shocking

[wdwdvcdad]

Originally posted by Disney Debbie
It does USUALLY take a bit of provocation. But sometimes people just act like jerks for no reason. I think your post demonstrates that fact quite well.

Ouch, I'm wounded...lets get this straight, a woman tries to get to her family...another woman grabs the rail and BLOCKS HER FROM DOING SO... when the person responds (we do not know the degree to which the OP prevented her) she is immediately at fault? If someone prevented me from being with my family, They would regret it as well. Before you mouth of, you might want to think. Your post was as rude as the OP's actions.

 

[WillAndFinn'sMom]

I can see both sides. The woman could have been a bit mentally unstable, mentally retarded, had some anxiety about being away from her family, foreign, etc. It would have been better to just let her go and maybe tell a CM.

 

[wdwdvcdad]

exactly! What is to be gained by preventing the woman from getting to her family. IMO the OP was looking for a conflict, or she NEVER would have attempted to prevent this woman from getting to her family. She had no idea why they were not originally together. There could be no positive result from her actions. They were only meant to provoke a conflict...and she succeeded

 

[zaxmom]

I agree, although she should have never been physically touched. We all have to use the restroom or whatever. There is no reason not to let someone join their party. It is just an amusement park. On the other hand, when one person is in line and 5 others come up to join them, that is unreasonable.

 

[Michelina]

There is never a reason to get physically violent with someone unless you are defending yourself or your family. It does seem strange that the OP tried to stop this woman from getting to her family but she didn't deserve to be hit.

 

[wdwdvcdad]

Originally posted by Michelina
There is never a reason to get physically violent with someone unless you are defending yourself .

my guess is that she thought she was.

 

[w8ting4pooh]

To the point regarding not letting someone rejoin their party, this happened to me at Epcot last summer. The park had just opened. We ran to TTrack. DH and the kids went into the cue. I stopped to park the stroller. In the mean time, people continued to fill the cue. I had to FIGHT my way thru to rejoin my husband. Literally! It wasn't like I had spent 10 minutes just idling along. I was about 90 seconds behind them!!I was stating the whole way that I just needed to join my family and some of the people were quite hostile.

At one point, I had to ask someone 3 times to please let me through. They really did not want to move out of the way. It wasn't like I was preventing them from getting on any later. The cars hold 6 and I was joining a party of 5. Was I in the wrong?

 

[soupy11]

Nope, you used your words and avoided a good ole smackdown.

 

[matty624]

Originally posted by w8ting4pooh
To the point regarding not letting someone rejoin their party, this happened to me at Epcot last summer. The park had just opened. We ran to TTrack. DH and the kids went into the cue. I stopped to park the stroller. In the mean time, people continued to fill the cue. I had to FIGHT my way thru to rejoin my husband. Literally! It wasn't like I had spent 10 minutes just idling along. I was about 90 seconds behind them!!I was stating the whole way that I just needed to join my family and some of the people were quite hostile.

At one point, I had to ask someone 3 times to please let me through. They really did not want to move out of the way. It wasn't like I was preventing them from getting on any later. The cars hold 6 and I was joining a party of 5. Was I in the wrong?

Why not wait for your family and walk in together? We're a family of 4, ds and dd are still only 5 and 4 respectively. I wouldn't dream of joining a line whilst dw parked strollers or whatever, and then expect her to force her way past all those inconsiderate people who had the cheek to join the line in front of her. And as for the person who wouldn't get out of your way, how are they to know you're joining a group of 5 etc. Line cutting upsets me alot, although I wouldn't resort to violence... Usually.
Ian

 

[GEM]

Originally posted by w8ting4pooh
To the point regarding not letting someone rejoin their party, this happened to me at Epcot last summer. The park had just opened. We ran to TTrack. DH and the kids went into the cue. I stopped to park the stroller. In the mean time, people continued to fill the cue. I had to FIGHT my way thru to rejoin my husband. Literally! It wasn't like I had spent 10 minutes just idling along. I was about 90 seconds behind them!!I was stating the whole way that I just needed to join my family and some of the people were quite hostile.

At one point, I had to ask someone 3 times to please let me through. They really did not want to move out of the way. It wasn't like I was preventing them from getting on any later. The cars hold 6 and I was joining a party of 5. Was I in the wrong?

Honestly, yes, I think you were. If your family all wanted to be together, then your DH and the kids should have waited for you before they got in line. I wouldn't have stopped you from getting through or said anything to you, but I would have thought it was pretty rude of you.

 

[Tinkbell]

I think the whole party should wait and line up together. However, sometimes it doesn't happen like that. I would never block another person from rejoining her party. It was only ONE person. You don't know the circumstances behind it. Also, I would not let myself get so enraged like that on vacation. I would not put my energy into being a line blockcade.

 

[DisKim]

I saw this thread and just had to add this story. A good friend of mine went to Disney last Easter and saw two horrible things. First, when she was on line for Peter Pan, the child in front of her told her mother she had to go to the bathroom. To avoid leaving the line, the mother had her urinate into a water bottle right in front of my friend's DS2. Then, she went over to ride IASW and had another incident occur right in front of her. A child had feces leaking out of his diaper and told his mother. The mother refused to leave the line to clean him up. She told him to just wait until after the ride.

 

[Mouse Man]

Originally posted by SharonS
These people learned that it is fine to bully people and Disney did nothing! At the very least, these people should not have been allowed to ride.

Actually, after reading about this incident, it sounds like you were doing the bullying first. You are not the CM. You have no business keeping people from joining their family members. I can understand that you were frustrated, but maybe you went a little too far.

