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[DizBelle]

Originally posted by SharonS
I experienced a terrible incident while in line for Space MOuntain. Some woman just was pushing her way through everyone saying 'excuse me, I have to get with my party'. When she tried to get by me, I had positioned myself in the middle of the lane and was holding on to the rail. She knocked my hand down and when I said something, she turned around and hit me in the face. Her party was way up ahead. When I reached the entrance to the ride, I told the CM what happened, and who had done it. They pulled her party and myself into a room. The security came, and she lied. The rest of her party stated how she would never do something like that....they weren't even in sight when the incident occurred. This woman had about 70 pounds on me, and my face was bruised. The security did nothing about it....instead I was made to feel that I did something wrong. In the end, they simply allowed both of us to get on the ride. These people learned that it is fine to bully people and Disney did nothing! At the very least, these people should not have been allowed to ride.

Ok, this post is lacking a little information. I don't think we can make judgements on either party without some more information.

- Was the person already standing in the queue with their hands on the rail or did they move into this position when the woman approached with the purpose of blocking her way?
- Did the woman actually ask to get by and was not granted passage first or did she just swat the hand and move past without making a polite request?
- We have no idea what this person said before they got hit in the face. It could have just been a retort about getting smacked in the hand (probably justified). It could also have been a verbal attack on the line pusher (probably extreme). We don't know.

Was the hit in the face a slap or a punch or what?

My opinion - enter the line with your party and stay together. If one or more of your party has to leave the line, they need to get back in at the end or just forego the ride and wait for their party at the exit. If you can't stay in line for the entire time, you need to accept that this is your situation and not make others suffer because of it.

All rides have very accurate "time to ride" times posted at the entrance. Make sure all diapers are changed, everyone has gone to the restroom, that you have a supply of napkins and wet wipes, and that you can settle into the 90 minute wait that you were informed about before you even entered the line. I don't think anyone who has been standing in line has any obligation to let anyone move in front of them*. I have no idea if you are telling the truth that your family is waiting up there. In my experience, you are most likely NOT telling the truth and are just trying to get ahead at my expense and at the expense of everyone else that is standing in line and actually STAYED in line.

Conducting yourself in this way is respectful to everyone else that is trying to experience some magic at WDW.


*The only obvious exception to this is emergency personnel and/or cast members trying to get ahead in the line for a purpose other than riding the ride.

 

[wdwdvcdad]

Originally posted by lfontaine

My opinion - enter the line with your party and stay together. If one or more of your party has to leave the line, they need to get back in at the end or just forego the ride and wait for their party at the exit. If you can't stay in line for the entire time, you need to accept that this is your situation and not make others suffer because of it.

All rides have very accurate "time to ride" times posted at the entrance. Make sure all diapers are changed, everyone has gone to the restroom, that you have a supply of napkins and wet wipes, and that you can settle into the 90 minute wait that you were informed about before you even entered the line. I don't think anyone who has been standing in line has any obligation to let anyone move in front of them*. I have no idea if you are telling the truth that your family is waiting up there. In my experience, you are most likely NOT telling the truth and are just trying to get ahead at my expense and at the expense of everyone else that is standing in line and actually STAYED in line.

Conducting yourself in this way is respectful to everyone else that is trying to experience some magic at WDW.


*The only obvious exception to this is emergency personnel and/or cast members trying to get ahead in the line for a purpose other than riding the ride.

I am sure that you are a fine, upstanding & wonderful individual, but that was one of the silliest posts I have ever seen on these boards (& we've all seen quite a few). If I am in que for an hour & my 2 year old needs a bathroom trip, (or if I do for that matter)the whole party gets out of line? ridiculous. Just show some understanding & let people through to their family.

It really isn't that difficult, & your wait time has not increased at all. jeez.....

 

[RescueRanger]

Originally posted by wdwdvcdad
I am sure that you are a fine, upstanding & wonderful individual, but that was one of the silliest posts I have ever seen on these boards (& we've all seen quite a few). If I am in que for an hour & my 2 year old needs a bathroom trip, (or if I do for that matter)the whole party gets out of line? ridiculous. Just show some understanding & let people through to their family.

It really isn't that difficult, & your wait time has not increased at all. jeez.....

I TOTALLY agree...

They need to relax and enjoy their vacation and not make a mountain out of a mole hill.

 

[DizBelle]

Originally posted by wdwdvcdad
I am sure that you are a fine, upstanding & wonderful individual, but that was one of the silliest posts I have ever seen on these boards (& we've all seen quite a few). If I am in que for an hour & my 2 year old needs a bathroom trip, (or if I do for that matter)the whole party gets out of line? ridiculous. Just show some understanding & let people through to their family.

