Men would like to do away with Formal Night. I do not know very many men that would trade their blue jeans or dockers for a Tux.

My husband loves to dress up! I'm am constantly reminding him to dress down for things. We dress up every night of the cruise, but I'm not fussed if others don't. In fact, on our last cruise the rest of our group went casual each night, but we were still in our finery. Any excuse for a new dress.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

DH wears his suit for formal night. I had to convince him that his suit minus the jacket would be fine for semi-formal night.

One day we were delayed getting back from a port excursion, and arrived back on the ship just as the doors were opening for our dinner seating. As much as we both like to follow the "no shorts" thing, I said, "Oh, let's just go to dinner, you won't be the only one in shorts" (I had capris on) He couldn't do it. He went to the room and changed into slacks.

 

[Jey12]

Question for the "significant others" on this thread - which would give you the bigger thrill? Being accompanied to dinner by a husband/boyfriend who is wearing jeans and t-shirt or one who is wearing a tux/suit. I know that the temptation is to say "I love them for who they are, not what they are wearing", but that's not what I'm asking.

As a SO I totally understand what you're asking. I was raised in a family where every man owned at least one suit, usually a couple in different colors. Imagine my frustration when DH and I almost had an argument because I insisted he at minimum wear a button down shirt and tie to his grandmother's funeral. I won that discussion BTW. On several occasions I have told him every man should own at least one suit, in the same respect I feel every woman should own at least one formal type of dress or semi formal or pantsuit. So when the father/daughter dance comes up at DD's dance studio for recital this year he starts pouting because the "costume" for the dads is a suit.

This is not going to be a popular opinion I'm sure, so first let me say this....on formal night if my tablemates or anyone is wearing a tank, cut off jean shorts and flip flops it won't impact my evening one way or another. I am not going to be upset in the slightest if someone knows the rules and intentionally does not follow them. I am there to enjoy a vacation and not enforce Disney policy. If Disney wants to pay me to do so I would be OK with that. So knowing this hopefully I won't offend too many. This is just how I was raised....When you attend a dinner with a dress code you dress as requested. For me it is not a matter of being forced to do something for the sake of making me do something, it is a matter of respect. Respect for yourself, your family and your hosts. In this case that is Disney. I realize I am paying to be there, but I am paying out of my own free will and I am a guest of theirs, therefore they are my hosts.

Of course on our next cruise I won't have to have a discussion with DH over getting a suit because he has to buy one for DD's dance recital. So finally after 10 years of marriage DH will have to cave and own a suit. Being a good DW I will only bring up I told him every man should own a suit a few times after he makes that purchase.

 

[Rogillio]

I guess I'm the exception to the rule. I so rarely have an occasion to wear my tux these days, that I look forward to pulling it out of the closet whenever possible. Judging by how few men were wearing tuxes on our last Formal Night, I realize I'm in the minority on this.

To me, formal night = tuxedo and semi-formal night (and Palo/Remy) = suit and tie, and I would feel uncomfortable dressing more casually than that. I understand that not every man owns their own tux and if I didn't, I would most likely just put on a black suit, white shirt and black tie combo, rather than pay money to rent someone else's clothes.

My personal philosophy is that I would rather be overdressed than underdressed - if you're underdressed, it appears as if you just don't care, and if you're overdressed, people will just assume that you have some place better to go afterwards. But once again, that's just me...

Question for the "significant others" on this thread - which would give you the bigger thrill? Being accompanied to dinner by a husband/boyfriend who is wearing jeans and t-shirt or one who is wearing a tux/suit. I know that the temptation is to say "I love them for who they are, not what they are wearing", but that's not what I'm asking.

My wife is a country farm girl and is most comfortable in jeans so I would much rather see her come to dinner in jeans and know she is happy....cause if mama ain't happy.....

 

[DeniseMarie526]

As a family that rarely has the occasion to get dressed up together. We are so looking forward to our formal night. I will not worry about what others are wearing. We will have our night and enjoy it.

 

[shmoogrrrl]

Does that make you Miss Moneypenny?

James Bond: Hmm, never seen you after hours, Moneypenny... lovely.
Miss Moneypenny: Thank you, James.
James Bond: Out on some kind of fashion assignment, dressing to kill?
Miss Moneypenny: I know you'll find this crushing, 007, but I don't sit at home every night praying for some international incident so I can run down here all dressed up to impress James Bond. I was on a date,
James Bond: Moneypenny, I'm devastated.

Haha! I guess it does.

 

[TinkGirl]

Does the 3day Dream have a semi formal night?

 

[PrincessShmoo]

Does the 3day dream have a semi formal night?

The 3 night (and 4 night, for that matter) have a Dress Up Optional night.

 

[Jiminy'sGirl]

I also like to dress up for dinner - one night of formal is perfect, cruise casual (a nice sundress, khakis and button down for men) is wonderful for the others. I feel it is part of the fun and the "specialness" of a cruise -- this isn't taking the family to Chili's on a Tuesday because I am too tired to cook... this is my vacation. All this is only an opinion, of course.

I also agree that there needs to be a shorts option for those times you just can't summon the energy to shower and shave and blowdry and put on uncomfortable undergarments. And that option should be just as tasty!

Cruise lines want to associate themselves with elegance, opulence and pampering. You lose that mood when you have a fancy, ostentatious dining room full of people in less-than ostentatious clothing. It is a slippery slope. We all love Disney BECAUSE they give us that pampered feeling... to stay separated from those "other" cruise lines, they need their dress code rules.