I actually agreee that all members should enter the line together. If my wife has to leave a line to take one of the kids to the restroom, I get to the front and let other people in line pass me up and wait for them. I wouldn't want anyone blocking my wife. It's safer this way.

 

[WDWguru]

Originally posted by momshark
I can't even tell you how much my stomach is turning from hearing reading about ALL of these sooo UNDisney behaviors. I am taking my 6yo DS in June for his first time and am really scared about what he may be exposed to.

There's no reason to be scared. Just anticipate that you may witness some of the behavior described and be prepared. Use it as a learning opportunity for your DS. What better place to teach him about courtesy, respect and how to deal gracefully with crowds and strangers?

I wish more people would use it as a learning opportunity and not an excuse to get away with acting rude themselves. I honestly think some people who would never consider things like line cutting will try it out if they see someone else do it and get away with it.

 

[wdwdvcdad]

Originally posted by w8ting4pooh
To the point regarding not letting someone rejoin their party, this happened to me at Epcot last summer. The park had just opened. We ran to TTrack. DH and the kids went into the cue. I stopped to park the stroller. In the mean time, people continued to fill the cue. I had to FIGHT my way thru to rejoin my husband. Literally! It wasn't like I had spent 10 minutes just idling along. I was about 90 seconds behind them!!I was stating the whole way that I just needed to join my family and some of the people were quite hostile.

At one point, I had to ask someone 3 times to please let me through. They really did not want to move out of the way. It wasn't like I was preventing them from getting on any later. The cars hold 6 and I was joining a party of 5. Was I in the wrong?

not at all.

 

[zaxmom]

It is amazing how many people can get in between you and your party when getting in a line. Whether you all walk up together or not. Usually it is excited kids running up to get there first. I don't know how many times we thought we were getting there at the same time or maybe I remembered to put my camera in the stroller and boom there are a dozen kids in a tour group in between me and my family. It is just silly not to let people join their party. I can see why a mom would make a kid stay in a dirty diaper, she was afraid someone would try to block her from rejoining her family.

The same people who think the whole family should leave the line to take a child to the bathroom would think people were not being very magical with their other two kids crying "but I wanted to ride Peter Pan! WAH!".

I only see a problem when it is a group, say more than just a parent and a child, are trying to get with others ahead. Other than that it is not cutting, and it is not rude, it is just life and things that come up. Almost always it is a trip to the bathroom. I have had to leave to get a tissue. I could have let my kids wipe their hands on the handrail.

 

[momshark]

Thank you all for your replies and support. I have come away from this post having learned a few things:
1. About 99% of people are friendly, courteous and understanding.
2. I will always be courteous to others, because I don't know their situation. They may have a mental instability, trying to go to/get back from the bathroom, or some other personal issue.
3. I wil not let anyone or anything ruin my time in the happiest place on earth.
4. I will even save another person's place in line if their child needs to use the restroom, etc... because I would rather have them go there than on the ride.
5. I will ask my own children if they need to use the restroom every time we pass one and before we get in line for a ride, hoping to avoid any potty problems.
6. I will report anything that is obviously very UnDisney to the nearest CM. Sounds like I won't need to though, but just in case...
Again, thanks. I am psyched to come back in .... (see below)

 

[Alexandra]

O.k. after reading all these posts here are my thoughts. I don't think it was a good idea to try to block that person from getting to their party, that was an obviously confraontation move, I do not think in any circumstances that the person should have hit someone in the face either. I have become use to people joining their group and as long as it's not say for 4 or more people it's o.k. like someone else said maybe a parent needs to take their child to the bathroom and the other parent or persons are still in line. I truly think this is unavoidable. Think about it, would you truly want to pull your whole party out of line everytime someone needs to go to the bathroom you'd never get to ride anything. I'm more upset by foul language and people getting physical like pushing or people who get so upset or worked up by something that they start getting verbally or physically abusive thats when things can get dangerous for many. Like someone said you're supposed to be on vacation is it worth it to let everything get you worked up and ruin your good mood and magic disney spirit, not if I can help it.
Stay safe and enjoy those you are with!
Alexandra

 

[heart]

Momshark--

Great rules!

They should be posted someplace--I know I'll try to keep them in mind, as I've seen myself on both sides of what's becoming a debate--I've exited and rejoined a line where my family was waiting (luckily, it was at Peter Pan where it winds around near the restrooms, and I could just duck out and back, thus not risking bodily harm by having to "excuse me" past an angry mob), and I've fumed and cost myself moments of happiness (my discontent certainly didn't affact the line-jumpers!) at clear line jumpers.

Thanks!

 

[DizBelle]

Originally posted by w8ting4pooh
To the point regarding not letting someone rejoin their party, this happened to me at Epcot last summer. The park had just opened. We ran to TTrack. DH and the kids went into the cue. I stopped to park the stroller. In the mean time, people continued to fill the cue. I had to FIGHT my way thru to rejoin my husband. Literally! It wasn't like I had spent 10 minutes just idling along. I was about 90 seconds behind them!!I was stating the whole way that I just needed to join my family and some of the people were quite hostile.

At one point, I had to ask someone 3 times to please let me through. They really did not want to move out of the way. It wasn't like I was preventing them from getting on any later. The cars hold 6 and I was joining a party of 5. Was I in the wrong?

IMO - the entire party should enter the line at the same time. Your family should have waited until the stroller was parked before entering the line at all.

It is difficult to tell the difference between someone trying to reach their family farther ahead in the line and someone just trying to cut in line.