It really isn't that difficult, & your wait time has not increased at all. jeez.....

I'm silly because I want people to show respect to each other and to teach those values to their children?!?!?!? I know, the view of respecting each other is in the minority in this world but it is still the way I want to live my life and be treated.

Like I said, I can't really know if you are truly trying to get to your family farther ahead in the line or if you are just trying to cut in line to minimize your wait time.

If it were just you and your child and you had to leave the line, would you insist to everyone in the line that you should get back to your original place in line even though there is no family there waiting for you?

 

[dansyr]

Just a question .....
don't they have signs up stating that if you leave the line you will be expected to return to the end of the line.
I'm pretty sure I read this somewhere.....probably while standing in line waiting my turn.
Also....I think people are more tolerant of of an adult an small child rejoining there family. Personally....if I get ahead of the person I am with while entering a queue, I let others pass by and wait for my companion to catch up.
I've also had people trying to push past me....not to re-join others just to get in front...and I would do the same thing....just kinda stand in the middle with my hands on both bars. No one really knows what happened...in the incident..because we weren't there....but if the other person used physical violence in anyway ...they were in the wrong. They were obviously already breaking the rules by trying to re-enter a line when it is clearly posted that that isn't allowed.

 

[wdwdvcdad]

Originally posted by lfontaine
I'm silly because I want people to show respect to each other and to teach those values to their children?!?!?!?

1st, I never said you were silly. I said that what you said was silly. We've all said/done silly things...this is one of those things. 2nd if you were showing respect & trying to teach values, you would respect that situations arise where people need to take care of things, & a civil person would be understanding. That is a value that would be a great lesson to a child.

Originally posted by lfontaine

I know, the view of respecting each other is in the minority in this world but it is still the way I want to live my life and be treated.

Well, you could start any time now. Your post showed no respect for the needs of others.

Originally posted by lfontaine
Like I said, I can't really know if you are truly trying to get to your family farther ahead in the line or if you are just trying to cut in line to minimize your wait time.

in the grand scheme of things, does it really matter to you so much as to make a scene? How respectful.

Originally posted by lfontaine
If it were just you and your child and you had to leave the line, would you insist to everyone in the line that you should get back to your original place in line even though there is no family there waiting for you?

of course not. you see, we wouldn't be catching back up to our family, then.

 

[Gabrielle]

Folks with small kids on obvious bathroon breaks - yes.

The elderly or disabled - yes.

Everyone else - no.

This should be a non-issue with Fast Pass.

 

[Disbug]

I have rarely had this happen at Disney World but, did find it a few times at Universal IOA! I was chaperoning my first high school end of year trip and we were in line for Spiderman with no Express Passes available. We were determined to ride for this one girl who doesn't do roller coasters and had waited patiently for everyone to ride ALL of the coasters! This we were doing for HER! So in the line I go with about half a dozen teenagers. We were in line for at least half an hour when about 20 (yes, I counted! LOL!) people started passing us to "join" their family which was just ahead of us. There was only a man and his wife. After about 5 people passed us, I put out both my arms and said "STOP"! I politely told the people ahead of us that they may go back to ride with their family but no one else was passing us. Well, the family turned around and said I don't know what you're talking about we've been here the whole time! I looked at the woman and smiled and said "All rightey then!" I turned around to the rest of my group and called them all up and told them that this man and woman had decided to join our group and didn't want to ride with the rest of their family so what the heck, I'm game! For the next 30 minutes I talked about my family, my church, the kids, the sports they were into, music, inquired about their family and church ... any detail I could think of to make conversation... never once taking the smile off my face or the twinkle out of my eye!

Every time the kids behind me tried to get past, I would smile and politely tell them they had to go back with "Grandma, because Mom and Dad don't want to ride with you... they want to ride with us!" They looked at me like I was crazy, but as I pointed out (continuously for 30 minutes) it was their CHOICE to ride with us. It made us feel like celebrities to be singled out for this honor. I DID go on! But I hoped somewhere the message got through to be polite and treat others as you wish to be treated. We made it through to the end of the ride and had a great time to boot!

 

[dansyr]

lol.....that is great !!!!!
I must agree with you I do find the rudeness more prevalant at IOA

 

[disneyeveryyear]

I can tell you that we were there the week before Easter. I had just done a potty break with both kids before getting in a 40 minute line for Goofy's Barnstormer.