And we, of course, need a place to eat for that one night out of 4 or 5 or 7 that we are too sunburned and exhausted from a great port adventure to get "dressed up."

 

[mcd2745]

Cruise lines want to associate themselves with elegance, opulence and pampering. You lose that mood when you have a fancy, ostentatious dining room full of people in less-than ostentatious clothing. It is a slippery slope. We all love Disney BECAUSE they give us that pampered feeling... to stay separated from those "other" cruise lines, they need their dress code rules.

Maybe that's where I differ or where I'm going wrong. I don't think of those things when I think of cruising. I consider cruising the ultimate laid-back vacation (as opposed to, say, WDW which is usually "go, go, go"). And formal wear & "laid back" do not exactly go hand-in-hand.

 

[wilkeliza]

Maybe that's where I differ or where I'm going wrong. I don't think of those things when I think of cruising. I consider cruising the ultimate laid-back vacation (as opposed to, say, WDW which is usually "go, go, go"). And formal wear & "laid back" do not exactly go hand-in-hand.

Cruising originally was about elegance and service and also about transport. You typically got a ship if you need to go somewhere and cruising allowed you to do so in style. Now we have commercial vacation cruises. Some want relaxation when they vacation and others want what cruises use to offer which is elegance.

The one line that comes to mind with elegance is Seaborn cruises. My boyfriend and his family sail them often and well no formal wear means room service for you that night. Every night of their Mediterranean cruise required dress shirts and slacks for men dresses or dress shirt and slacks for women and children were not excluded. On formal night jacket and tie were required. Everyone including the 6 year old followed the rules. However the difference is this company is a luxury cruise liner and Disney is a family cruise line.

I don't care for dressing up and except for Pirate night I did dress up. I would have even figured something out for pirates night had I had enough time to change before the party.

 

[nzdisneymom]

I also agree that there needs to be a shorts option for those times you just can't summon the energy to shower and shave and blowdry and put on uncomfortable undergarments. And that option should be just as tasty!

One thing about the European cruises we've experienced on DCL is that on port days, the dining staff encourages you to "come as you are" to the dining rooms to eat rather than skipping dinner because you've just gotten back onboard and there's not much time to change. So if you've been in shorts and t-shirts in the port all day and get back onboard right around dinner time, they'd rather you just drop your stuff off in your cabin, wash your hands and face, and come have a dinner they have waiting for you than to not show up for dinner. Of course on sea-days, then you have plenty of time to get ready for dinner

 

[Rogillio]

Cruise lines want to associate themselves with elegance, opulence and pampering. You lose that mood when you have a fancy, ostentatious dining room full of people in less-than ostentatious clothing.

I think you 'loose the mood' when the wait staff parades thru the dining room carrying flags and singing "It's a small world after all" or when a fish starts talking and calling kids 'dude' at a table.

And therein lies the problem. Disney is shooting for a fun, family atmosphere not an ostentatious atmosphere. They want people to dress up if the want to but don't want to ruin someone's cruise by telling them "You can't come in here dressed like THAT you slobs! What are you a buch of rednecks or something!?"

Anyway, I think they've hit a good balance with their current approach. For the short cruises, they have 'optional dress up' and for the longer cruises they have one 'formal' night to provide cover for people who like to dress up for dinner but don't want to seem ostentatious.

 

[Jiminy'sGirl]

I think you 'loose the mood' when the wait staff parades thru the dining room carrying flags and singing "It's a small world after all" or when a fish starts talking and calling kids 'dude' at a table.

And therein lies the problem. Disney is shooting for a fun, family atmosphere not an ostentatious atmosphere. They want people to dress up if the want to but don't want to ruin someone's cruise by telling them "You can't come in here dressed like THAT you slobs! What are you a buch of rednecks or something!?"

Anyway, I think they've hit a good balance with their current approach. For the short cruises, they have 'optional dress up' and for the longer cruises they have one 'formal' night to provide cover for people who like to dress up for dinner but don't want to seem ostentatious.

I agree. Duuuuuude.

One thing about the European cruises we've experienced on DCL is that on port days, the dining staff encourages you to "come as you are" to the dining rooms to eat rather than skipping dinner because you've just gotten back onboard and there's not much time to change. So if you've been in shorts and t-shirts in the port all day and get back onboard right around dinner time, they'd rather you just drop your stuff off in your cabin, wash your hands and face, and come have a dinner they have waiting for you than to not show up for dinner. Of course on sea-days, then you have plenty of time to get ready for dinner

This is a great idea!!!

Maybe that's where I differ or where I'm going wrong. I don't think of those things when I think of cruising. I consider cruising the ultimate laid-back vacation (as opposed to, say, WDW which is usually "go, go, go"). And formal wear & "laid back" do not exactly go hand-in-hand.

True. NO one scoffs a shorts and tank tops a 'Ohana because people have been schlepping around a theme park for 12 hours in 90 degree temps. Cruises give you the time and stateroom-accesibilty to change. Theoretically. I guess in the end it doesn't bother me if people are in shorts at Lumiere's and why would it?

 

[Maddysdaddy]

My husband isn't one of them. He LOVES any excuse to wear his tux. It makes him feel like James Bond or something.

Ummm heck yeah.

Pretending to be James Bond, with our significant other in the role of Bond Girl (or guy, as the case may be), is preeeetty much the number one reason a guy puts on a tux.

Some guys may 'claim' that they do it just to look good, but I 100,000,000% guarantee you that every single guy who puts on a tux, looks at himself in the mirror in profile, puts his index fingers together to make his hands look look like a gun, and does the quick turn to face the mirror, all while humming the James Bond theme.