20 minutes into the line, DD5, decides she needs to go to the bathroom. I inform her that she has just gone. "No, mom, the other kind." This child never does two things at one time in a bathroom.

I courteously walked back through the line leaving my DS holding our place. I informed everyone that we passed that we were taking a "Potty Break" and would return.

When we came back, everyone let us through without any grousing and DS was waiting for us.

Nobody said anything rude and I was very polite as we passed.

I didn't feel that I did anything wrong.

She pulled the same thing at MGM 2 days later. As we were standing in the line up area at Star Tours she once again needed to go. We spoke to a CM, who showed us how to get out of the ride and where to come back. As soon as we returned, they got us on the next available flight to Endor. Unfortunately it was the pilots first flight and things were a little rough. Oh well!

 

[zaxmom]

About taking potty breaks before every ride. First of all...Get real! No one in my family pees that much. Second, if you ever had a 3 year old, you know you can lead him to a toilet, but you can't make him pee. If someone in front of you gets out of line and returns, you are not losing anything. You were in line behind them anyways. Sure it is inconvenient for someone to squeeze past you, but it is really not going to affect your day.

I have been to IOA late spring and encountered the teenagers in masses. The groups of girls were so well behaved. I yelled at one boy for spitting on people below him in line. I almost backhanded HIM.

 

[WDSearcher]

Originally posted by wdwdvcdad
in the grand scheme of things, does it really matter to you so much as to make a scene?

Thank you for that. While I agree that it can be frustrating and angering to have someone push past you in line when you've been waiting there for an hour, it's really not something worth ruining your whole day -- or vacation -- over. And, in the long run, the rude person will suffer more. I'm not saying that you should let people walk all over you, but if someone is determined to get in front of you -- whether it's to join the rest of their party or just to be snotty -- they're going to do it. It's up to you to control how YOU feel about it.

Whenever I meet someone really rude or pushy, I always remember the guy who tailgated me for 10 miles on the highway and then, when he was finally able to pass me, flipped me the finger and sped past. (Mind you, I was going 70 in a 55 mph zone, keeping pace with all the cars around me, when he tailgated and expended so much energy insulting me and tossing rude gestures. He actually pulled even with me, got a good look, flipped me the finger, laughed and sped off.) Imagine my surprise -- and his -- when he walked into an interview a half-hour later where I was sitting on the interview panel. I thought the guy was going to faint, he turned so white so quickly. As the head of the panel introduced him around to us, I stood and said, "Oh ... we met this morning on the interstate." The panel leader asked me what happened, I told him, he turned to the interview candidate and said, "Is that accurate?" and the guy sheepishly nodded. The panel leader said, "Thank you ... we won't need to talk to you today," and ushered him out. The guy was nearly in tears.

So ... I always figure "What goes around, comes around." Generally not that quickly, of course, but eventually!

 

[mommystieg]

Originally posted by WDSearcher
Whenever I meet someone really rude or pushy, I always remember the guy who tailgated me for 10 miles on the highway and then, when he was finally able to pass me, flipped me the finger and sped past. (Mind you, I was going 70 in a 55 mph zone, keeping pace with all the cars around me, when he tailgated and expended so much energy insulting me and tossing rude gestures. He actually pulled even with me, got a good look, flipped me the finger, laughed and sped off.) Imagine my surprise -- and his -- when he walked into an interview a half-hour later where I was sitting on the interview panel. I thought the guy was going to faint, he turned so white so quickly. As the head of the panel introduced him around to us, I stood and said, "Oh ... we met this morning on the interstate." The panel leader asked me what happened, I told him, he turned to the interview candidate and said, "Is that accurate?" and the guy sheepishly nodded. The panel leader said, "Thank you ... we won't need to talk to you today," and ushered him out. The guy was nearly in tears.

So ... I always figure "What goes around, comes around." Generally not that quickly, of course, but eventually!

What a great story!!

 

[Disney Debbie]

Originally posted by WDSearcher


Whenever I meet someone really rude or pushy, I always remember the guy who tailgated me for 10 miles on the highway and then, when he was finally able to pass me, flipped me the finger and sped past. (Mind you, I was going 70 in a 55 mph zone, keeping pace with all the cars around me, when he tailgated and expended so much energy insulting me and tossing rude gestures. He actually pulled even with me, got a good look, flipped me the finger, laughed and sped off.) Imagine my surprise -- and his -- when he walked into an interview a half-hour later where I was sitting on the interview panel. I thought the guy was going to faint, he turned so white so quickly. As the head of the panel introduced him around to us, I stood and said, "Oh ... we met this morning on the interstate." The panel leader asked me what happened, I told him, he turned to the interview candidate and said, "Is that accurate?" and the guy sheepishly nodded. The panel leader said, "Thank you ... we won't need to talk to you today," and ushered him out. The guy was nearly in tears.

So ... I always figure "What goes around, comes around." Generally not that quickly, of course, but eventually!

Oh wow! I hope that's true - that's priceless. That's better then if you'd seen him pulled over a few miles down the road - which I did get to see once in that same situation. I had a similar situation when I happened to be at the receptionist desk writing her a note at lunch time. A woman came in for a job interview and was very condescending and rude to me thinking I was the receptionist. I told her to wait up front and someone would be up to get her shortly. I then went back to my office, had someone bring her in my office and the look on her face was PRICELESS. I looked at her resume, said her name out loud and told her I think we knew enough to make a hiring decision and had her escorted back out.

 

[tinawv]

I have no problem whatsoever with letting family members through with young ones. I automatically assume that they probably had to go to the bathroom. What bothers me is when you have large groups passing you to join their families. In these situations I am assuming that their family held spots for them so that they could ride another ride or participate in other activities. Under these circumstances I do not think it is fair. They should wait just like everyone else. Just my 10 cents worth. LOL

 

[Brier Rose]

We had a go round with fast pass hostility last week!

We were headed to dinner, and stopped to get a FP for Jungle Cruise. This was at 5:00pm, still lots of FP's available, but people standing in a hour+ line!

Anyway, it worked out perfectly for us to go have dinner, and then return to use our FP. When we got there, there was nobody in the FP line, but the standby line was still an hour+ long!

So on we go on our merry way through
the FP line when this guy starts yelling at us....."HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR RIDE!! YOU'LL BE GETTING OFF BEFORE WE EVER GET ON,BUT HOPE YOU ENJOY YOURSELF"!!

I looked at DH and said, "Is he serious"? DH was a little annoyed, but we just brushed it off, thinking (hoping) he was just joking.

Well, in less than 2 min. we were loaded on the boat ready to pull off when I look up, and guess who???

The guy starts yelling again, pointing, and getting other people in line to look at us!

Oh well, at least he was right! We were LOOOOONG gone before he ever got on a boat!

Does anyone know WHY people wait in such long lines when there are FP's available?

We had 2 extra FP's for Space Mt.,(DS decided not to ride at last min.), and the standby line was like 80min.
DH went to find another Dad with a small child that still had a long wait ahead to give them the extra fp's.
He was so grateful, especialy after DH explained that he did not have to by them,and he could gert many more at no charge for the rest of his trip.
They had been standing in line the whole day, because they thought FP's costed extra!

 

[Doug123]

Originally posted by SharonS
I experienced a terrible incident while in line for Space MOuntain. Some woman just was pushing her way through everyone saying 'excuse me, I have to get with my party'. When she tried to get by me, I had positioned myself in the middle of the lane and was holding on to the rail. She knocked my hand down and when I said something, she turned around and hit me in the face. Her party was way up ahead. When I reached the entrance to the ride, I told the CM what happened, and who had done it. They pulled her party and myself into a room. The security came, and she lied. The rest of her party stated how she would never do something like that....they weren't even in sight when the incident occurred. This woman had about 70 pounds on me, and my face was bruised. The security did nothing about it....instead I was made to feel that I did something wrong. In the end, they simply allowed both of us to get on the ride. These people learned that it is fine to bully people and Disney did nothing! At the very least, these people should not have been allowed to ride.

One way these people learn is when you call the police. You were assaulted.

 

[DizBelle]

Originally posted by tinawv
I have no problem whatsoever with letting family members through with young ones. I automatically assume that they probably had to go to the bathroom. What bothers me is when you have large groups passing you to join their families. In these situations I am assuming that their family held spots for them so that they could ride another ride or participate in other activities. Under these circumstances I do not think it is fair. They should wait just like everyone else. Just my 10 cents worth. LOL

How large is too large?

 

[WDSearcher]

Originally posted by Disney Debbie
Oh wow! I hope that's true - that's priceless.

Yup ... it's true. Happened about four years ago. I love your story too, though. Perfect, poetic justice!

 

[Disney Debbie]

LOL - Well that's just perfect then!

BTW - After my incident I told our receptionist I want to know whenever anyone comes in for an interview or to do business with us that is rude to her. I don't want someone like that working here!